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FYI: About gloves in "Clothes" skill

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The Swedish words for glove/gloves are handske/handskar. Unfortunately they are not correctly pronounced. The voice is pronouncing "sk" like "sk" in "sked" (spoon) or "skj" in "skjorta" (shirt), if you are familiar with those words.

Anyway, it should be "s" + "k" as in "scarface".

The bug is reported and I hope it can be fixed :).

3 years ago

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Handske, along with about 100 other words, has been disabled. However, that only means that you won't receive any hearing exercises involving the word. We can unfortunately not disable it completely. We know about these problems and the only thing we can do is to replace the TTS-system.

Handske is terrible, but wait until you reach "racket"! I've had nightmares about that pronunciation!

3 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/davost
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Have you reported these 100 words to the TTS vendor? Maybe they can do something about it for the whole system.

3 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/SDPhil
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For the words that you have disabled, can you provide a list so learners can go on Forvo to hear the correct pronunciation? :) (BTW, thank you for the course. Jag älskar svenska.)

3 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/HelenCarlsson
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It is rakett, isn't it :)? I keep reporting pronounciation bugs, do you want me to? If you already know them all, I'll stop :).

It is not always that bad. I just did the five lessons of the "Verbs: Present" skill and The Voice was in great shape.

3 years ago

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Well, we do know all the pronunciation errors (I went through every single sentence and disabled bad ones before the release), but it is good to know where we have issues. It is just so frustrating, because (a) we cannot really do anything about it, more than noting it & (b) all the reports about the bad TTS really mess with our metrics, which in turn delays the app release...

Racket should be pronounced as it is written but the TTS says "Rejschet". No idea why!

3 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/HelenCarlsson
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Thanks! I'll stop reporting voice errors from now on. If something sounds really crazy, I might add a comment in the "Discuss sentence" field.

3 years ago

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Thanks :)

3 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/landsend
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Oh, TTS fixes, doesn't seem to likely...

3 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Anders91
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We are looking to replace the current TTS because of the large amount of words it cannot pronounce properly.

3 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/HelenCarlsson
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That sounds great! I have heard really odd pronounciations in the English course as well, so I know that it is a common problem.

The fact that the voice pronounces "tycka om" (like) as "tycka om" (think of) is also rather annoying.

3 years ago

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YES! I spent ages drilling that into my brain when I was doing SFI and the voice is making me unlearn that carefully acquired skill :-(

3 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/landsend
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Great!

3 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/RikSha
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I tried 'handske' with Ivona and it sounded correct. But apparently the course is not using Ivona (like the Danish course)?

3 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Anrui
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We have tried Ivona, but it has other flaws. It may get handske right, but there a few more words...

3 years ago

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Well, the question is, does Ivona make errors as frequently as the current TTS? Not just by sheer amount of words, but also by how frequently those words will be encountered. After all, the current TTS pronounces "de" wrong, and that is a word one is bound to hear over and over again. If Ivona makes errors on very specific words that are not all that common, that would probably be quite an acceptable trade off.

3 years ago

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The problem is that it is extremely difficult to compare them in a fair way. We have tried to use common sentences and compare them, but like I said, our assessment was that it wasn't any better. We are of course looking into this!

3 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/RikSha
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Ok then, I will stop listening to the audios. Is there any site where I could check the pronunciation in IPA? I thought I had found a good site babl.la, but when I entered 'handske' it sounded like 'kanske' starting with an 'h'.

3 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/erikblomqvist
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I cannot stop recommending the site forvo.com. It's not based on TTS, but Swedish is one of the biggest languages there and you'll get recordings from native Swedes, which would really help you out when there's doubt.

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https://www.duolingo.com/RikSha
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I agree, it's really good. I use it a lot with Danish words, if for some reason DDO doesn't have a sound file for the word I'm checking. Which is often the case when I'm in doubt with inflected forms.

3 years ago

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Well, you can trust the voice on hearing exercises. We recommend the Swedish voices Erik, Emil and Elin on Acapela http://www.acapela-group.com/?lang=sv

3 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/RikSha
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Ok, tack

3 years ago