https://www.duolingo.com/profile/batareikin

"se trata"

There are translations that simplify its meaning to "is". But I would like to find better translations. It might be "it is meant to be" or something like that, but I'm not sure which translation is better.

October 24, 2012

11 Comments


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/fuonk

I assume that "trata" is a cognate for "treat", so that "se trata" would correspond to something like "(it) concerns". The best translation is clearly going to vary from sentence to sentence, though.

October 24, 2012

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/christian

There's nothing wrong with translating "se trata" as "it is". In most cases, this is the best translation because it sounds the most natural.

October 24, 2012

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/fuonk

@christian: Do you think there might be cases in which "It is about..." or "It concerns..." might be an appropriate translation? Do you know whether or not my guess that "tratar" is a cognate of "treat" is correct?

October 24, 2012

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/batareikin

Well, here is an example you have translated recently :"Se trata de Cthulhu Tech un juego inspirado en los mitos de H.P. Lovecraft pero ambientado en un futuro no muy lejano."

October 24, 2012

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Menkure

I think the best translation is It's about. For example: Se trata de como mejorar tu español = It's about how to improve your spanish.

fuonk, about your question you can say treat in case of medical terms. For example: Este paciente se trata con aspirinas y reposo. This pacient is treated with aspirins and rest.

October 24, 2012

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/fuonk

That wasn't my question; my question was whether "tratar" and "treat" are cognates. In English, "concern an issue" = "be about an issue" = "treat an issue", although "treat" is the least commonly used of these. I was just trying to make a connection between "tratarse" and "be about" via the cognate "treat", if it is indeed a cognate.

October 24, 2012

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/christian

@fuonk: Yes, they are cognates. Both "treat" and "tratar" have their roots in the Latin "trahere".

"is about" is certainly one of the most frequent meanings. It all depends on the context. Here's an overview of what "tratar" can mean: http://spanish.about.com/od/usingparticularverbs/a/tratar.htm

October 24, 2012

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/fuonk

@christian: Thanks for the helpful answer.

October 24, 2012

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Persikov

Yes, they are definitely cognates tratar and treat (Don't treat me like a fool / No me trates como un tonto).

The link from christian is super-helpful, but it doesn't clearly indicate why "it is" is a possible translation, as in the original question. I can't help you, but just today I wrote an email saying something like "Please print me the file Exam.doc, and the file Chapter1.pdf, which IS a text we will use on the exam." To do so, I wrote "Favor de imprimir el archivo Exam.doc y el archivo hapter1.doc, que SE TRATA de un texto que es parte del examen." Hope it helps.

October 25, 2012

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/batareikin

@christian: Thank you for a good resource! Actually I was looking for a particular form of tratar: "se trata de ..." And from what I have found in this resource - "tratar de, tratarse de, to speak about, to have as a subject" and there are some examples. For translation of my example (posted above) I would probably choose this variation. "Speaking about Cthulhu Tech, it is a game inspired by the myths of H.P. Lovecraft but adapted to near future." May be this is not the best translation, but it is Ok for me.

October 25, 2012

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/christian

@Persikov: "it is" is the best translation whenever something or someone is described first and named later. Here's an example: "Se ha lanzado lo último en consolas portátiles. Se trata de la Playstation Vita."

October 27, 2012
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