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My Spanish learning is not fun anymore

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I am half way through my tree and I lost a lot of motivation. I'm finding Spanish increasingly difficult and keep forgetting important verbs and other words I learned in previous sessions... I feel the whole process has somehow become rigid. I started using other programmes to improve my listening skills, just like "lanugagetransfer" http://www.languagetransfer.org/#!about-us/cee5

It's brilliant, I really like it. But it somehow doesn't seem to help with my duolingo. I still want to keep going though.... Any suggestions or any help out there?

3 years ago

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https://www.duolingo.com/CharmingTiger
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Keep going! How long were you motivated, and how long since you stopped being motivated? Everything comes and goes in cycles, so don't delete your username and walk away from Duolingo just yet! You will have days, or even weeks, where things are just not clicking for you. Then you wake up one day and feel like you are ready to move to Spain! But even that does not last. So, the key here is this: Be aware of the natural ebb and flow of your motivational patterns.

3 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Usagiboy7
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I started experiencing burnout this summer. My way to weather it was just to keep my streak going, sometimes 1XP a day. It helps if you are interested in some media, like news, anime, fanfiction, movies. I'm finding that I prefer watching a movie in English with Spanish subtitles for me to read. This is because when I read, my ears tend to shut things out. So, watching a movie in Spanish with English subtitles wasn't working very well. I can watch movies that are in Spanish but not subtitled and that works better too, but it is difficult as well. But, some people don't have the same problem.

For reading things online, I highly recommend Readlang.com. It is my favorite tool for reading. I click on a word or a group of words and it gives me a translation so I don't have to stop and get out my dictionary, which is too time consuming for me. ReadLang is really great.

Don't give up though! In a year you'll be sad you did. But do find ways to make learning interesting again. If your current approach isn't working, switch to a new one.

3 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/squarism

I feel the same way on past tense verbs. But I just told myself to "crank on past tense". So I've been keeping everything gold and practicing the last topic/module that was giving me trouble. I don't think it's sunk in but it's starting to.

Like irregular verbs are starting to brute-force sink in. Pedí (I asked) vs pidió (he asked) is an example. I mostly know it in context whereas I didn't before. I can't produce it quickly (en - es) but I think that's the next step. I'm just staying on the difficult module. I hope it turns natural for me soon, that's a big motivator boost (for me).

3 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Emma181

what i do is i take notes it helps alot you just write down sentences and words that you think you might forget and if you forget a problem you can just look at your notes:)

3 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Cyneburg
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I experienced this recently as well, around halfway through the tree. My problem was, I need things broken down then to put it together. DL doesn't do that. It just throws new concepts at you and there might be some explanation. So for conjugating in tenses that are new to me, I first go to memrise and do that first, to see the different conjugations, I do the same with new grammar. When I feel like I'm ready to do dl I usually go through them really fast. And because of that I gained a lot of confidence and I like learning again.

I'm not sure why I need new concepts broken down for me to learn but that's how I work. I guess that's how it's done in school. This may not be helpful for you, but learning the conjugations before hand really does help as well as the new grammar stuff. I know dl is suppose to teach that stuff but sometimes one needs to go to other places for explanations for it to click.

If you want to keep at it then keep at it! Learning a language isn't easy but it does have it's rewards.

3 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/rocko2012
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If you are half way through the tree with 3652 XP you must not use the strengthen skills feature enough. Forget new lessons and start using the strengthen skills button till it gets too easy.

3 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/cambrightlamb

Thank you, this advice seems to apply doubly to me and I am finding it helpful to take a break and focus on strengthening skills for a while. Hopefully then the progression will start to be less head spinning again.

3 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Czubbi
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I was thinking that maybe some podcast/programme/youtube video might be useful. I noticed that my skills are too weak to listen to Spanish radio cause I almost don't understand anything (I tried). So, some programme made for beginners/intermediates might work (I'm looking for something where Spanish people have a conversation at natural speed but with vocabulary limited to beginners/intermediate level) I have checked so many websites and haven't found anything that's suitable for my level. PS: I watched all the Extra en Espanol episodes- really great but now finished!

3 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/mjaumjaupurr
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Have you tried fluentu.com? They have a lot of free language video content in Spanish and it is ranked from beginner to advanced in terms of difficulty. They have a premium version but I've been using the free version for a while and it has been quite useful.

3 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/cambrightlamb

Note: that is fluentU.com (as miaomiaopurr posted), if you mistakenly go to fluentO.com (like i did) you will be sent to a German website for learning Spanish that doesn't seem particularly helpful.

3 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/ElimGarak

http://learner.org/series/destinos/watch/ep2/ I'd suggest watching this show, Destinos: An Introduction to Español. It's a great way to learn Spanish without realizing that you're learning more than you think.

3 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/erennert20
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I decided to try immersion once I lost my motivation a little

3 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/cambrightlamb

I feel exactly the same way. I am on the past tense verbs, just as someone else mentioned. I do not feel this "difficult moment" is inherent in learning the language, I think it is because Duolingo is not handling these later lessons as helpfully as the earlier ones. For example, the Duolingo dictionary hints in the very difficult object-pronouns module are done in combination as if each object pronoun + verb were it's own special figure of speech, which makes it difficult to parse out the individual object pronouns that we are supposed to be learning and understand what they signify in and of themselves. Then that module is immediately followed by the past tense verb module, which is filled with the same difficult obejct-pronoun structure and tons of new verbs that have not yet been learned in their present tense form (I think?). All in all, it results in the head spinning effect that most of us are familiar with from school and university language classes where nobody learned anything at all.

Why not introduce past tense verb structure with simple sentence structure and well established verb vocabulary, then the students can internalize the structure and sound of past tense and THEN add new vocabulary and complexity onto it. It is very difficult for students if you are not only introducing a new concept but also introducing new vocabulary unrelated to the concept and also additional sentence complexity all at the same time. It shouldn't always be: forward, forward, forward, harder, harder, harder; sometimes you should go forward in only one aspect and simplify (backward) in the others so the one aspect can be grasped and mastered with minimum confusion. Maybe the Duolingo structure is too simplistically linear in that regard.

To me it feels sort of like the design is, "Ok, folks who got this far can just be dropped in the deep end of the pool, no more hand holding."

But, if I am being completely honest, it also feels like as the modules go on there has been less thought and quality control efforts invested in them.

I'll keep pushing along with it, at least for a while, but even if half way down the tree is as far as I find Duolingo productively takes me it will have been an amazing resource.

3 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/bobster708

one word for you... pan

3 years ago