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New and improved Italian tree!

Today all of you Italian language learners will get a new Italian tree! Over the past few weeks, we tested these updates with about 25% of all Duolingo Italian learners. We've made some changes based on what we discovered and improved the language learning experience as a result. :)

So, what have we added?

  • More useful words such as: benzina = gas/gasoline (for your car); liceo = high school; coraggio = courage; and of course... gelato = ice-cream :)

  • Common phrases such as: Where does this bus go? or Nice to meet you!

What have we modified?

  • Combined the SIZES and MEASUREMENTS skills.

  • Moved certain words to skills where they make more sense.

What have we gotten rid of?

  • The ‘congiuntivo trapassato’ skill, a particularly advanced subjunctive tense that isn’t essential.

  • Words that we’ve found aren’t as important as the new vocab we’ve included: espansione (expansion), vertice (peak), and others.

If you've finished the Italian tree, you’ll notice that you'll have to return to some skills where we’ve added lessons and complete the new additions to the tree. It means more practice and learning for you. As always, please let us know your thoughts!

August 8, 2013

81 Comments


https://www.duolingo.com/Viaggiatore

Bring back my congiuntivo trapassato!

August 8, 2013

https://www.duolingo.com/apfelwaehe

Second this.

August 9, 2013

https://www.duolingo.com/hybridpro

i'll Third that

August 9, 2013

https://www.duolingo.com/Thoughtdiva

"Per favore" ;) The congiuntivo trapassato was a doozy. It is useful to have challenging grammar to practise, and satisfying to finally achieve it, but it was problematic. There are so many potential translations in English that I found I had to write down some of Duo's in order to pass it in a timely manner. Having said that, I would quite like to be able to re-visit it to help my fluency with it. Hopefully since then it has had more input from users.

August 9, 2013

https://www.duolingo.com/dnovinc

I couldn't agree more.

August 11, 2013

https://www.duolingo.com/paulmacd

What is a "doozy"?

August 9, 2018

https://www.duolingo.com/jerseydanlingo

Why would they get rid of a whole verb tense?

August 12, 2013

https://www.duolingo.com/mario.a

Yes, please!

August 9, 2013

https://www.duolingo.com/ziggKogg

Yeah! Time to get to Work!

August 8, 2013

https://www.duolingo.com/kristinemc

:)

August 8, 2013

https://www.duolingo.com/Thoughtdiva

Somebody stole my trophy!! But actually I'm glad to have concrete goals to work towards again :)

August 9, 2013

https://www.duolingo.com/Michael_EF

Duolingo is awesome.

August 9, 2013

https://www.duolingo.com/pamec

we think so too.

August 9, 2013

https://www.duolingo.com/tony

Thanks!

August 9, 2013

https://www.duolingo.com/Lilylolly0

Hey, you only just realized that? ;)

August 10, 2013

https://www.duolingo.com/PollyGlott

Gelato for congiuntivo trapassato - that's a fair swap! Mille grazie!

August 8, 2013

https://www.duolingo.com/Veillantif

When do we get Italian speaking exercises?

August 10, 2013

https://www.duolingo.com/bzbear2

yes, when?!

August 30, 2013

https://www.duolingo.com/xiongnu1987

I'm confused, why would you want to get rid of words?

August 9, 2013

https://www.duolingo.com/ckyle8

One of the skill sets toward the end of the tree was for a verb form that's less frequently used. It's still important to learn, but its absence is less likely to cripple you in a conversation.

August 9, 2013

https://www.duolingo.com/h0w412d

Just one lesson and I get the "skill completed" fanfare. Awesome!

August 9, 2013

https://www.duolingo.com/emilyhellard

my thoughts exactly =P

August 9, 2013

https://www.duolingo.com/scotthannigan

Is it possible to return the 'congiuntivo trapassato' skill and perhaps make it optional? This would enable the serious language learners to grapple with the challenges they desire and leave the dabblers to practice their 'nice to meet you' phrases to their hearts' content.

August 23, 2013

https://www.duolingo.com/infinitum17

Thank you!!!

