https://www.duolingo.com/profile/knos15

Immersion

There is seriously no good reason to down vote all those translations.

I will be staying clear from immersion from now on. I went from 90% positive to 52% in a matter of hours for simple, one word translations that someone decided to down vote. Now, unless my translation was drastically wrong, I would have have accepted it, but they are not. Well, the spelling of the word "surprize" could be argued, but it conveys the same meaning.

Article link: https://www.duolingo.com/translation/655f611fbf639f4f8ecb36eaa7611b78$index=4

January 25, 2015

20 Comments


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/connorhay12

There are a few people at lower levels that think it is funny to do this. I was always having people randomly down-voting my translations for no reason. Once you reach about level 3-4, all the random down-votes seem to stop. You just have to stick with it until then. Good luck with your studies!

January 25, 2015

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/SarahBecraft

Trolls are gonna troll, rise above them til you're higher level and they can't troll you anymore!

January 25, 2015

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/knos15

Thanks man!

January 25, 2015

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/connorhay12

No problem! If you put a link go the article you translated, I can go and up vote some of your translations.

January 25, 2015

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/knos15

I linked the article in the discussion

January 25, 2015

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/connorhay12

I went through and up voted some of your translations, but I don't know if it helped any because someone else had already up voted them before me.

January 25, 2015

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/knos15

Thanks again man

January 25, 2015

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/AureliaUK

Malicious downvoting like this seems to be becoming more frequent than it was. I don't recall it being such a problem when I started translating from Spanish back in April (?) 2014. It happened, yes, but not as much as it seems to now.

Unfortunately I think the problem will only get worse as DL seeks to attract more schools, which obviously means more kids and teenagers. This childish, malicious pettiness smacks of the playground to me.

January 25, 2015

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/ceaer

I uploaded and translated the rest of that article, and all of my translations were downvoted as well. Someone apparently decided to be a troll and downvote every single sentence in that document, without commenting on or correcting anything. I corrected the "suprize" misspelling but didn't downvote it; I upvoted all your other translations last night when I was checking the article.

Is this the sort of thing we can report to abuse@duolingo? I don't know if there are records on the back end of things that show who did the downvoting, but perhaps they could at least take away the malicious downvotes from kemarsmall's record?

January 25, 2015

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/knos15

Haha thanks man. I saw that you changed the surprise thing. I accepted that it was wrong.

January 25, 2015

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/ceaer

I e-mailed abuse@duolingo about it, we'll see if they can do anything.

January 25, 2015

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Dan-NYC

According to Duo's guidelines, A down vote is only if you know it is wrong but do not know how to correct it. Surprise should not have been down voted

January 25, 2015

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Carldean21

With respect to the immersion system, there needs to be some weighting. Each vote should have a weight based on how long the person has been here and how long they have been working on languages. I think this would more or less solve the problem. The more time you put into your account the less likely you are to abuse the system. Also, forcing a comment on downvoting and disabling pasting would go a long way to discourage the practice. The more work a troll has to do, the less likely they are to troll.

Thoughts?

January 26, 2015

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Luscinda

No. When downvotes carried more weight, no one was prepared to use them (apart from trolls). So it's keep them as they are or abolish them. And the length of time here/level of activity doesn't automatically equate with greater knowledge (as we've seen when people troll/graffiti immersion). And as far as pasting is concerned, there are some diacritics I have never been able to persuade my keyboard to produce, so I copy and paste them. I can't believe I'm the only one who needs the facility.

I think the leaving comments thing only ups the ante much of the time. So often they sound insultingly condescending and infuriating (and are frequently misinformed).

January 26, 2015

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Carldean21

"And the length of time here/level of activity doesn't automatically equate with greater knowledge (as we've seen when people troll/graffiti immersion)."

Note, I completely avoided this as a reason because it does not logically follow. However, the more time you put into the account, the less likely you are to abuse the system, since a deleted account, especially in your case, would result in a lot of lost recorded work.

"And as far as pasting is concerned, there are some diacritics I have never been able to persuade my keyboard to produce, so I copy and paste them. I can't believe I'm the only one who needs the facility."

I assume here you know about changing your keyboard layout. You should be able to change between multiple keyboard layouts. Obviously, I only need the US alternate layout for the Spanish accents...but I would imagine there are numerous keyboard layouts out there (my linux OS listed them in well over a hundred languages...so I assume there are hundreds of such layouts). Even if you can't find everything you need in one layout...you should be able to have multiple keyboards to toggle between to use when you are working in a specific language.

"I think the leaving comments thing only ups the ante much of the time. So often they sound insultingly condescending and infuriating (and are frequently misinformed)."

"Ups the ante"...I think that is what we want...maybe you take the comments a little too seriously?

You seem a little frustrated yourself. Maybe chill out a little?

January 26, 2015

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/DavidSinghiser

Yeah, don't give up. I had some problems too, but not as bad. It's worth it.

January 25, 2015

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/writchie4

Sorry this happened to you, it's a shame that people do this kind of thing. I've upvoted the ones you noted above.

With respect to "suprize", I've never seen it spelled without the first 'r'. That probably explains the downvote there. Also, if you're going to revert a translation back to a previous one, it's best to edit and leave a note explaining why. It's not foolproof (obviously), but people tend to respond better when you justify your changes with an explanation.

January 25, 2015

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Luscinda

I wondered whether you had overtyped someone else with identical translations, but no. It looks like a troll. You seem to be getting the upvotes now, though.

January 25, 2015

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Talca

Hey, s is near z on the keyboard...I am sorry someone downvoted your correct translations. But I am really happy that you reported it here. ¬°Buena idea!

January 25, 2015

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/rdl_ball25

yo... you look like a trap god jr the second go any on the market

January 26, 2015
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