I'm a horse and I need a long stick with a crunchy carrot...
If you earn 50 points of experience points everyday, how many months do you think it would take to complete the Spanish tree? Also, you don't start a new lesson if a previous lesson is not gold.
I'm a horse and Doulingo is my stick but I have no idea what my carrot is.
Remember that the XP is an indication of the amount you've practiced, not how far you are in the tree.
It's taken me, uh, 144 days--and a placement test that put me after the first checkpoint--to get to the bottom of the tree. I keep my tree gold and earn anywhere between 10 and 200 points a day. I do not necessarily work on a new lesson every day, and I rarely do more than one new lesson a day. The complexity snowballs and it might be hard to keep it all in your head if you just charge ahead without much revision. Certainly the skills will decay faster if you can barely stumble through a complex concept. My subjunctive and modal units keep decaying. :(
Remember, the goal is knowledge rather than a certain level in a certain time frame! I know you're just trying to smell and examine the carrot, but don't lose sight of the barn either.
True. I appreciate your advice. I do review old lessons make have a rule of not starting a new lesson if all of my previous lessons are not gold but I agree that the bigger goal is knowledge rather than completing the tree. I just consider completing the tree a great way to increase and better my knowledge of Spanish.
Well I've been working on French for about 9 months now and I have a bunch of XP (don't know how many exactly but I am at level 21 so over 17,000). I am close to the last checkpoint in the French tree but after that I still have 31 units (units full of lessons, not just lessons) to do before I am done. So I'm averaging 63 points per day and it will probably take me 18 to 24 months to finish the tree, depending on how much harder it gets as I progress. Obviously, I review a lot.
Others don't review as much, retain better, and progress more quickly.
Language learning is not a one size fits all kind of an undertaking. You can't judge or predict your own progress or success based on others. I do, however, understand that it helps to see the bell curve and where you fall in it.
Regarding the carrot, why did you start learning Spanish? Maybe you've lost sight of that.
Wow. Well keep up the good work. Brilliant insight Lrtward. I did lose sight of whats important.
well I think you need 5k xp to finish a course (i have 4935 in portuguese i am about to finish) 5k/50=100 days so maybe 3 months and 1 week :)
Legit. Thanks. Sounds about right. Now are you keeping all the lessons gold before moving on?
I've been at Spanish for four months now and yesterday for the first time tried to read a real story for adults ( http://www.ciudadseva.com/textos/cuentos/esp/borges/las_ruinas_circulares.htm if you're curious) and wow it is rough going. I had to look up something like 35 words in the first paragraph. And I had read the story before in English translation. So I feel like I have a ways to go. I plan to devote one year per language from here on out. My Spanish year will be up at the end of August. September of 2015 I will start on Russian (assuming it's ready by then) and the next year Arabic (ditto). I haven't chosen my language yet for August of 2017. Probably a good idea since I'm old enough now that it's risky for me to buy green bananas. =D
Yes, I finished my tree a week or two ago. But I am still going over and over it until I feel like I know it well, The verb tenses in particular I was just guessing at, but finally I'm starting to learn them better.
I did! I read and still read over and over several children's books in Spanish, and things like that. But I love Jorge Luis Borges, so I thought I would dive in and try with him to see if I was advanced enough yet. I really am not, though I can get a lot out of it still with very slow progress looking up every other word because his writing is so poetic.
I have a problem of getting bored, particularly with writing that's dull. Borges is wonderful because his prose is so concentrated and packed tightly with images and feelings. "No one saw him disembark in the unanimous night, no one saw the bamboo canoe plunge into the sacred mud" is just a snippet of the first sentence that gives a little bit of the flavor. (Translated by me.) (Original: Nadie lo vio desembarcar en la unánime noche, nadie vio la canoa de bambú sumiéndose en el fango sagrado...) He is amazing and great, and my goal is to be able to read his stuff in the original.