tid = time
Think of the New York Times as they are a big newspaper :)
"TID(n)INGs of the day can be read in the newspaper!"
Yep; that'll work nicely. Thanks! (How are you level 10 in Swedish already? Were you one of the contributors, or just been doing this continuously for like the last 24 hours or however long it's been open?)
Or, since you're also learning German and probably already learned the German word for newspaper (die Zeitung): It's the same pattern in both languages. "Newspaper" = [word for time] + [suffix]. [Tid-][-ning], [Zeit-][-ung].
Cool; thanks! I wouldn't have made that connection otherwise, not having gotten to the point of learning that "zeit" meant "time".
Grammatical gender has often no correlation with biological gender, if any.
The only answer I can think of is because it changes to "tidningar" in plural (and ett words usually don't change between singular and plural).
Ahh, that makes sense. So are you using this course to work on English then (not that you seem to need it) or just trying it out or what?
It has a grammatical gender, just like every Swedish word does. It has to remembered and practiced for each word.
This probably wouldn't help everybody, but I remembered it through the English word "tiding", which is arhaic for news and there probably is a historical connection between the words. It also helps that I am a Lord of the Rings fan and Gandalf says he brings tidings to Denethor in the Return of the King film :)
I thought Ett was used for neutral objects instead of En (for gender thingies)?
It is, but the grammatical gender doesn't refer to the natural gender. There used to be three (sometimes pretty random) grammatical genders, masculine, feminine and neuter (pretty much like in German, where newspapers are feminine, newspaper articles masculine and magazines neuter). However in Swedish, masculine and feminine were merged into a common gender, so today there's only the common ("en") and the neuter gender ("ett") left.
Unfortunetaly, you can't tell which word has which grammatical gender. You have to learn the gender with every noun. Inanimate objects can be common gender (like "tidning"), living creatues can be neuter gender (like "djur") - and vice versa.
/Native speakers, feel free to correct me if I'm wrong!
This is already getting a bit confusing for me. I've read that 'de' is actually 'dom' and 'tidning' is actually pronounced without the D. So are the pronunciations duolingo is giving wrong? Like, if I go to Sweden am I gonna sound stupid for pronouncing it 'de' instead of 'dom'?
Pronouncing everything, even in words where Swedes commonly drop consonants when speaking, is never wrong. If ever in doubt, pronounce everything. Swedes will understand you just fine and won't think you sound stupid - if we react at all we'll just think you're enunciating clearly.
De/dem being pronounced as "dom" is universal so you probably should just learn it, but if you get it wrong and pronounce them as they're written you'll still be perfectly intelligible so don't worry too much.
Of all the words that are introduced fairly early in Duolingo courses, "newspaper" seems to be the one with the most variation. I've encountered it in German, Dutch, French, Danish and Swedish and they're all quite different.
Yes, most likely the same word, as I think the Swedish newspapers became popular after the German bookpressing machine was introduced in Sweden.
There is an old Swedish word "tidener" meaning news, and I think that's the word related to "tidings" - but it's possible that this old Swedish word played a part in making the word "tidning" popular ("nyheter" is the modern Swedish word for news, and there are a lot of Swedish newspapers having "nyheter" in their names today).
tidender, with another d, but yes - that and tidning are both derived in similar ways from tid. It's a little unclear whether the English "tiding" is a direct cognate or whether it developed separately, but either way they definitely came about with similar meanings in the same manner. :)
Hey i am living in Sweden and I asked my coleagues what is the difference between tidning and nyheter and they said, the former is for all kind of paper (material wise) and nyheter is newspaper only. A tidning actually is more frequent used in the context of a magazine while nyheter is the correct one. Well now I'm a little confused
Nyheter means news, and we would not refer to a newspaper as nyheter. We do refer to TV news as "nyheterna", just as you would in English. You could say that you're "reading the news" ("läser nyheterna") if you're reading a newspaper, though that would refer to the news printed in the paper, rather than the newspaper itself.
Tidning can mean newspaper, magazine or comic book. If you want to specify the kind, you can prefix it to specify, for example:
Kvällstidning - Evening paper
Morgontidning - Morning paper
Serietidning - Comic book
Basically laziness – it's easier to say the word without the d. It isn't wrong to pronounce the d in tidning, we do when we try to speak extra clearly.