If you have an adjective that goes with the noun, you typically need an article before it as well. So you have both ”de” and ”-na” acting as two definite articles.
just asking - shouldn't be "de" pronounced as "dom" instead of as it is now? It sound like the pronunciation of "det", helt förvirrande :)
Yeah, the TTS has got it wrong. It’s always dom except for a few dialects (especially in Finland).
- De gula byxorna. (plural; both genders)
- Den gula hatten. (singular, en)
- Det gula bordet. (singular, ett)
The -a in gula is both the definite article and the plural form.
OK. After reading the comments I understand why we need an article. But why do we use the subject "de" instead of the object "dem"?
The articles don't have object forms. It is the personal pronoun de which has the object form dem. The best way to tell the difference could be to check if it translates to they or the in English – of course in some dialects you could say "them yellow pants", but disregarding that, hopefully most people would prefer the yellow pants over they yellow pants. :)
It's already been answered in this discussion, but yes, de is always pronounced as dom (except in some dialects).
Hi, I wanted to know this as well and found an article: http://www.thelocal.se/blogs/theswedishteacher/2010/11/08/den-or-det/
[examples removed due to being misleading, see Arnauti's response below in the discussion below]
Why does "de" sounds like "dom"? Before it wasn´t like that, and it confused me, is that all right? or is it incorrect.
We're having an A/B test with a new TTS, and if you hear dom here, you're having the new voice, which says it correctly. The old one was wrong, one of the reasons we wanted to replace it.
So "de" is always pronounced "dom" regardless of the context? (I.e. not just when it's used as "they" but also when used in a sentence like this?)
Yes, both de and dem are always said as dom in Standard Swedish, regardless of meaning. Btw we recently went out of the A/B test I mentioned in my previous comment, so everybody should hear the new voice now.