So, just to be clear: If you use present tense verbs, but refer to a time in the future, it makes the translation future tense? So "Jag ringer dig" is "I call you", whereas "Jag ringer dig i morgon" is "I will call you tomorrow"?
Does that also mean "Jag ringer dig i går" is "I rang you yesterday"? I'm guessing no?...
You’re completely right. You can use the present tense to refer to the future, but not to the past.
Does it sound wrong if you say "Jag ska ringa dig imorgon" or "Jag kommer att ringa dig imorgon"? I imagine leaving the "ska/kommer att" out is more efficient. But I guess I'm wondering if it sounds wrong or changes the meaning to incude "ska/kommer attt" when you specify a future date in the sentence. .
The two future constructions in Swedish have slightly different meanings. ska always includes somebody's will or intention. Whenever you say ska, somebody wants something to happen. So if I say "Jag ska ringa dig i morgon" there's also the sense that I've decided to do that. This could work for instance if it's a sort of a promise. The construction kommer att has something of a prediction in it. "Jag kommer att ringa dig i morgon" is sort of telling the story of things that are going to happen tomorrow. Both are OK, but the best way of saying it is actually "Jag ringer dig i morgon", with just the present time.
Ok great thanks for confirmation that they all sound ok. Makes it easier as a beginner to not stress too much about which one to use.
I also appreciated a mention of this in the notes in the lesson on Future tense. That it just takes time to know which one is usually used.
I don't understand the distinction between something being a "sort of promise" (ska) versus something "telling the story of what will happen" (kommer att) . Those seem like the same thing to me?
If the "story" of tomorrow includes me calling you then have I not promised to call you?
If I have promised to call you, does not tomorrow's "story" include me calling you?
I'm more confused than before I read your comment. :(
Jag tror att de ska flytta till Danmark - I am not sure, but I think they said that they are going to move to Denmark
Jag tror att de kommer att flytta till Danmark - I would not surprised if they move to Danmark one day
The bottom line is, has someone decided they want it to happen, or are you just making a prediction that it's likely to happen?
I'm guessing that it's like English. We can say I cook dinner tonight,I am cooking dinner tonight, I'm going to cook dinner tonight, and I will cook dinner tonight. All ways of expressing the future. They're all pretty interchangeable - for beginners - but have slightly different connotations for natives and more advanced speakers. Spanish and Dutch do the same thing.
Now that I think about it:
I'm calling you. = Jag ringer dig.
I'm calling you tomorrow. = Jag ringer dig i morgon.
I'm going to call you tomorrow. = Jag kommer att ringa dig i morgon.
I will call you tomorrow. = Jag ska ringa dig i morgon.
I called (rang) you yesterday. = Jag ringade dig i går. (I think)
"I call you yesterday" and "Jag ringer dig i går" are both nonsense.
So it actually matches up quite neatly with those translations, right? They all make sense in English.
Please correct me if I'm wrong!
The past form is ringde. For the difference between ska/kommer att, see my other comment here.
"I'm calling you tomorrow" as the translation for "Jag ringer dig i morgon" sounds a bit strange to me. Don't we usually say "I'm going to call you tomorrow" or "I'll (I will) call you tomorrow".
"I'm eating a meal with friends later."
"I'm driving to London tomorrow."
"I'm playing a gig next week."
"I'm going on holiday next week."
All these make sense in English, would the Swedish translations still have that "Jag verb future time" syntax?
(strange duolingo won't let me reply to your last message - so had to post reply to my own)
Your examples are great - thanks so much! " I am calling you tomorrow" makes more sense now.
I hope we can get verification on the Swedish. If these are all acceptable with slightly different meaning. "Jag ringer dig imorgon" "Jag ska ringa dig imorgon" "Jag kommer att ringa dig imorgon"
Native speaker here: Personally I'm not sure I'd translate all of owngrfld's sentences in that specific syntax, but that may just be a matter of taste. I'd definitely say it's one valid way of translating them though, so yeah, you got it right.
"Jag ringer dig" is something we often say when parting. It very often has a futural meaning even without any reference to time in the sentence itself. (context is enough)
This is off topic, but I don't know how many lifes I have lost from typing "Jeg ringer dig" in Danish. There you have to say "Jeg ringer til dig" and I always forget about that.
I actually saw your comment about that in the Danish course. Totally agree, very confusing! This is much worse than frokost not being frukost.
It is the same in Spanish. You bump into someone in the street and when you say goodbye it's common to say: "Te llamo" (I call you). You don't even add "tomorrow". It's also very common to say "Nos llamamos" ("We call each other", which is something like a promise to be in contact with that person in the future)
So, is it the sort of thing you just say when parting. You don't necessarily intend to call, but it is just a polite way to part? I have always defaulted to using "ska" in situations like this, so this (and your other answer) is very informative, thank you!
Well, if you actually specify that you are going to call tomorrow, then you probably intend to call. But, as Arnauti said, "Jag ringer dig" (or "Vi hörs") can be a way to say "See you" or something like that.
I instinctively typed down 'I am calling you moron' before I did a double take. lol
So "I will call you tomorrow in the morning" is "Jag ringer dig i morgon på morgonen"? I have trouble between 'i' and 'på'.
Exactly! Or, for tomorrow morning, you can also use the very special "i morgon bitti".
So "i morgon" has nothing to do with morning? If I intend to call someone in the afternoon/evening tomorrow, I'd still say this?
Jag ringer dig i morgon bitti means 'I'll call you tomorrow morning', the word bitti is taught elsewhere in the course.
For the afternoon, just say i morgon eftermiddag or i morgon på eftermiddagen. And for the evening, i morgon kväll or i morgon på kvällen.
how can I see those discussions I have followed there is not notification I see?????
That depends - i morse if you mean this past morning, or e.g. nu på morgonen if you mean the current morning.
"Du" for a subject, dig for an object (and also for reflexive verbs):
Du har en bok - you have a book
Jag gillar dig - I like you
Jag ger dig en bok - I give you a book
Du tvättar dig - you wash yourself
Can someone explain why it isn't "Jag ska ringer dig i morgon". Without the ska I would assume it translates to I am ringing you tomorrow
You can say "Jag ska ringa dig i morgon", but it's very common to use present tense for the near future.
Spanish also has the same word for morning and tomorrow - "mañana". Any other languages that do that?
This one has an apparent bug where answering "Jag ringer de i morgon" or "Jag ringer det i morgon" results in a "you're writing in English" response, rather than the usual "wrong answer" response. Just wanted to point it out, as it seemed a bit strange. Tack!
Hehe, that's weird. I agree, that does make no sense. Unfortunately, we can't affect that at all, so I think we'll just have to consider it a strange little anomaly. :)