https://www.duolingo.com/hatsunori

A beginner's question

Hello everyone, I am a beginner for Duolingo and love it deeply. I think I will keep practicing with it for the next years. I just have a problem recently. I found it is hard for me to learn new sections as well as review my old sections. I found more previous sections became fade (not gold) so I have to practice them. However, I have limited time to keep moving forward. May I know how a word is considered to become "weak". Ps. I have only about 1 hr per/day to learn it. What is the average time for people who finish the tree?

3 years ago

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https://www.duolingo.com/ElimGarak

It is different for everybody. I just finished my tree today. I think it is better to review the grammar rules from StudySpanish and write them down so that you can study them offline. Then when it comes time to learn the lessons online, it'll be more like a pop quiz / review of what you learned. The algorithm pays close attention to the words that cause you trouble and tends to present them to you often. The longer you go without getting them wrong, the longer the tree stays gold and doesn't get ungold.

3 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/hatsunori

thanks. That is what I exactly need. I did make too many mistakes so they are easily fade~~ I will make a note for my classes.

3 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/DeutscheMaus
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Elim, congrats on finishing your tree! Are you planning to start a new language or are you thinking of doing the reverse Spanish tree now?

3 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/ElimGarak

Thanks! I haven't decided what to do next. Go back through the Spanish tree, identify my weaknesses and strengthen them (demonstratives, for instance, this, that, these, those - I always confuse them.) or try my hand at the reverse tree (though I suspect that my grasp of more complex Spanish isn't strong enough for that) or try another language (I know that Portuguese is similar to Spanish, but I have a German friend who showed me that his language was far more elegant than my television had led me to believe.) With Spanish, I had three years worth of classes as a foundation - I didn't learn anything new from the tree. I only reviewed what I had long ago forgotten. With other languages, I won't have that foundation - but fortunately the internet is much better now about making up the difference. If I were to choose German, do you know of any sites like SpanishDict and StudySpanish, only for German?

3 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/DeutscheMaus
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Hmm, I am not familiar with SpanishDict and StudySpanish actually. I should check them out! The only regular internet supplement I watch is a YouTube channel called Get Germanized! and the rest is random bits and pieces I find on the internet to help with my listening skills...along with supplements like library books! (I know...I must be the only human left on Earth who uses good ole fashioned books, ha ha). You can probably do tons more on cementing your Spanish though, as you mentioned, by doing a reverse tree and going back through it, unless you feel you already have the entire tree pretty much solidified!

3 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/ElimGarak

I have a small collection of Spanish textbooks, but I find that DuoLingo is far easier because it gives me feedback where and how I'm wrong. Textbooks can't really do that. The advantage of textbooks is that they will still work when the power and internet are out. I guess it is better to have a variety of resources than to depend on just one thing.

3 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/DeutscheMaus
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Yes, I do not work heavily with textbooks, only as a backup for certain grammar rules I want to double check on, etc. And it is nice to have something I can soak up when I am not at a computer or do not have my ipod with me. ;)

3 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/MaggiePye
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An hour a day is quite a bit of work on this! Also, there is no deadline for finishing the tree; do it in your own time. I don't have a lot of time (and I am working on three languages, though two are just "review" and I skipped over a lot of them), so my goal for each day is to review (get all my previous lessons gold again, or do a "strengthen your skills" exercise if they're all gold when I launch Duolingo) and then, if I have time, to do one new lesson. In the language that is new for me, I find that gives me enough time to actually learn the new words, rather than overloading my brain.

I want to finish all three trees, of course, but I figure I will get there when I get there. There's no hurry.

3 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/DeutscheMaus
DeutscheMaus
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That sounds like a great routine!

3 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/MaggiePye
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I taught languages for ten years (a long time ago, so my Spanish and French are rusty) and I always used to emphasize to my students that doing it a little at a time was going to be the most effective way. (Well, the MOST effective way is total immersion, but that's not practical for most people.)

3 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/DeutscheMaus
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Yes, agreed. :)

3 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Matuhar
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One hour a day is quite a lot. In my case: I make sure I have everything golden before I move on to next sections. (which get's harder when you have more of them unlocked, haha). Yes, I guess it's made that way, so you renew you knowledge and not forget those words.

3 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/DeutscheMaus
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I do that too. When I see a circle turn back to its original color, I know it is time for me to go back and review through that lesson and turn the circle back to gold, so it stays with me and I don't forget what I learned.

3 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/rachelrypkema

Hmm. Maybe I'm just weird, but I get happy when I see a gold bubble turn color because then I get the chance to use my timed practice which gives me a max of 20 xp instead of 10. Plus, I like reviewing so much more than learning new vocab...hahaha ok am I alone in liking to get more xp? It kind of gives me a strange satisfaction

3 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/DeutscheMaus
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Rachel, no you are not weird at all! I think reviewing is very rewarding, because you not only feel like you are cementing in your brain the things you have learned but it does feel great to go over older material and realize that you HAVE learned a lot. And yes, the xp is also wonderful. :) I review and strengthen skills far more often than going through brand new stuff...the new stuff is not going anywhere so I can take my time. :)

3 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/rachelrypkema

yes same here!

3 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/hatsunori

t hat is a good attitude.

3 years ago
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