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"Beaucoup de" vs. "Beaucoup des"

This might be more of a question about "de" vs. "des," but I don't understand why this sentence was: "Un livre a beaucoup de pages" instead of: "Un liver a beaucoup des pages." Merci!

November 27, 2012

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https://www.duolingo.com/profile/jpk6

Actually, "beaucoup des" is used in the following situations [pasted from thoughtco.com]:

The only time beaucoup de and the other adverbs of quantity can be followed by a definite article is when they are referring to something specific, as in these examples:

J'ai acheté une chemise dont beaucoup des boutons s'étaient détachés I bought a shirt that a lot of the buttons had come off of (I'm talking about the specific buttons on this particular shirt)

Beaucoup des idées de Jean-Luc sont intéressantes A lot of Jean-Luc's ideas are interesting (I'm not referring to ideas in general, but rather the specific ideas that Jean-Luc has)

In most cases, if you can translate the French as "a lot of the" + noun or "a lot of ___'s" + noun, you use the definite article. Otherwise, if you only say "a lot of" + noun in English, just use de. (There are undoubtedly exceptions to this rule, but it should help you in most cases.)


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/artistaitalcan

I am afraid the second explanation so far is unclear as it reads that beaucoup des and beaucoup de are both used before specific instances. On another site beaucoup de is used before aspecific instances and so indeterminate articles and beaucoup des is used before determinate ones. Please refer to the explanation in the francaisfacile.com site. https://www.francaisfacile.com/exercices/exercice-francais-2/exercice-francais-92176.php


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/01LearnFrench01

Here is how I remember it.

See: beaucoup de/des.

beaucoup d' : the nouns are unspecific and start with a vowel.

beaucoup de : the nouns are unspecific.

beaucoup des : the nouns are specific.

Is it clear now? Test yourself.


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/David536982

No, not clear at all. "Pages" are specific. Pages are not cats, or cups. Pages are specifically pages. So please clarify what you mean. Thank you.

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