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New and improved Italian tree!

Today all of you Italian language learners will get a new Italian tree! Over the past few weeks, we tested these updates with about 25% of all Duolingo Italian learners. We've made some changes based on what we discovered and improved the language learning experience as a result. :)

So, what have we added?

  • More useful words such as: benzina = gas/gasoline (for your car); liceo = high school; coraggio = courage; and of course... gelato = ice-cream :)

  • Common phrases such as: Where does this bus go? or Nice to meet you!

What have we modified?

  • Combined the SIZES and MEASUREMENTS skills.

  • Moved certain words to skills where they make more sense.

What have we gotten rid of?

  • The ‘congiuntivo trapassato’ skill, a particularly advanced subjunctive tense that isn’t essential.

  • Words that we’ve found aren’t as important as the new vocab we’ve included: espansione (expansion), vertice (peak), and others.

If you've finished the Italian tree, you’ll notice that you'll have to return to some skills where we’ve added lessons and complete the new additions to the tree. It means more practice and learning for you. As always, please let us know your thoughts!

August 8, 2013

81 Comments


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Viaggiatore

Bring back my congiuntivo trapassato!


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Thoughtdiva

"Per favore" ;) The congiuntivo trapassato was a doozy. It is useful to have challenging grammar to practise, and satisfying to finally achieve it, but it was problematic. There are so many potential translations in English that I found I had to write down some of Duo's in order to pass it in a timely manner. Having said that, I would quite like to be able to re-visit it to help my fluency with it. Hopefully since then it has had more input from users.


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/dnovinc

I couldn't agree more.


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/paulmacd

What is a "doozy"?


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/danielwbeebe

Why would they get rid of a whole verb tense?


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/mario.a

Yes, please!


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/ziggKogg

Yeah! Time to get to Work!


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Thoughtdiva

Somebody stole my trophy!! But actually I'm glad to have concrete goals to work towards again :)


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Michael_EF

Duolingo is awesome.


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/pamec

we think so too.


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Lilylolly0

Hey, you only just realized that? ;)


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/PollyGlott

Gelato for congiuntivo trapassato - that's a fair swap! Mille grazie!


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Veillantif

When do we get Italian speaking exercises?


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/xiongnu1987

I'm confused, why would you want to get rid of words?


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/ckyle8

One of the skill sets toward the end of the tree was for a verb form that's less frequently used. It's still important to learn, but its absence is less likely to cripple you in a conversation.


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/h0w412d

Just one lesson and I get the "skill completed" fanfare. Awesome!


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/emilyhellard

my thoughts exactly =P


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/scotthannigan

Is it possible to return the 'congiuntivo trapassato' skill and perhaps make it optional? This would enable the serious language learners to grapple with the challenges they desire and leave the dabblers to practice their 'nice to meet you' phrases to their hearts' content.


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/MABBY

Wow. I finished my lesson and suddenly there were multiple holes in my previous lessons! I am eager to see how the new lessons work, and if they prepare me for the more difficult concepts that are upcoming.


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/xiongnu1987

Considering they just said they swapped out difficult grammar and higher level words for less grammar and lower level words, how would you consider them as "more difficult concepts"?


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/oktaya

I think he meant he finished one chapter and you thought he meant the whole tree. If this is true I know what both of you are saying better than yourselves - which is unlikely.


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/GeneDavison

Awesome, even more Italian to work with. Thanks for all the hard work over there!


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/SamHansen

Awesome! At first I was a bit taken aback, but now I am enjoying the new lessons as I review my skills.


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/ckyle8

Thanks for the update. A lot of these do seem important to know, though "pinguino" got a laugh out of me.


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/TheMrJonDavis

All my skills were gold. And now they're not :( Back to work!


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/cloclo15

Thanks, certainly finding the earlier lessons quick to get through which shows how much I ave learned, but I've already forgotten the word for bed sheets!


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/kristinemc

You'll have to go back and practice :)


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/elioty

yes, please bring back the congiuntivo trapassato!


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/NietzscheanFish

Great, thanks for the improvements!


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Curlygirly

This explains the numerous holes in my super-well-tended Italian tree!!! I am grateful for the thoughtful improvements, but it was a shock...


