"Avete il gelato alle mele?"
Translation:Do you have apple ice cream?
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It would be nice if they also let you not translate the word, "gelato", since it is also a frozen dessert distinct from ice cream.
Quite so. I can go to my local aussie gelato shop and get an apple gelato. No way would I be able to find apple ice cream
Indeed. Check this out, I just found this article on gelato. It has both English and Italian translations too (and the gelato in the pic looks scrumptious!)
http://www.italymagazine.com/dual-language/dual-language-gelato-italiano-italian-ice-cream
Youre missing out if you've never had apple icecream - there are so many flavours coming out, here in north america! :)
Really? I thought all this time gelato was just a type of ice cream. Nice to learn these kinds of things!
Yep, in my town there's a lot of gelato, ice cream, and frozen yogurt shops and all of them are completely different entities.
You can use the word "gelato" instead of ice cream! Counted as correct when I did.
Not in all cases! I've tried keeping "gelato" with some answers and it counted as correct, and others as incorrect! I wish they would standardize it -- Ice-cream is NOT gelato!
The problem with this is that the word 'gelato' is used in Italian for both the things that English speakers call 'ice cream' and what they call 'gelato'. There are modifiers you can use to distinguish the two if you need or want to, but it's considered the same word in Italian.
First of all, because "mela" is feminine and you would have to say "alla". Secondly, there's no reason to refer to one apple.
The last part is interesting. Why is there something called "la zuppa al pomodoro", then? I would argue that multiple tomatoes are required if you want a tomato soup to actually taste something :)
If you want a wild guess, I'd say that in Italy tomatoes are handled in mass and "pomodoro" is in fact regarded as a kind of material, like "wood" or "iron", which is expressed only in the singular.
Not exactly Italian-related, but in Portuguese we have the same problem with specific things. You could absolutely refer to a tomato soup (singular) or a soup of tomatoes (plural), and people would still understand you. Perhaps not exactly in what the rules say, but how the language is used. Maybe that's what's going on in Italian: a soup in the style of tomato, but an ice cream with the flavour of apples.
Tomato is regarded in that case as an uncountable/mass noun, because it's basically the material the whole soup is made of, while apple is considered a countable noun, like saying that gelato/ice cream was made from apples.
First of all it's 'gelato alla mela'. And I think it would also work. At least it does in Google translate, from both English to Italian and vice versa.
I would say "alle mele" means something like "of the apple kind" or "in the apple style." "Alla francese" means "in French style." "Al forno" means "oven style." For a question "Do you have...?" sounds right.
I was thinking the same thing but with so many flavors out there it could also be apple flavored ice cream.
I do not get it , why would it be " alle mele " as apple ice cream or whatever and not be alla mela if he wants to say apple ice cream ..... why plural and translated singular !
the "gelato" part is singular. "alle mele" because... well, it's like putting the essence of an apple in the ice cream, so it's plural.
I know right? The explanation makes no sense to me at all. Most of the time, I find that Italian makes sense to me, but definitely NOT in this case.
Why not? --> Avete il gelato alla mela. Why did not this plural setting apply for previous lessons that had: il gelato al limone? Mio dio.
why is alle in this sentence at all?!!n surely it isn't needed and duolingo tells me it means as/a/to ... makes no sense?!
I am learning that it is very common in Italian to use this construction to signify the flavor of something, e.g. "te (accent) al limone" or "torta al cioccolato." It's just how they say it!
In your examples the flavourings are written in the singular but in the discussion we are using a flavouring of apples, plural. I still don't see the difference between apples and lemon.
See viaggiatore's comment above. This is like the French phrase "a la" which is often borrowed in English, as in "pie a la mode", or "a la carte". It roughly translates as "of the type".
i still don't understand why it says (plural) mele in italian and (singular) apple in english???
why is "are you having apple ice cream?" not accepted, in the sense of asking someone if they are eating it or going to choose it?
Well, I'm not sure if this is what you are asking, but 'le' is only a definite article, feminine, plural form, and 'alle' is a combination of the preposition 'a' with that same article. (alle = a + le). So, anywhere you would need to use that preposition 'a' with the feminine noun in plural that requires the article 'le' you would need to precede it with that 'alle' combination.
The Italian preposition 'a' can mean "to," "at," or "in," depending on how you use it in context. You use it in the following cases:
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When saying that you are going or staying somewhere, as in 'Vado a Milano.' or 'Si trova a Venezia. (It can be found in Venice.)
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Before indirect objects: 'Scriva a Rita.' or 'Scriviamo alle zie. (We write to our aunt.)
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In combination with certain verbs: andare a... (to go to) (Vado a casa VS Vado alle piazze.) fermarsi a... (to stop) incoraggiare a... (to encourage) invitare a... (to invite to) insegnare a... (to teach) riuscire a... (to succeed) venire a... (to come to)
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In the following phrases: a mezzogiorno (at noontime) alle tre (at three) barca a vela (sailboat) sedia a rotelle (wheelchair)
Thanks...two seconds after I wrote that question. the light dawned and I realized what was what.
