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New and improved Italian tree!

Today all of you Italian language learners will get a new Italian tree! Over the past few weeks, we tested these updates with about 25% of all Duolingo Italian learners. We've made some changes based on what we discovered and improved the language learning experience as a result. :)

So, what have we added?

  • More useful words such as: benzina = gas/gasoline (for your car); liceo = high school; coraggio = courage; and of course... gelato = ice-cream :)

  • Common phrases such as: Where does this bus go? or Nice to meet you!

What have we modified?

  • Combined the SIZES and MEASUREMENTS skills.

  • Moved certain words to skills where they make more sense.

What have we gotten rid of?

  • The ‘congiuntivo trapassato’ skill, a particularly advanced subjunctive tense that isn’t essential.

  • Words that we’ve found aren’t as important as the new vocab we’ve included: espansione (expansion), vertice (peak), and others.

If you've finished the Italian tree, you’ll notice that you'll have to return to some skills where we’ve added lessons and complete the new additions to the tree. It means more practice and learning for you. As always, please let us know your thoughts!

5 years ago

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https://www.duolingo.com/Viaggiatore

Bring back my congiuntivo trapassato!

5 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/apfelwaehe
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Second this.

5 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/hybridpro
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i'll Third that

5 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Thoughtdiva

"Per favore" ;) The congiuntivo trapassato was a doozy. It is useful to have challenging grammar to practise, and satisfying to finally achieve it, but it was problematic. There are so many potential translations in English that I found I had to write down some of Duo's in order to pass it in a timely manner. Having said that, I would quite like to be able to re-visit it to help my fluency with it. Hopefully since then it has had more input from users.

5 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/dnovinc
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I couldn't agree more.

5 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/paulmacd
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What is a "doozy"?

1 month ago

https://www.duolingo.com/jerseydanlingo

Why would they get rid of a whole verb tense?

5 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/mario.a
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Yes, please!

5 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/ziggKogg
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Yeah! Time to get to Work!

5 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/kristinemc

:)

5 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Thoughtdiva

Somebody stole my trophy!! But actually I'm glad to have concrete goals to work towards again :)

5 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Michael_EF

Duolingo is awesome.

5 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/pamec
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we think so too.

5 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/tony
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Thanks!

5 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Lilylolly0

Hey, you only just realized that? ;)

5 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/PollyGlott
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Gelato for congiuntivo trapassato - that's a fair swap! Mille grazie!

5 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Veillantif

When do we get Italian speaking exercises?

5 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/bzbear2

yes, when?!

5 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/xiongnu1987

I'm confused, why would you want to get rid of words?

5 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/ckyle8
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One of the skill sets toward the end of the tree was for a verb form that's less frequently used. It's still important to learn, but its absence is less likely to cripple you in a conversation.

5 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/h0w412d
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Just one lesson and I get the "skill completed" fanfare. Awesome!

5 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/emilyhellard

my thoughts exactly =P

5 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/scotthannigan

Is it possible to return the 'congiuntivo trapassato' skill and perhaps make it optional? This would enable the serious language learners to grapple with the challenges they desire and leave the dabblers to practice their 'nice to meet you' phrases to their hearts' content.

5 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/infinitum17

Thank you!!!

5 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/MABBY
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Wow. I finished my lesson and suddenly there were multiple holes in my previous lessons! I am eager to see how the new lessons work, and if they prepare me for the more difficult concepts that are upcoming.

5 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/xiongnu1987

Considering they just said they swapped out difficult grammar and higher level words for less grammar and lower level words, how would you consider them as "more difficult concepts"?

5 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/oktaya
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I think he meant he finished one chapter and you thought he meant the whole tree. If this is true I know what both of you are saying better than yourselves - which is unlikely.

5 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Screechymi

Thank you!

5 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/GeneDavison

Awesome, even more Italian to work with. Thanks for all the hard work over there!

5 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/SamHansen
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Awesome! At first I was a bit taken aback, but now I am enjoying the new lessons as I review my skills.

5 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/ckyle8
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Thanks for the update. A lot of these do seem important to know, though "pinguino" got a laugh out of me.

5 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/TheMrJonDavis

All my skills were gold. And now they're not :( Back to work!

5 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/cloclo15

Thanks, certainly finding the earlier lessons quick to get through which shows how much I ave learned, but I've already forgotten the word for bed sheets!

5 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/kristinemc

You'll have to go back and practice :)

5 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/elioty
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yes, please bring back the congiuntivo trapassato!

5 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/NietzscheanFish

Great, thanks for the improvements!