August 9, 2013

https://www.duolingo.com/MABBY

Wow. I finished my lesson and suddenly there were multiple holes in my previous lessons! I am eager to see how the new lessons work, and if they prepare me for the more difficult concepts that are upcoming.

August 8, 2013

https://www.duolingo.com/xiongnu1987

Considering they just said they swapped out difficult grammar and higher level words for less grammar and lower level words, how would you consider them as "more difficult concepts"?

August 9, 2013

https://www.duolingo.com/oktaya

I think he meant he finished one chapter and you thought he meant the whole tree. If this is true I know what both of you are saying better than yourselves - which is unlikely.

August 15, 2013

https://www.duolingo.com/Screechymi

Thank you!

August 8, 2013

https://www.duolingo.com/GeneDavison

Awesome, even more Italian to work with. Thanks for all the hard work over there!

August 8, 2013

https://www.duolingo.com/SamHansen

Awesome! At first I was a bit taken aback, but now I am enjoying the new lessons as I review my skills.

August 8, 2013

https://www.duolingo.com/ckyle8

Thanks for the update. A lot of these do seem important to know, though "pinguino" got a laugh out of me.

August 9, 2013

https://www.duolingo.com/TheMrJonDavis

All my skills were gold. And now they're not :( Back to work!

August 9, 2013

https://www.duolingo.com/cloclo15

Thanks, certainly finding the earlier lessons quick to get through which shows how much I ave learned, but I've already forgotten the word for bed sheets!

August 9, 2013

https://www.duolingo.com/kristinemc

You'll have to go back and practice :)

August 9, 2013

https://www.duolingo.com/elioty

yes, please bring back the congiuntivo trapassato!

August 27, 2013

https://www.duolingo.com/NietzscheanFish

Great, thanks for the improvements!

August 9, 2013

https://www.duolingo.com/Curlygirly

This explains the numerous holes in my super-well-tended Italian tree!!! I am grateful for the thoughtful improvements, but it was a shock...

August 9, 2013

https://www.duolingo.com/Anemona11

I had the same reaction. And I had given until the end of the month to go through it. But I got through those new lessons and get stronger for it. :)

August 9, 2013

https://www.duolingo.com/Marhes01

Thank you! Realize that I have improved my Italian when going back and repeating or doing the new lessons. Awesome...Keep it up!

August 9, 2013

https://www.duolingo.com/hybridpro

Back in gold..back to practice..thanks for all the "parole nuove"!

August 9, 2013

https://www.duolingo.com/timion-joon

Thank you.

August 9, 2013

https://www.duolingo.com/Ogre

Just when I start using an already brilliant service, it gets an upgrade! And for the language I'm learning :) Thanks guys!

August 13, 2013

https://www.duolingo.com/mchisena

Why would you take lessons away from learners? Even if it is irrelevant someone will still find it useful. If anything put it back somewhere where it does not have to be completed to move on, it'll just be extra learning.

August 16, 2013

https://www.duolingo.com/aspielman

The new tree seems to be mis-labelled as it still shows 'subj plu' for the skill containing lessons on the subjunctive perfect - or am I misunderstanding something?

October 27, 2013

https://www.duolingo.com/tony

This has been fixed, thanks for your feedback!

November 19, 2013

https://www.duolingo.com/LiamRowe

In an attempt to revive an old discussion, Could you please bring back the Congiuntivo Trapassato ;) - I fully understand that it's not a very common tense, but us serious learners would greatly benefit from it :)

December 27, 2013

https://www.duolingo.com/ruth-mac

That was a surprise!

August 8, 2013

https://www.duolingo.com/Alia_La_Canta

Thank you very much for the extra lessons! I'll set to work straight away :)

August 8, 2013

https://www.duolingo.com/Anemona11

I do like going back on acquired skills. All of a sudden, it seems easy. Love your changes.

August 9, 2013

[deactivated user]

    In terms of topics we've lost 3, there used to be 69 topic sections in the tree now theres only 66, :(

    August 9, 2013

    https://www.duolingo.com/Zach1337

    The stuff was just merged. It doesn't matter that there are less topics now. It's all still there.

    August 9, 2013

    https://www.duolingo.com/Rozarm

    Wow! more words and phrases to learn.