Why not say "gelato al mele", like "torta al cioccolato". I'm confused. Is it because apple is a fruit and not a flavor? It's still "un ingrediente". Si o no?
Attributive nouns are usually singular: http://www.englishspark.com/en/blog/stumpers/447-noun-modifier-attributive-noun
I aggree with some of you.. . why alle mele? (Plural) if the translation is gotta be singular?
I will have to reward and indulge myself on some Ben and Jerry's Apple Pie Ice Cream
I assume that ha is this person singular (lui ha/ lei ha/ la gatta ha) and ho is first person singular (io ho). Could someone please explain the other forms to me? I don't understand when "avete" should be used.
Is it just me, or is the accent on the wrong syllable of "avete" in the audio? Sounds like they're saying "A-ve-te", not "a-VE-te".
I didn't quite get the usage of 'alle' here. Could someone write the exact translation of the sentence?
How come it is, literally, "Do you have the APPLES ice cream?" and not APPLE (in singular?) I.e.: Avete il gelato alla mela?
In English we don't use the definite article "the" as much as it is used in Italian. We would only say "the apple ice cream" if we were referring to a specific carton of ice cream, for instance. Otherwise, it's just "apple ice cream."
I agree that "the apple ice cream" is incorrect unless the situation is that you knew that in the past they have had that flavour and you are referring to this particular one. However, I (a native English speaker) answered "do you have an apple ice cream?" which was also (and in my opinion, mistakenly) judged incorrect.
While technically correct English, that's a very odd word formation and the software can only guess at so much.
Mi piacerebbe vedere una scelta tipo "Do you have apple flavored ice cream?" , so that it makes more sense. Altrimenti significa di piu gelato fatto proprio di mele.
So... apples describe the kind of ice cream, and "a" is necessary. But when you use black to describe a shirt- it is not used. Can someone explain this?
I don't understand why it is (voi) avete and not (Lei) ha? I put "Do you all have apple ice cream which was marked correct, but a bit odd!"
"Lei ha" is "she has", not "you". The correct answer, as you already said, is "Do YOU have apple ice cream". If "Lei ha" was correct, the sentence would then have read as "Does SHE have apple ice cream".
Because the word apple functions/serves as an adjective here, and adjectives are hardly ever (almost never) in plural. That's why we say 'a three-year-old boy' and NOT 'a three-yearS-old boy'. There are some exceptions though, which you can find at http://david-crystal.blogspot.com/2010/05/on-plural-adjectives.html
I think "Have you apple ice cream " is incorrect english. I think it should be "Do you have apple ice cream? " or " Have you got apple ice cream? ". If you substitute the verb " have " with any other verb e.g. " eat or buy or sell " you can see the problem. You cannot say " eat you apple ice cream? " or "Buy you apple ice cream? " You must say " do you eat " or " do you buy apple ice cream? "
" Have you apple ice cream" is commonly used in english but is incorrect as are many other commonly used phrases. They may, in time, become so commonly used that they become the correct version of grammar but as yet this phrase would be deemed incorrect.
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Sorry, 'have you apple ice cream' is perfectly correct - 'got' is redundant, and no more correct. 'Do you have' is American English, not used in Europe.
This was a confusing sentence just because i couldn't fathom apple ice cream. I'm intrigued now, thus begins my quest to locate a mythical item...
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Of course. In English there are many ways of saying the same thing. In Italian there are many ways of interpreting one thing!
What is the difference between " Do you have?" and "Have you?" One is the correct answer and one is wrong
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What is the meaning of the word "alle" in this sentence? Why wouldn't you use "dalle" meaning "of the apples"? Does "a" also mean "of"?
In England we are just as likely to say "Have you apple ice cream?' as "Do you have apple ice cream?" which is more formal, but Duolingo didn't accept my answer. Why?
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It really sounds as if he's saying "mede" and not "mele." I typed in mede and it accepted it but still.
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Avete il gelato alle mele?
Avele il gelato alle mele.
Are both sentences read the same way?
Isn't there any change in the emphasis in the sentence?
Have you apple ice cream? is the same as Do you have apple ice cream? why don't you accept it?
do you have apple ice cream? is exactly the same as Have you apple ice cream. you must accept it
Gelato di apple is a flavor. MAKE APPLE ICE CREAM WITH MILK OR CREAM TO THE APPLE.
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It's a little sneaky giving "Apples" as an option then marking you wrong for using it.
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why is it 'alle mele' - i.e. 'apples' plural? Why not 'alla mela' singular? Is it the same for all fruit flavoured ice-creams - banane, arance, melograni .....?
Apple is mela. Any other fruit ice cream uses the singular fruit name. So why are you using mele.
{March 14, 2022} I don't understand why there are multiple apples in this term to express this: "Il gelato alle mele." Any other time we have encountered a situation like this, such as lemon cookies, it is singular: "Il biscotto al limone" "La crema al cioccolato" "Il gelato alla fragola"
Am I right or wrong about this? Please confirm or correct. Thank you.