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Can you combine a passive and active clause? "Hunden blev överkörd och dog."
Kör seems to be driving but does överkörd work in other situations that aren't car related? Eg getting trampled in a mass running race like a marathon you could literally say "He fell and was run over by many people".
And, does the combination of över and körd work to create a new word in other similar situations (we were overrun (överspringd?) by the enemy; the government was overthrown (överkastas?) during the revolution; the boat was overturned (övervände?) by the wave... ?
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In a crowd, people get nedtrampade (or nertrampade, there's no difference). Like 'trampled down'.
In some situations overrun can be överkörd. For instance, if you have a strong opinion about something but your boss decides it should be the opposite way, then chefen körde över dig and you blev överkörd. This is pretty strong. A weaker expression is stjälpa, which can sometimes be used when a decision is overturned. This feels more like someone spoiled something or something failed. planerna stjälptes 'the plans were overturned'.
If the government is overthrown, it will be fälld in a peaceful context (like: all other parties voted against it), and störtad if it's violent.
For a boat, stjälpte can also be used, båten stjälpte 'the boat turned over'.
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So....could this also mean something like "We brought the dog over?" (We ran the dog over to your house)?
Haha just the thought of it being used in English to mean "We brought the dog over" is amusing :-)
"Hey, thanks for looking after Puppy while we were away!"
"Sure! Hope you don't mind, we ran him over–"
"WHAT?!"
"-to the dog park every day because he seemed to really love it."
">_<"
Yeah..... probably good to stick with "brought" if that's what you're going for.
Ran and run are of course different tenses but i think in this case they are perfectly interchangeable. It's a bit like he was caught drink driving and he was caught drunk driving.
It's not an uncommon colloquial usage, and it may become acceptable in standard language in the future. For now, though, any editor or teacher would mark it as incorrect, and we really should not accept it.
Pronunciation again. Is "överskörd" correct? It always sounds like "övershienk" to me.
It honestly sounds correct to me. The final rd is a retroflex consonant, not r + d individually, so perhaps that's the reason it's hard to hear?
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Can't get back to it now but it certainly did not sound identifiably correct. Yep, I'm aware of how the rd usually sounds (as in bordet) but thanks for your explanation. I didn't know such a combo is called "retroflex".
I honestly wouldn't rule out entirely that we've been given different audio, as that's happened before without prior notice.
What's the difference between 'Hunden blev överkörd' and 'Hunden överkördes', if any?
I think most natives would say there is no difference. I'd use a third option: hunden kördes över.
Maybe a bit off topic in a swedish course but I am curious whether "the dog was overrun" could also be used as a correct translation here. Could any native english speaker help me out on this one?
No. Overrun in English is a synonym of overwhelmed, and pretty much only used in military contexts like being overrun by the enemy (like MatthewDWhite's example here in the discussion thread) or perhaps biological contexts, like native species being overrun by another invasive species. The object being overrun is usually a group, not a single individual.
Thanks for the clarification. Are the housing options for refugees overrun by the huge numbers of refugees from the middle east?
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That'd probably be acceptable, but in American English we'd prefer "the housing options for refugees were overwhelmed by the huge number arriving from the Middle East". As @Ward.Joshua said, "overrun" has a more military connotation.
