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  5. "Déanann siad an bia."

"Déanann siad an bia."

Translation:They make the food.

December 12, 2014



Déanann looks like the wrong word. Ullmhaíonn?


Yeah, but see that you can make food, not only prepare...


I cannot tell the difference between sibh and siad on the audio. I played it three times and I could still hear a "v" sound in there.


sibh sounds more like "shiv" and siad sounds like "she-id"


Mine did not say 'Deanann" it said "dillon"


i agree, the current recording sounds off - i hear 'dineann', certainly not 'déanann'.


It is probably not related but, in Munster, we use deinim and not déanaim.

Deinim is more regular - do dheineas / níor dheineas in past (not rinne mé / ní dhearna mé). It is, however, irregular in future/conditional where both versions agree - déanfad, etc.


Oh how I adore the Irish language (:


Why is "They make the meal" incorrect?


Because the word for 'meal' is 'beile.' (I have never seen the word, only heard it, so forgive me if the spelling is wrong.)


If you heard it, there should be noted that é is higher and more strained than e, and then you should write it as béile. In Munster they seem to speak this é as \eɪ\ and in other dialects as it should really sound (very similar to French é in bébé).


Thank you. :) That I will remember now.


Meal is 'béile'...food is 'bia'


Isn't 'They cook the food' should be correct too?


déan is the verb for 'make' or 'do', not 'cook', which is a borrowed word from English - they'd use 'prepare' (I got called out on that once, actually!)


I just got corrected to "They do the food" which is weirdly phrased. If the meaning of "do" is what I understand, it should be an activity like "They do the cooking" or maybe "They do the food preparation".


It looks like cócaráil is the verb for “cook”.


What's bothering me is, why is cairéad pronounced caireád?


As a rule it should be pronounced cairéad..but unfortunately they are using a Connacht dialect here on the app..Connacht people have very different pronunciations which differ to most of the rest of Ireland..eg..the verb to work 'obair'...Most people prounce that as 'ub-ir'.....Connacht speakers prounce it as 'ib-ir' which throws me every time I hear it..They also tend to ignore sineadh fadas..and pronounce 'mh' and 'bh' as 'w' instead of the most commonly used 'v' sound....Connacht speakers also have a habit of omitting letters from a word when speaking..So it can be difficult to undestand them.. ..I find it confusing myself on here and I regard myself as a near fluent speaker of Gaeilge.


Wait till you hear 'bhur' pronounced 'mur'!


I won't give you an answer why, but maybe this will be helpful. http://www.teanglann.ie/en/fuaim/cair%C3%A9ad


Whats the relationship, I wonder, between, english "Deign" and irish Deanann? anyone?


Please, compare

http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/d%C3%A9an#Irish (the first Etymology which follows to http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/Appendix:Proto-Indo-European/%C7%B5enh%E2%82%81- - the link is not valid without the hyphen at the end, you have to copy the whole link from here or just write it in address bar at the end of the address)



As you can see they have nothing to do with each other :)


Nice! this one is like the spanish sentence: "Hacemos la comida" <- We make the food. Literally.


If the "i" in siad and bia is pronounced "ee", why does it need the accent in other words, such as in taitníonn? How do I know when it needs the accent?


Neighbouring vowels also dictate pronunciation; similarly anything with 'aoi' is pronounced as though it were í.


Because the "i" in bia and siad is the nucleus of the stressed syllable. In general, all the vowels that are NOT in a stressed syllable are reduced to schwa. So, as the "i" in "taitníonn" is not the nucleus of the stressed syllable (it's "ai"), then it needs a fada not to be reduced to the schwa sound.

Of course there are cases where you have a fada over a stressed vowel. The reasons for that are a bit different though. It's related to pronunciation too, though. Sometimes it's there to make clear which vowel is the "sounding vowel" and which one(s) is(are) there just for the "caol le caol agus leathan le leathan" rule.


Thanks. Irish isn't the easiest of languages and I just can't get my head around the pronunciation rules.


I found that Benny Lewis' youtube channel was helpful. Look for the video "How t Pronounce Irish Names"


The fáda makes it more elongated. And I can't really explain. It's all in dialectal differences.


I'm sorry, but make and prepare mean the same thing in this context.


Not necessarily. You can prepare food to be eaten without making it. For instance, cutting up some fruit into bite-sized pieces is not making the fruit, but it is preparing it.


The problem here is that you are thinking in english language terms....Gaeilge as in many other languages have varying ways of saying/describing things and will not always translate perfectly or directly into another language...


In that context, there is no "making" to be done. The only way this phrase makes sense is in a factory where someone is actually constructing processed "food product."


In English you can put things together and say that you are making it.

"You can make a sandwich." Just cutting up fruit, I would say "I prepare the fruit"., but "I can make a fruit salad."


would 'they ---' also be used to refer to a single person of ambiguous gender?


Not in my experience. I don't know what you mean by ambiguous gender but I guess you should use pronouns that represented the person's gender choice. If you mean that you see someone and actually don't know if they are male or female, personally, I'd go for stuff like 'tá an duine sin ag labhairt Gaelainne'..

Duine can mean 'man' seanduine v seanabhean but generally means person.

N.B. the spelling of seanabhean may be wrong; I am writing it as I say it - broad n, slender bh


Are "siad" and "sibh" pronounced the same way?


I couldn't understand the first word. What dialect is this?


I keep hearing added sounds in these spoken sentences, a v here and there and an m sound instead of or with n. I have looked at some Irish grammar books lately, and some of them state at the beginning that they are using Connacht dialect, which must be becoming the standard.


Siad is they and bia is food

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