woo hoo! Finished all the German skills!
Now on to Irish. That is all.
Congratulations! I am currently hitting so many brick walls in my attempts to have "the lightbulb" go off with things like "dem, den, einen, dieses, etc" and sentence structure with negatives, dative horrors, etc. Please make my day by reassuring me this will all start to make more sense as I work through it! Ha ha. I am trying to supplement of course, with some texts, children's stories, language learning videos, and all that good stuff. I will keep at it. I know we all have joyous moments and not so joyous moments with learning. Good luck on the Irish!
It does, although I can't say how long it will take. I also struggled with those things (and yes, the dative! argh!) But at some point it got better. I started to realize that, although I was still getting many, many things wrong, I could at least begin to understand WHY it was wrong. And then it got a little easier. I still get tons of those things wrong (and don't get me started on the adjective declensions) but I have gotten to the point where I make fewer mistakes. I hope that comes across as encouraging, because it was meant to!
Oh, it absolutely does, thank you so much for the encouragement! It sometimes just helps to know I am not the only living soul on the planet who is "not getting it" with all the different aspects of German. :) Thanks again!
Try to read/understand what's discussed in the commentaries, that's extremely helpful for me. This community aspect of duolingo seems to be the most crucial reason for my progress.
I feel your pain. I'm currently working on datives, and they are killing me! Aggghhhhh! I'm glad I'm not the only one. Good luck on Irish! (It's a good choice) Auf wiedersehen!
Honestly, I speak to someone on Skype in German (as she doesn't know hardly any English) so that is really helping me. Except when she speaks in her dialect (Pfalzisch). But, I still have problems with some things like sentence structures.
Jeremy, believe me, you are not alone! I feel your pain as well. :) Keep working on it and I shall do the same!
Yes, the commentaries are great, and I need to go back and study them again!
I really recommend the book "English Grammar for Students of German." If you remember any of your high school english grammar at all, this book will help you understand the different aspects of German grammar starting with familiar English sentence structures. I have found it to be excellent!
Congrats! German is not easy, but I guess nothing is unless you practice. Unfortunately, if you don't speak/practice ANY foreign language, you tend to forget it. At least now, you have enough confidence that, if lost in Germany, you would know how to ask for food and water, and say "Danke" afterwards. And that's an accomplishment! - I'm at level 6 moving at a snail pace.
Good job Misona, keep it up! A snail's pace is just fine...more things probably sink in that way!
Good plan! I just finished mine on Friday and am planing on putting more time into my Irish now, too. It is quite a change from German - but, hey, it's got the same ch sounds!
have you any suggestions on how to improve a learned language, once you've finished learning here at duolingo?
What happens after you complete all skills? I mean, is there any kind of advanced level or something else? Would you say you can sustain a full conversation in German?
After you complete it, you get a little congratulations message and icon at the bottom of the tree. There's no advanced stuff, other than a suggestion to work on the translation stuff.
To answer your other question--no, I don't think I could have a full conversation. Not about much more than superficial stuff, really. But that's not duolingo's fault. In order to be able to work on the lessons at home I opted early on to turn the sound and microphone features off, so I've had very little speaking and listening practice. I've tried to do some of that on my own, but it's not the same. So, I could talk to others, but it would come with a lot of trial and error. This is just a fault of trying to learn one on one with no real interaction. I think, though, that if I were to join some sort of local conversational group then the knowledge and skills I've picked up from duolingo would quickly take effect and I'd see pretty quick increases there.
On the other hand, my reading in German has definitely improved--I try to read books and newspapers online, and can make it through and understand a good bit when I do.
I'm not anywhere close to finishing but I have another app called lingua.ly on my phone that has all kinds of articles in whatever language you choose and you can search different categories. Its similar to the immersion section here but it doesn't ask you to translate it. It also has a feature where you can high light a word you don't know and it will translate it and then find more articles with that word so you can remember it. It has helped me get a few words that most language courses don't cover such as christmas and new years (Weihnachten und Silvester) I don't understand a lot in the articles but I think its a fun way to see how far you're coming. I find it motivates me when I can get the gist of an article by picking out a few key words that I know and learn one or two that I didnt!
Awesome answer. Thank you for taking the time. I'm currently learning French and since I'm a spanish native, it's easier and I feel I still remember some stuff from highschool (tough that was almost 20 years ago), I'm waiting for the confirmation on a job in Paris and I wondered how useful would this method be. I am trying additional sources to increase my chances of getting a hold of some, at least little, fluency.
It's definitely harder when you turn off the mic and headphones option off. It helps me to speak to a good friend of mine when she doesn't know any English and only speaks German. Skype is a wonderful tool to learn how exactly they say things.
Hey, that is a lot of words! About 1,721 more words than Danke. :) Awesome!
I have been enjoying German too and when I was between level 1 and maybe 10, it was really enjoyable, but now I am at level 13 and getting into difficult sentence structures and so forth, which are quite a challenge for me! But I am keeping at it and trying to get things to "stick" in my brain! Good luck to you!
Well done, man! Did you have some basic german lessons? Like school subject or anything? Because I started from zero and feeling lost a bit
I had one year of German in high school, about 25 years ago (and that just made me feel really old). I remembered a handful of words from that, but nothing major, but I did remember most of the present tense verb conjugations, as well as how to conjugate "sein" which I'm sure did help me in the beginning a bit. But that's it. I can see how not having those would make it even more difficult.
Rizafk, don't worry about feeling a bit lost. I have seen this happen to many people on DuoLingo with learning German, including me! :) Keep practicing and repeating some lessons that do not seem to make sense. Practice is good! :)
Thank you man! Really appreciate that :) I might as well find another source of learning, good luck to you to!
