"Mannen har flera skärp."

Translation:The man has several belts.

November 25, 2014

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someone please help me understand the pronunciation of "skärp"... to me it sounds like [hwaɹ]


Firstly, there should be a -p at the end of the pronunciation.

Secondly, sk- is pronounced like in the recording when it comes before the vowels e, i, y, ä, ö in most cases. This is because of historical reasons. Those vowels are pronounced in the front of the mouth so the consonants that came before these vowels were gradually moved forward until they became ”soft”.

Therefore we now have a series of consonants that are pronounced with this ”hw”-sound (in Swedish called the sje-sound). These clusters are e.g. sj, sk, skj, stj. It is known for having many other spellings, especially in loanwords like ”choklad” and ”genre” and words on -tion like ”station”.

The same thing happens to ”k” which is pronounced ”sh” in front of e, i, y, ä, ö and ”g” which is ”y” in front of the same vowels.


It's sooo difficult to pronounce it!


Adding a note here that the p sound is audible with the new TTS. 2015-04-07


So do you mean that there's a "hw/sje-sound" in "choklad", "genre" and "station"? I'm confused!


Yes exactly. They’re pronounced as if they were ”sjocklad”, ”sjanger” and ”stasjon”.


tack...but i still don't hear the -p at the end.


No, it’s missing in the audio. There should be one. The computer voice is not perfect.


ah ok. so it should be [hw'aɹp]?


I'm a little confused... Is skärp pronounced hwelp or fwelp? The voice seems to pronounce with a fw sound. Also, the link you posted had 2 different pronunciations, one hw and one fw.


It should not have a clear f-sound.

It should be pronounced roughly like the German ach-laut in Bach but with rounded lips and with the articulation moved further to the front so it doesn’t have any throat friction. It sounds roughly like when you are blowing out a candle.

You could also describe it as an f-sound but without your upper teeth touching your bottom lip and instead having rounded lips and move the articulation slightly further back.


Is the use of the sje sound for sj, sk, skj, etc "pan-swedish"? From other instruction, and from relatives in Finland, I have come to understand that the "sh" sound is used in these cases in different areas, also.


The exact pronunciation of the sj-ljud varies a bit by region, but it doesn't tend to differ across spellings within a region.


I'm hearing fharp.

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    So is skärp similar to brev and barn as far as declension goes?


    Yep! Ett skärp, flera skärp.


    Looks like this guy's hoarding belts.


    So flera can't be many? It can only be several or multiple?


    In my understanding, många is more correct.


    Yes, flera is 'several' or 'multiple', and många is 'many'.


    I thought belt is "bälte"?


    You're right, ett bälte also means 'a belt'. There's even a third word for it, en livrem.


    ಥ_ಥ So many to remember!


    You introduced belt as skarp, now it's sashes? Please make it clear


    The only word for this we teach in the course is skärp = 'belt'. However, 'sash' is an accepted answer. The system tries to match what you input to the closest accepted answer, which means you may get shown sash depending on what you write.


    This seems to be a relatively new behaviour for Duolingo. I'm pretty sure it used to just show the official answer. I guessed "scarves", so it showed me "sashes". Grr. Even if "sash" is a possible meaning for "skärp", I don't think it's helpful.

    When I remember to, I just put "x" for a word I don't know instead of guessing, to try to prevent Duolingo from giving me bizarre or misleading "corrections". Double grrrr.


    It's really not - Arnauti's comment is over three years old. It went away at one point but came back again about a year ago, give or take a few months. :(


    Ha, you're right. I didn't notice the date for Arnauti's post. I may be noticing it more now because I'm learning a new language instead of just practicing the ones where I had finished the trees.


    An other work, that has similar pronunciation is skinka (part of pork in EN or Schinken in GER). For me it is more important word then skärp :D Would it be also [huinka]? On forvo a guy from island pronounce it like [skinka]


    There's a Swedish pronunciation on Forvo too, and it sounds right. http://sv.forvo.com/search-sv/skinka/
    It's the same sound in skinka as in skärp.


    Kött = [sjutt] ? Skärp [fwerp] or [sjerp] ? Skjöldpadda.... ? Skjorta... ? Is 'k' not mostly pronounced as [sj] or [sh] ???

    I'm really confused when I seem to hear the computer voice say something like [fwerp] for the word 'skärp'??!!


    The word skärp is best remembered (to me) by the similarity in sounds as 'whip' so it's like belt whipping hahah


    Is there a singular word for belt? Or is "skärp" both?


    It has the same form in singular and plural.


    I understand that just like in english, "many" and "several" are different words as they are in swedish, but are they not practically synonymous?

    Or is there a deeper meaning that would make it not so?


    The typical definition of "several" is something like "more than a few, but fewer than many" - so they're different in terms of quantity.

    Merriam-Webster does list the "many == several" usage as "chiefly dialectal", which I think sums it up nicely.


    Also sometimes as in this lesson with all the different clothing artikals.. You might think that u r never going to get the hang of it but u do after a while. Also I learned to figure out if a word is an en or ett word from the beginning..i am enjoying the course a lot... Thanks Duolingo...


    How do you say "the belt" and "the belts"? None of the example sentences show it.

    • belt = skärp
    • belts = skärp
    • the belt = skärpet
    • the belts = skärpen


    Very obviously related to German "Schärpe".


    So the word "skarp" can mean just one belt or more than one???


    That's correct. I should note, although I know this is just a keyboard issue, that skärp = belt, while skarp = sharp.


    Yes, I am not able to make use of the Swedish accents as my keyboard doesn't have that option. Oh, but thanks for your response to my question.

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