Is there a way to say "aunt" or "uncle" that's not specific to which parent they are related to?
So, if you wanted to say "I have several uncles", meaning on both the maternal as well as the paternal side, you'd be bound to say: "Jag har flera morbröder och farbröder"?
We feel those words are too old-fashioned in Swedish to be accepted in this course. We wouldn't want to lead people to believe that it's ok to use them, when it really isn't any more, except maybe jokingly or when trying to sound like a hundred years ago.
Yeah, I had a pretty similar discussion with Zmrzlina here: https://www.duolingo.com/comment/5709711$comment_id=7691485
The dictionary unfortunately does not show if words are in use anymore :D
We've discussed it in the group since Norwegian and Danish speakers often want to use these words, but we all agreed they sound too old-fashioned to be realistically used.
It seems a pity to let perfectly usable words become obsolete or thought to be too old when they fill a need to not be so specific and ease the lack of knowledge of the family relationship. Of course, I am ancient, and do not always appreciate the need to change to modern, especially when nothing fills in the hole left.
A word like onkel wasn't used when I grew up, and I've never even heard very old people use it (except jokingly or in special cases, like Onkel Toms stuga 'Uncle Tom's cabin'), so I don't really feel the loss. In fact, to me, keeping the traditional way of naming uncles as either morbror or farbror feels more valuable – rather than following the same pattern that exists in English or French. What I mean is that if we did use words like onkel (a loan word to begin with), we'd be at risk of losing our own words, which feel much more valuable to me. And when you grow up like I did within a system where you have to choose between farbror and morbror, I think you tend to get very used to that and not miss a neutral word. Like it seems that most native speakers of English don't miss a neutral verb form which would cover both present and present continuous.
Personally I feel the difference is "several" just means "more than two", while "many" specifically means a high number. So if someone had, say, three apples, you could say they had several apples, but it might be a bit of an exaggeration to call it many apples.
Yes, you can call him morbror. The versions with -broder sound very solemn and old-fashioned though, I don't think I've ever used them.
Chiming several years later, but sometimes, if needed be, I denote such a person as "ingift" (literal: in-married). So I'd say "min ingifte morbror" to denote my mother's sister's husband. Most often it's not necessary to do so, but it has been been needed from time to time and "ingift" is an acceptable way to define an aunt/uncle which isn't so by blood, only due to marriage.
Is there a pattern to this sort of thing? i'm having trouble keeping up with the different forms of uncle/aunt/mother/etc because I can't see a definite pattern
Mormor -> mother mother -> maternal grandmother; Farbror -> father brother -> paternal uncle; etc.
Sorry if it was already mentioned and i missed it, but what do you use when the "grandma" or "aunt" or whatever is more of a honorary title and they are actually not really your family?