5 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Curlygirly

This explains the numerous holes in my super-well-tended Italian tree!!! I am grateful for the thoughtful improvements, but it was a shock...

5 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Anemona11

I had the same reaction. And I had given until the end of the month to go through it. But I got through those new lessons and get stronger for it. :)

5 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Marhes01
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Thank you! Realize that I have improved my Italian when going back and repeating or doing the new lessons. Awesome...Keep it up!

5 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/hybridpro
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Back in gold..back to practice..thanks for all the "parole nuove"!

5 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/timion-joon

Thank you.

5 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Ogre

Just when I start using an already brilliant service, it gets an upgrade! And for the language I'm learning :) Thanks guys!

5 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/mchisena

Why would you take lessons away from learners? Even if it is irrelevant someone will still find it useful. If anything put it back somewhere where it does not have to be completed to move on, it'll just be extra learning.

5 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/aspielman
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The new tree seems to be mis-labelled as it still shows 'subj plu' for the skill containing lessons on the subjunctive perfect - or am I misunderstanding something?

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/tony
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This has been fixed, thanks for your feedback!

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/LiamRowe
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In an attempt to revive an old discussion, Could you please bring back the Congiuntivo Trapassato ;) - I fully understand that it's not a very common tense, but us serious learners would greatly benefit from it :)

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/ruth-mac
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That was a surprise!

5 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Alia_La_Canta

Thank you very much for the extra lessons! I'll set to work straight away :)

5 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Anemona11

I do like going back on acquired skills. All of a sudden, it seems easy. Love your changes.

5 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Frazer93

In terms of topics we've lost 3, there used to be 69 topic sections in the tree now theres only 66, :(

5 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Zach1337

The stuff was just merged. It doesn't matter that there are less topics now. It's all still there.

5 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Rozarm

Wow! more words and phrases to learn.

5 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Xievsarg
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Very nice, thank you !

5 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/FoxtrotAlpha

Fantastic, really enjoying the whole experience. It is like a really addictive game :)

5 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/mina.naeem

good work ... really it's awesome work thanks a lot
those lessons help me .... it's affect on my Italian language positively

later .... i'll continue standing Italian again in the Egyptian Italian cultural center ... i hope those lessons add to me a lot

Thanks

5 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/duoo

Hey there! How are you people? Italian rocks :)

5 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/ckyle8
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Si. :)

5 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Mar0612

Well done!

5 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/bluelatch

Mi piace molto Duolingo! Grazie mille!

5 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/bertyhell
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All my beautiful gold is gone :( the new tree is really pushing me to do more lessons to get the gold back :D

5 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/sayonarahaiku

i wish you'd left the imperfect subjunctive in!

5 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Viaggiatore

The imperfect subjunctive is still there. It's rough.

5 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Thoughtdiva

The skill removed was the pluperfect subjunctive (or past perfect subjunctive).

5 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/olefattguy

Awesome! Even MORE Italian for free! Thank you Duolingo, you rock!

5 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/SaqlainAli

Can you tell if the new Spanish design and skill tree be available for all users any time soon ?

5 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/abokor999

boun lavoro

5 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/SDL_1987
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Grazie mille duolingo! :)

5 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/milestogo
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Thanks for the update. When the Spanish tree was last updated, there was talk of "re-opening" the shortcuts so that the lessons distributed throughout a section of the tree (especially the early parts) don't have to be done individually (and could be done ideally all at once with one test at the end). Could this still be implemented?

5 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/mukkapazza
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This is being worked on :)

5 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/milestogo
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Great, thanks!

5 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/riotpoof

Thanks so much!

5 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/azoolkool

Good thing I'm only level 7! ;) I won't notice the differences, but they sound good to me!

5 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/quanghung1996

awesome !

5 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Sherry123

I appreciate any help from Duo lingo

5 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/ivoryflame

I am tired of losing hearts just because I used an apostrophe for words like aren't instead of are not. Similarly, losing hearts because I used an English word for caramelle,( sweets not candies) biscotti ( biscuits not cookies) grrrrrrrrr...... It's driving me crazy!!!!

5 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/laurenb2094
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oh great, more for me to do :D

5 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/murilol

\o/

5 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/pescatoresam

This new "tree" is terrible! Not an improvement at all.

5 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/hlgillette

Took a summer hiatus - glad to see there are more words once might use. Practically starting over. I wonder if there's still an ant in the sugar.

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/seckhoff

Where are the speaking exercises? I'm not learning this language by typing it!

9 months ago