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- "De äter sköldpaddor."
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Turtle soup used to be a very expensive delicacy (too expensive for most Swedish people in those days), but since the turtle population declined and they became protected, they are no longer used in cooking - at least not in Sweden.
People eat turtle in the southern states. Im not to sure about scandinavia though
in the southern states of the USA. This is the internet and other countries also have southern states.
Please be cautious and conservative on your wording. Over-generalisation is rather dangerous.
How is "sköldpaddor" pronounced? My ears are trying to convince me it starts with a "h" sound.
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The TTS sounds right on this word. It's not an h sound, but it's a special sound that might take you a while to get used to. Read more here https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sj-sound
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Close, I think. Educated speakers of British English used to pronounce many words that started wh- as hw-. My father certainly did so, and you can hear it in old films from the thirties, forties and fifties. "Just hwat do you think you're doing, old boy?". Just purse your lips and make a soundless whistle, and you have it..
It's still present in dialects in a lot of places, including in the US
Thank you. I think it is just a sound I'm not used to hearing and definitely doesn't sound like an English "sk" which confused me. Hopefully with time, I'll get used to it.
Yeah, there are some dialects of Swedish where it is pronounced as an "sh" sound. I've heard it pronounced that way on a Linköping radio station.
This pronunciation, though, sounds to me like more of an English "wh" sound, but pronounced further back in the mouth.
I first noticed this pronunciation while watching some Swedish television shows, such as "Bron" and "Wallander" (Swedish version)
Words like "själv" sounded more like "whelv"
In Arabic we have the "sk" sound, when we use it in English (in names) we type it as "kh"
AmbassadorTigger you are right the Swedish "ɧ" is just a little bit less emphatic than the Arabic one, but the difference is slightly noticeable
Some speakers might realise it that way, but from what i understand that's not the main pronunciation. It is similar, though.
I don't think the difference is "slightly noticeable." In Arabic and Hebrew, the kh is pronounced in the velum (k position) of the mouth, while sj is pronounced with the post-alveolar (sh position) and the labium (lips).
The closest approximation I can think of for this sound is blowing on your hands when you want to warm them up.
The sk makes that sound when followed by ä, e, i, ö, y. The other vowels make a harder, English-style 'sk' sound.
When you're not sure about TTS you can check the word on forvo: http://www.forvo.com/search/sk%C3%B6ldpadda/
Katrin Berndt is a swedish youtuber and in this video she (in english) talks about how to pronounce certain words, it really helped me! https://youtu.be/_vjUSm9GUu8
Hello, am I right that ''de'' is pronounced as ''dom''? How is that possible? Thank you!
Anyone ever see "Babette's Feast"? It's in Dutch, Swedish and French, and they have sköldpaddsoppa. I paused the movie and shouted "I know what that means!"
In my country, turtle is considered a meal. It is often made into a soup.
The turtle egg is often consumed also. It is said to be healthier than chicken eggs
Is the "De" pronounciation on here correct?
If not how is it pronounced?
Cant get my head around it
I quote: "...The reason that the giant tortoise wasn’t properly classified by scientists for so long appears to be quite simple: they were so delicious that no specimens ever made it back to Europe without being eaten on the voyage..."
this is just a general question: do all the people doing the same course get the same question(s) in the same order?
The way I usually answer the questions I read it first but I didn't believe myself when I saw "They eat turtles".
1st: eeewwwww and 2nd: if you were to put 'they eat turtle' as in they've already had some, instead of "they eat turtleS" as in they've had more than one, would it be considered a right answer?
Am I the only one who is waiting for a VSCO girl or some Peta vegan to comment on this?
Couldn't "they are eating turtle" count? I mean Im not saying americans eat turtles, but it seems to me that this should count.
For expressing that they're eating turtle in general, both Swedish and English would use the indefinite singular without indefinite article. So no.
Not really - sköldpaddor is definitely plural, and it's good to get into good habits of being really precise in your translations to avoid ambiguity!
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My confusion is plurals with or without "the" as in they eat turtles as opposed to the turtles. How do you know?
In Swedish, definite articles are expressed as a suffix (in this case, -na), so turtles is just sköldpaddor, while the turtles is sköldpaddorna.
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No, it's a [ɧ] sound. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sj-sound There are some great videos about it by course contributor Blehg that you can find here: https://www.duolingo.com/comment/6502614
I got the question wrong since I get muddled up with De and Det, which is which?
dom is a colloquial spelling, but we accept that too.
However, please note that the "type what you hear" exercises have a bug where it'll only accept de and not dom. It's been reported to the developers but we have no idea when it'll be fixed. It's been like that forever.
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About the "type what you hear" excercises: I think it is correct that Duo only accepts "de". My goal is to learn proper Swedish, not Swedish in colloquial spelling.
There are degrees of colloquial spelling, though. I'm fairly sure dom will become the normal spelling during my lifetime - it's not exactly teen text slang.
How do you know whether the plural of a given noun is going to end in -er, -ar or -or?
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En-words ending on -a get -or in the plural, and -e becomes -ar. You can find more explanation about the plural forms in the Tips and Notes of chapter "Plurals" (website).
