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"How is your sweet?"

Translation:Conas atá do mhilseán?

January 20, 2015



Why is it "ata" (can't do the accent mark) in this instance? Is it because of it being a question?


Yes. Questions in Irish contain an implied copula and thus require a relative clause (which type is dependent upon the question)


Dia duit Gaillimh. Cén aois atá tú?


Could the answer also be "Conas ata bhur mhilsean"? What's the difference between the "yours"?


"Bhur" is the plural, sort of like "y'all" in English. So you could say "conas atá bhur mhilseán", though that would mean several people are sharing one sweet.


If you did translate it that way, it would have to be conas atá bhur milseán. bhur doesn't lenite the next word; it eclipses it.


My brain just exploded. I can't.


Good catch! Thanks!


So why is "Cad é mar atá" not acceptable? Bias against Ulster Irish?


Is cad e not what?


I am quite confused, is milseán masculine or not? It's lenited here but not in other sentences, even after a definite article.


Milseán is masculine, so it's not lenited after an.

But all nouns are lenited after do, regardless of gender. Mo, do and a (his) lenite. Ár, bhur and a (their) eclipse, or add n- if the word begins with a vowel. A (her) does nothing, or adds h- if the word begins with a vowel. None of this is affected by gender.

  • mo mhilseán, do mhilseán, a mhilseán / a milseán
  • ár milseán, bhur milseán, a milseán

m doesn't eclipse, so here's a word beginning with a letter that does:

  • mo bhainne, do bhainne, a bhainne / a bainne
  • ár mbainne, bhur mbainne, a mbainne

For a word beginning with a vowel:

  • m'éan, d'éan, a éan /a héan
  • ár n-éan, bhur n-éan, a n-éan


Thank you SO MUCH! This clarifies the whole mess all at once!


milis means sweet. So Mhilis should be the lenition for sweet. It's also at the top of the list for translations when you mouse over the word "sweet", so how/why is that wrong??


milis is the adjective "sweet". Milseán is the noun.


Ah, that makes sense. Go raibh maith agat!


Umm... Is this a term of endearment?


Why wont it take caidé mar atá do mhilsean


Because nobody has used the "Report" option to ask them to add that Donegal version as an acceptable answer.


why can't it also be 'conas ata do mhilseain' (sorry no fadas) - like how are your (single person) sweets? Sweets, in this case, meaning candy because desert/sweet, I understand, is milseog.


Because it says "how is your sweet", not "how are your sweets". In Ireland and Britain (where we call "candy" sweets), "sweet" is singular, and "sweets" is plural. milseán = "sweet", milseáin = sweets. Also, if you're on a Windows PC, you can get the fada by pressing the alt key at the same time as the letter you want to put it on.


Go raibh maith agat. How do you translate 'how are your (singular) sweets', le do thoil?


The sentence here is "you" (singular). "you" (plural) is conas atá bhur milseáin - with eclipsis, not lenition.


sorry, i may not have made myself clear. How do you translate 'how are your sweets' ?
In this case, I am talking to a single person about their sweets. Should it be - conas ata do mhilseain? Fadas still not working.


Yes, that is correct. Just to reiterate, it wouldn't work as a translation for this sentence, as it pretty unambiguously says "your sweet"/do mhilseán!


Does Irish consider [áéíóú] different letters from [aeiou] or are they considered the same letters plus an accent? E.g. in French, [eéèë] are all the same letter, but in Spanish [nñ] are different letters.


What sound does "mh" give?


In this case sounds like V


But often in Donegal it sounds like a W. So does bh sometimes.


I can't translate this any other way than how is your sweetheart . Sorry

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    Why does the verb "atá" not come before everything else?


    Because this is a question and it starts with an interrogative, conas.


    Táim chorra bhuaiseach leis an abairt seo, ni féidir liom mo hintinn a déanamh suas cad é a tam ceart an seimhiu a chuir isteach focail in aon abairt. Má tá an ainmfhocail firinscneach ná baininscneach ? Tá ro-morán riailachta ann.


    Níl a fhios agam cad is brí le "chorra bhuaiseach". Úsáidtear séimiú tar éis na n-aidiachtaí sealbhacha uatha mo, do agus a/"his".

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      Oh, my. It's difficult to know when to use the eclipsis and which variation of the eclipsis to use, b, h bh, m, mh!! Oh, my!!! It's beginning to get a little confusing.


      mhilseán is an example of lenition, not eclipsis. Lenition is indicated by putting h after a consonant, and it modifies the sound of the consonant.

      Words that start with m can't be eclipsed. Eclipsis involves placing a letter before the first letter in a word. The eclipsing letter replaces the eclipsed letter in pronunciation. Words that start with b, such as bean or buachaill or bord are eclipsed by m - leis an mbean, ag an mbuachaill, ar an mbord.


      I am confused at this (admittedly elementary) point between eclipsis and lenition.


      Why isn't it cá bhfuil na milseáin


      cá bhfuil na milseáin? means "where are the sweets?"


      What the difference between cade and conas


      Why can't I say "Cad atá to mhilseán"?


      You can say cad atá do mhilseán ag déanamh?, if you want to ask "what is your sweet doing?".

      But cad atá do mhilseán? is grammatically incomplete, it doesn't mean anything.


      why cant it be "ce go bhfuil do mhilsean?" isn't it the same as " conas ata do mhilsean?"?

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