https://www.duolingo.com/Gaelic_Lady_20

I need help in Irish with the lenitions and possesives - could anyone please explain them to me?

Hi everyone :) Well, as the title says: I don't want to figure out the meaning of the context everytime and some of the grammar is a bit confusing to me... Any Irish nerds here who might want to help me? :*

3 years ago

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https://www.duolingo.com/Windrammer
Windrammer
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Mo (my) and do (your, singular) trigger lenition. A (his) triggers lenition too, but a (her) does not.

Ár (our), bhur (your, plural) and a (their) trigger eclipsis.

3 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/FearMhaighEo
FearMhaighEo
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Every consonant except for l, n and r can take a séimhiú, which is a h after the first letter of the word.

The consonants b, c, d, f, g, p and t can take an úrú which is a letter placed before the first letter of the word, and kinda cancels out the first letter.

The úruithe (úrús) are:

B - mB

C - gC

D - nD

F - bhF

G - nG

P - bP

T - dT

So a word after Mo (my), Do (your) and A (his) takes a séimhiú. If the next word begins with a vowel, or an "f" followed by a vowel, then it doesn't take a séimhiú, but an apostrophe is added except for "a (his)". e.g.

Mo charr, do d'fhuinneog, and a theach.

M'athair, d'úll and a ainm.

When a word comes after a (her), then no séimhiú is added and a "h" is added before the word if it begins with a vowel.

a carr, a hathair.

For a word after ár (our), bhur (yer) and a (their), an úrú is added before the first letter if it is a consonant and an "n-" is added if it is a vowel. e.g.

Ár nAthair (or ár n-athair), bhur gcarr and a bhfuinneog.

For words beginning with l, n or r there won't be a difference between his, her and their. e.g. the sentence "a rothar" means his bike, her bike and their bike.

Wikipedia covers this very well.

3 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Gaelic_Lady_20

Thanks! Just wrote everything down! :)

3 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/FearMhaighEo
FearMhaighEo
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Ná habair é. You're welcome.

3 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/fgalla
fgalla
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Very comprehensive thanks.

How do you mark up text by the way? [b] bold [/b] doesn't seem to work.

3 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/galaxyrocker

You use one asterisk on either side of the word/phrase for italics, two for bold.

3 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/fgalla
fgalla
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GRMA now i can relax

3 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Louiswu15
Louiswu15
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I'm struggling with the Gaelic, also. Here's a link that might help. http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Irish_grammar

3 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Gaelic_Lady_20

Wow, that's helpful, thanks to you, too! :)

3 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Rewjeo
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As a general rule, if the possessor is singular, then you use lenition. If it's plural, then you use eclipsis. The exception to this is her, which does neither.

3 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/DespoinaTi
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Oh I would be grateful if someone enlightened me on those phenomena too! I am following this discussion! :D

3 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Gaelic_Lady_20

@EpicAwe Alright, thank you... I really have syntax problems with longer sentences... I always turn them upside down, so embarassing....

@DespoinaTi Oh I understand you, dear, I really do... I mean, al those letters in front of words you already learned and then you think "What? Why is that pronounced differently now?" Beautiful language but really strange grammar...

3 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Windrammer
Windrammer
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Just remember that the verb goes first, then the subject and lastly the object. VSO

3 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Gaelic_Lady_20

Ahhh, alright, thanks very much! :)

3 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/DespoinaTi
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I know.. And trying to remember all those grammar rules plus the exceptions to each rule is killing me :P

3 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Gaelic_Lady_20

That's why I made myself a little book with all the Gaelic rules - I really have to write that down to keep it in my head. And I can look it up then, if I need to :)

3 years ago
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