any advice on how to learn this? i literally dont know how you guys do it, i just end up making V sounds or helicopter noises
In most dialects it's a trilled R, not a guttural R. So it's like the Spanish or Italian R, not the French R. I've been having a hard time making a trilled R. The closest approximation I've found has been saying the English word trotting. The double tap of the tongue to behind the teeth is roughly equivalent.
There are a mess of videos on YouTube about making a trilled R.
You'll just have to keep at it unfortunately. Keep in mind it can seem difficult because if you grew up only speaking English, it's not in ANY English word. But people who roll their Rs have the exact same tongue muscles as anyone else. I remember the Spanish sentence for practicing this: "Rapido ruedan los carros de azucar del ferrocarril." Or something like that. Keep trying and good luck!
The most important is to learn how to roll (vibrate) the tip of your tongue. Once you learn it, you'll have no problems using "rolling r" in words. It is not that difficult actually. :)
A simple way to try is to put the tip of your tongue on the hard palate, touch it lightly right behind your teeth and breathe out really fast. The faster you breathe out, the easier it gets. The air from your lungs will vibrate the tongue and you'll make the sound. You don't vibrate the tongue by muscles, so the tip of your tongue has to be relaxed.
its kinda hard to write it down.. its kinda like rlrlrlrlrlrlrl i guess...
One of the videos i watched about it suggested starting with the word three and rolling the r as your tongue moves from the front of the mouth for the "th" to the back for the "ee".. this i've found to be useul. i'll get there in the end :p
ok thanks people some good advice there... Mark- that makes sense, it almost sounds like im rolling it when i say trotting, but i think im rolling the tr rather than the r. Dogepamyu - im not American, im English.. and why does English language have an American flag duolingo?! the clue is in the name! But thanks for the second comment, that was really helpful :) Jace- ty i will watch them over the course of the day when i get time. Jamie - again really helpful :) Danny - thanks for the encouragement
....Oh my goodness i just did it! it's all about the tongue position and letting the exhalation of breath do the work it seems... you guys are awesome i really thought i'd never get it, you've taught me in 10 minutes... now to practice ;)