"De har lekt tillsammans hela dagen."
Translation:They have been playing together all day.
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Maybe it´s a product of the accent that I learned, but should´t "de" be pronounced as "dom" rather than "det?"
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Almost everybody in Sweden. In Finland many Swedish-speaking says [di] and [dem], however, you can hear [dom] as well, especially on Aland islands
I read that traditionally åländska is classified as svealändska, not finlandssvenska, though it's picked up traits of finlandssvenska due to its political situation.
For the first time, it's getting tricky for a French learning in English :/
Does anyone knows what would be the present perfect in French ?
That seems about right ! Tack !
It the sentence "a past event that has present consequence" in the tips & notes that threw me out. It's the definition of "imparfait" in french (Ils jouaient ensemble) and not passé-composé (ils ont joué). But the latter must be the right one still :)
I take it this cannot be translated "they played" because they are still playing. That's what the English present perfect continuous used here would mean. "They have played together all day" would mean they may have stopped. English has three ways of denoting this past activity, but Swedish only two, so how do they overlap?
We don't have a continuous form so our present perfect covers both. You can translate the sentence either as they have been playing or as they have played, but not as they played because that would be de lekte. In De har lekt tillsammans hela dagen they may have stopped or they may still be playing, you can't tell.
In the same way, de lekte can be either 'they played' or 'they were playing'. And de hade lekt can be either 'they had played' or 'they had been playing'. So it's just that we don't really have a separate continuous form.
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Hela is not just plural, it is a pronoun and has just one form hela. Ex. Hon stannade inne och läste hela dagen.
Then there is also an adjective hel, helt, hela that you probably thought. Ex. Det tog en hel dag att resa till Karibien.
Ah ha, okay. I totally missed the fact that it is a pronoun as well. Thanks!
Is "hela" really a pronoun? I find no source to verify that. It's used as an adjective here, albeit a special one that doesn't take den/det/de.
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Let's take another example: hela (den) långa dagen. 1) Because of the pronoun hela, the adjective lång is conjugated långa. It is not common that one adjective is conjugated according to another adjective, but according to a pronoun, e.g. samma fina exempel. 2) I also think that the facultative pronoun den would take another place if hela wasn't a pronoun. You can't often see a combination adjective + pronoun + adjective + noun, can you?
At least in Swedish grammar books published in Finland, hela is always categorized as a pronoun. It would be very interesting to know what Svenska akademiens grammatik thinks of hela.
Alright. I'm not saying you're wrong, I'm just a bit surprised. :) In Svenska Akademiens Ordlista (link below), "hela" is an adjective or an adverb as far as I can see. http://www.svenskaakademien.se/svenska-spraket/svenska-akademiens-ordlista-saol/saol-13-pa-natet/sok-i-ordlistan
Hela can also be translated as the entire or whole sometimes. in any case the sentence clearly states that the playing has finished so my translation "played the entire day is correct. Have been playing is a progressive form and therefore indicates that they are still playing.
"Have been playing" doesn't have to mean they still are playing, though it's possible that they are. "They have played the whole day" is also correct.
But "they played the whole day" is wrong. That's "de spelade hela dagen" in Swedish.
An other point I used spelat on purpose because it is an other translation of played and you should have accepted it
They should accept "spelat". Maybe there was something else, like you forgot "har"?