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Anemona11

I had the same reaction. And I had given until the end of the month to go through it. But I got through those new lessons and get stronger for it. :)


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Marhes01

Thank you! Realize that I have improved my Italian when going back and repeating or doing the new lessons. Awesome...Keep it up!


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/hybridpro

Back in gold..back to practice..thanks for all the "parole nuove"!


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Ogre

Just when I start using an already brilliant service, it gets an upgrade! And for the language I'm learning :) Thanks guys!


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/mchisena

Why would you take lessons away from learners? Even if it is irrelevant someone will still find it useful. If anything put it back somewhere where it does not have to be completed to move on, it'll just be extra learning.


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/aspielman

The new tree seems to be mis-labelled as it still shows 'subj plu' for the skill containing lessons on the subjunctive perfect - or am I misunderstanding something?


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/tony

This has been fixed, thanks for your feedback!


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/LiamRowe

In an attempt to revive an old discussion, Could you please bring back the Congiuntivo Trapassato ;) - I fully understand that it's not a very common tense, but us serious learners would greatly benefit from it :)


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/ruth-mac

That was a surprise!


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Alia_La_Canta

Thank you very much for the extra lessons! I'll set to work straight away :)


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Anemona11

I do like going back on acquired skills. All of a sudden, it seems easy. Love your changes.


[deactivated user]

    In terms of topics we've lost 3, there used to be 69 topic sections in the tree now theres only 66, :(


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Zach1337

    The stuff was just merged. It doesn't matter that there are less topics now. It's all still there.


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Rozarm

    Wow! more words and phrases to learn.


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Xievsarg

    Very nice, thank you !


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/FoxtrotAlpha

    Fantastic, really enjoying the whole experience. It is like a really addictive game :)


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/mina.naeem

    good work ... really it's awesome work thanks a lot
    those lessons help me .... it's affect on my Italian language positively

    later .... i'll continue standing Italian again in the Egyptian Italian cultural center ... i hope those lessons add to me a lot

    Thanks


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/duoo

    Hey there! How are you people? Italian rocks :)


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/bluelatch

    Mi piace molto Duolingo! Grazie mille!


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/bertyhell

    All my beautiful gold is gone :( the new tree is really pushing me to do more lessons to get the gold back :D


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/sayonarahaiku

    i wish you'd left the imperfect subjunctive in!


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Viaggiatore

    The imperfect subjunctive is still there. It's rough.


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Thoughtdiva

    The skill removed was the pluperfect subjunctive (or past perfect subjunctive).


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/olefattguy

    Awesome! Even MORE Italian for free! Thank you Duolingo, you rock!


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/SaqlainAli

    Can you tell if the new Spanish design and skill tree be available for all users any time soon ?


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/SDL_1987

    Grazie mille duolingo! :)


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/milestogo

    Thanks for the update. When the Spanish tree was last updated, there was talk of "re-opening" the shortcuts so that the lessons distributed throughout a section of the tree (especially the early parts) don't have to be done individually (and could be done ideally all at once with one test at the end). Could this still be implemented?


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/mukkapazza

    This is being worked on :)


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/milestogo

    Great, thanks!


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/azoolkool

    Good thing I'm only level 7! ;) I won't notice the differences, but they sound good to me!


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Sherry123

    I appreciate any help from Duo lingo


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/ivoryflame

    I am tired of losing hearts just because I used an apostrophe for words like aren't instead of are not. Similarly, losing hearts because I used an English word for caramelle,( sweets not candies) biscotti ( biscuits not cookies) grrrrrrrrr...... It's driving me crazy!!!!


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/laurenb2094

    oh great, more for me to do :D


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/pescatoresam

    This new "tree" is terrible! Not an improvement at all.


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/hlgillette

    Took a summer hiatus - glad to see there are more words once might use. Practically starting over. I wonder if there's still an ant in the sugar.


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/seckhoff

    Where are the speaking exercises? I'm not learning this language by typing it!


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Jill250290

    Biscotti and biscuits both mean twice cooked and one should therefore be the translation of the other. Cookies are squishy, barely cooked over sweet American junk food.

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