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https://www.duolingo.com/profile/DonnaMarie

Que lo, lo que

Since we have been discussing pronouns, these words always puzzle me. They seem to be thrown into the sentences we are translating and I can't figure out the rules for using them.

October 23, 2012

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https://www.duolingo.com/profile/fuonk

"Lo que" is used where we would use "that which" in English. (It can also be translated as "what" in some sentences-- Entiendo lo que dice, I understand what you're saying.) Can you give an example of "que lo" occurring in a sentence?

October 23, 2012

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/fuonk

Oh-- if the pronoun lo/le/la/los/les/las refers to a person or people, "que" will of course be the relative pronoun "who".

October 23, 2012

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/fuonk

Here's something that might be confusing you. "Le" and "les" are third person indirect object pronouns, and "lo", "los", "la" and "las" are third person direct object pronouns. However, "le" and "les" are used as direct object pronouns in some dialects (instead of "lo" and "los"). Also, since people are preceded by "a" when they would be the direct object of an English verb, they can also be represented by "le" and "les" in these circumstances. Finally, combinations such as "le la" (indirect object "le" followed by direct object "la") are avoided by changing "le" to "se". Now is everything clear? :p

October 23, 2012

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/fuonk

@pjreads: I'm surprised that it's not "le" instead of "lo" there, but perhaps both are possible. My understanding is that when referring to people, indirectness is polite-- hence the "personal a" for people who would be direct objects in English-- and one would also expect the indirect object pronoun "le" in this case for the same reason. I may be out of my depth here, though.

October 23, 2012

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/siebolt

"..que lo quiero" is a sub clause where 'que" is the conjunction >> "... that I love him." It seems to me your problem is more caused by the different meanings of "que" than by the combination with "le,la, etc.

October 23, 2012

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/DonnaMarie

No I don't have an example of that. That just shows how confused I am whenever "que" shows up with other pronouns.

October 23, 2012

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/fuonk

If you can find some examples, maybe I can help with your confusion. Generally, "que" (without an accent mark) functions the way the relative pronouns "that" and "which" function in an English sentence-- introducing a dependent (also called relative) clause. So "las que", for example, may be translated as "those which", where "those" replaces a feminine plural noun. But maybe I'm not thinking of the usages which are really causing you to be confused.

October 23, 2012

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/DonnaMarie

It keeps showing up in our translation articles so I will write some down and ask you. Thanks!

October 23, 2012

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/pjreads

The one I've seen several times is:

Yo nunca le digo a él que lo quiero. I never tell him that I love him.

October 23, 2012
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