    August 9, 2013

    https://www.duolingo.com/Xievsarg

    Very nice, thank you !

    August 9, 2013

    https://www.duolingo.com/FoxtrotAlpha

    Fantastic, really enjoying the whole experience. It is like a really addictive game :)

    August 9, 2013

    https://www.duolingo.com/mina.naeem

    good work ... really it's awesome work thanks a lot
    those lessons help me .... it's affect on my Italian language positively

    later .... i'll continue standing Italian again in the Egyptian Italian cultural center ... i hope those lessons add to me a lot

    Thanks

    August 9, 2013

    https://www.duolingo.com/duoo

    Hey there! How are you people? Italian rocks :)

    August 9, 2013

    https://www.duolingo.com/ckyle8

    Si. :)

    August 9, 2013

    https://www.duolingo.com/Mar0612

    Well done!

    August 10, 2013

    https://www.duolingo.com/bluelatch

    Mi piace molto Duolingo! Grazie mille!

    August 10, 2013

    https://www.duolingo.com/bertyhell

    All my beautiful gold is gone :( the new tree is really pushing me to do more lessons to get the gold back :D

    August 11, 2013

    https://www.duolingo.com/sayonarahaiku

    i wish you'd left the imperfect subjunctive in!

    August 11, 2013

    https://www.duolingo.com/Viaggiatore

    The imperfect subjunctive is still there. It's rough.

    August 12, 2013

    https://www.duolingo.com/Thoughtdiva

    The skill removed was the pluperfect subjunctive (or past perfect subjunctive).

    August 23, 2013

    https://www.duolingo.com/olefattguy

    Awesome! Even MORE Italian for free! Thank you Duolingo, you rock!

    August 12, 2013

    https://www.duolingo.com/SaqlainAli

    Can you tell if the new Spanish design and skill tree be available for all users any time soon ?

    August 12, 2013

    https://www.duolingo.com/abokor999

    boun lavoro

    August 12, 2013

    https://www.duolingo.com/SDL_1987

    Grazie mille duolingo! :)

    August 12, 2013

    https://www.duolingo.com/milestogo

    Thanks for the update. When the Spanish tree was last updated, there was talk of "re-opening" the shortcuts so that the lessons distributed throughout a section of the tree (especially the early parts) don't have to be done individually (and could be done ideally all at once with one test at the end). Could this still be implemented?

    August 12, 2013

    https://www.duolingo.com/mukkapazza

    This is being worked on :)

    August 12, 2013

    https://www.duolingo.com/milestogo

    Great, thanks!

    August 12, 2013

    https://www.duolingo.com/colomrican95

    Thanks so much!

    August 13, 2013

    https://www.duolingo.com/azoolkool

    Good thing I'm only level 7! ;) I won't notice the differences, but they sound good to me!

    August 13, 2013

    https://www.duolingo.com/quanghung1996

    awesome !

    August 15, 2013

    https://www.duolingo.com/Sherry123

    I appreciate any help from Duo lingo

    August 16, 2013

    https://www.duolingo.com/ivoryflame

    I am tired of losing hearts just because I used an apostrophe for words like aren't instead of are not. Similarly, losing hearts because I used an English word for caramelle,( sweets not candies) biscotti ( biscuits not cookies) grrrrrrrrr...... It's driving me crazy!!!!

    September 11, 2013

    https://www.duolingo.com/laurenb2094

    oh great, more for me to do :D

    August 10, 2013

    https://www.duolingo.com/murilol

    \o/

    September 1, 2013

    https://www.duolingo.com/pescatoresam

    This new "tree" is terrible! Not an improvement at all.

    September 4, 2013

    https://www.duolingo.com/hlgillette

    Took a summer hiatus - glad to see there are more words once might use. Practically starting over. I wonder if there's still an ant in the sugar.

    September 26, 2013

    https://www.duolingo.com/seckhoff

    Where are the speaking exercises? I'm not learning this language by typing it!

    November 28, 2017

    https://www.duolingo.com/Jill250290

    Biscotti and biscuits both mean twice cooked and one should therefore be the translation of the other. Cookies are squishy, barely cooked over sweet American junk food.

    March 26, 2019
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