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Swedish Immersion Section

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Now that the Swedish course has made its way out of Beta, will an Immersion Section be added soon ?

3 years ago

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https://www.duolingo.com/Arnauti
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Last thing we heard is that none of the new languages will have immersion any time soon.

3 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/heimaey
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Boo but thanks for the update.

3 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/N30G3N
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The Swedish team is in the dark atm. The Duolingo team is having trouble with EU regulations. No ETA for immersion yet.

3 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Sarah.K.Ha
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Sorry, what are these EU regulations?

3 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/rkvance5
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EU regulations?

Edit: Just kidding, I found the article with the explanation. I don't quite see how that should stop, say, someone like myself (definitely not residing in the EU) from getting to use the translation feature. What prompts Duolingo to have the feature on their Portuguese course, but not Swedish or Dutch?

3 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/albernegiraffe

I wonder if it's related to the fact that Portuguese has a large number of speakers and texts outside of Europe while Sweden does not, so Duolingo doesn't really have any plausible deniability on any uploaded Swedish documents. Most of Duolingo's terms of service regarding the immersion section are probably violated from time to time. This is why they have you agree not to do things you're not supposed to (plausible deniability). Regardless of whether they want to or not it's not really possible for them to actually verify this. However, it is unreasonable for them to assume that texts in Swedish are mostly originating outside of Europe so they wouldn't really cover themselves legally simply by having the user claim that no EU regulations are being violated. This is my best guess at it, but it could be something totally different.

3 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/MissMuse
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So does this come down to a violation of fair use agreements or plagiarism or something like that? This seems very strange to me.

3 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/albernegiraffe

I think in a nutshell the EU just has much stricter copyright regulations.

3 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/aamirza216

Oh, I though it might have something to do with some translator's guild or union. Not sure what's wrong with translating some Wikipedia articles. :P

3 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Yerrick
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Perhaps it's along the lines that it's very difficult to verify whether any given uploaded document is owned or controlled by the uploader, but EU regulation requires such proof. The US doctrine of "Fair Use" generally doesn't exist elsewhere; the Commonwealth concept of "Fair dealing", for example, is much less comprehensive.

3 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/porpsi

sorry if this is explained somehwre else, i cant find it.. but what do you lot mean when you talk about immersion on here?

3 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/heimaey
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It's a function that allows you to translate essentially. You can get points for it and rise up in translation tiers/levels. It's only available for French, Spanish, Portuguese and Italian I think.

3 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Yerrick
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The original language pairs, such as Spanish-English and English-French, have whole articles, blog posts, recipes, and so on uploaded to be translated into users' native language from their learning language. This appears in a section labeled "Immersion", next to "Discussion", in the bar at the top of the site.

3 years ago