Thanks! And supplementing your DuoLingo with other sources is a great thing to do, absolutely. : ) There is a German guy, Dominik, on YouTube who does lots of different beginner videos for German language learners. I love this guy. His "show" is called Get Germanized! I have learned some extra stuff with these videos and they are a nice help. There is so much out there to utilize for help. Good luck back to you!
Hey, great!! Glad you like those! Enjoy and have fun learning! Just as a side note, in case you already noticed, some of Dominik's videos on the Get Germanized channel are more about daily life in Germany, and some fun culture stuff, but you can find lots of actual German lessons he gives and those are so helpful. Here are some lingots to help you build up your stash so you can spend some in your DuoLingo store. :D
Thank you sooo much for your gift :D !! Somehow I cannot reply to your other comment, but it sure did make me motivated! Thank you for your generosity :DD!
No problem, you are welcome! Yeah, about that no reply option I have seen...that has happened to me too! Someone says something to me on the forum and when I want to reply, there is no reply feature available. I am not sure why that happens sometimes!?
Congratulations! I am somewhere in the middle of the German track, but learned from my recently completed Hungarian to English, that the sooner you complete the class, the lower the level you are on. I completed English with level 10 and now I should take some time to practice and get to higher levels! Strange logic, isn't it?
It seems strange, but it makes sense if you think about it. It's easy to complete these lessons without really picking up everything you can. What I would do is finish a lesson, and in many cases if I didn't feel comfortable with it, I would go back and do more practice with it before moving on. It took a lot longer to finish the tree that way, but I feel like I got more out of it. Some of them, like the adverbs, I still have a hard time with.
I agree. I am almost to level 14 but I know I will probably end up in the 20ish section of the tree before I finish. Lots of things I keep going back over and reviewing, every day. Also, I make sure to notice when some of my tree circles revert back to their original color and I go back to refresh those and turn them gold again.
So my tree will take a long time to finish. I would rather finish the tree later than sooner if it means I will soak up more and retain more from my learning. I am not in a big hurry. :)
no long way just keep your streak and you will see how this can be quickly :) Good Luck Seratopia
Super!. Nachdem siebzehnte Niveau, wie fühlen Sie sich? Sprechen Sie Deutsch fließend nun? und wieviele Wörter haben Sie gelernt?
Ich bin sehr glücklich, aber ich bin nicht fließend nun. Duolingo sagt, ich habe 1722 Wörter gelernt. Ich glaube das nicht. Ich denke, dass ich kann wahrscheinlich 500 Wörter benutzen. Das ist eine Vermutung.
You will also be getting tips from a native German: “aber ich bin nicht fließend nun”: “nun” is high level language, and a bit old-fashioned. In everyday language, everyone uses “jetzt”. Both words aren't placed at the end of a sentence like in English. But in this sentence, a German would say “aber ich bin noch nicht fließend” or “ich kann Deutsch noch nicht fließend”, since to say “Ich bin fließend” is rather uncommon, one would rather say “Ich kann [Sprache] fließend.” “dass ich kann wahrscheinlich 500 Wörter benutzen”: The conjunction “dass” requires a subordinate clause, meaning that the verb is not in the second place, but at the end of the sentence. So your sentence would probably be: “Ich denke, dass ich wahrscheinlich 500 Wörter benutzen kann.” When estimating, better use “vielleicht”: “Ich denke, dass ich vielleicht 500 Wörter benutzen kann.”
Vielen Dank! Even though I know I've learned some of the language, I know that there's still so much left to learn and master. Word order is so difficult for me! I even knew that rule, but still got it wrong.
And I didn't know that about "nun" vs. "jetzt". I will definitely remember that. what would be a proper use of "wahrscheinlich" then?
When you would say “probably” in English, i.e. when something is not that improbable. :D It’s fine how you did it.
Some tips from me as a native German: “nachdem” is an adverb, meaning “after” or “after that”. What you mean is “Nach dem siebzehnten Level” (in computer games, level is always Leve). And “nun” is high level language, in everyday German “jetzt” is used, and it isn't placed at the end of a sentence. In this example, I would say “Sprichst du Deutsch jetzt fließend?” (On the Internet, one usually says “Du” to each other)
Great tips! Dankeschön, das ist hilfreich. Ich mag, dass du uns immer korrigieren wirst.
Guten Tag! Congrats on your tree man, I just got started on German last night and so far really love the language and reading some of the comments I feel more encouraged to pursue this ^-^ Just out of curiosity, why learn Irish? From what I understand it's not vey common of a language at all .-. not hating or anything like that ~ just maybe you have a different perspective on it then I do. Danke Schone!
No, it's a good question. I'm an American, but much of my family comes from Ireland. The music, accent, scenery, history has always fascinated me (in fact, for many years now I've played bass in an Irish band). Add to that the fact that I tend to be drawn to more "less common" things in general, and it's almost like how could I NOT at least give it a try?
Hey, the other language I'd like to see on here is Uzbek, if that tells you anything.
Good luck on German--it's an interesting language, but it can get pretty difficult and complicated at times. Just know that I and many others made it through to the other side, and you can too. Things do finally start to make sense!
OK - ich bin durch und durch deutsch und freue mich für dich, das du es geschafft hast. Ich mache einen Kurs in Englisch und einen Kurs in Französisch. Englisch hatte ich schon in der Schule, hab es aber ein bisschen verpasst an der Sprache zu arbeiten.
The problem for me isn't so much the grammar (not saying I won't have a brain fart but given a few seconds I can get it right) but trying to remember abstract vocabulary: Ausnahme, Aufnahme, Annahme, Ausgabe, Aufgabe, Angabe...
Checking dictionaries doesn't help. Most of these words seem to have at least twenty different meanings of which would be very different concepts in English so it's hard to know which is the most common definition of each word.