My visit in Barcelona after finishing Spanish tree!
¡Hola a todos!
About a month ago I finished the Spanish tree and now I have just came back from my short holidays in Barcelona!
I want to share with you with my experiences:
READING: I could understand almost everything (of course in Spanish, not in Catalan), only sometimes I needed ask my Spanish speaking friend about some words. While reading the Spanish newspaper I could understand ~75% or even more of the text, so I was able to guess the point of the article :) As we all know, there are many similar words both in Spanish/English, so many times I could guess the meaning of words basing on my knowledge of English. :)
LISTENING: Spanish people speak very fast, with an accent, so sometimes it was hard to understand what they said, but usually I understood the main point.. Once a girl was describing some promotion/discount in the nearbly restaurant to my friend in Spanish, and although I didn't understand eveything what she said, I understood the idea of the discount, the prices etc.
SPEAKING: that was the hardest one.. Besides Doulingo I didn't have any practice. The first time I used my Spanish in real life was in Spain :) Anyway, when I was in Zara, looking for a coat in the specific size for my girlfriend, I was able to ask the shop assistant in Spanish about that and also uderstand the answer :)
I think that Doulingo is PERFECT for the basics and finishing the tree gives you very solid base for the next steps in education and improoving your language skills!
Now I try to focus on mastering my tree, then reading Spanish articles, watching shows and TV series, listening to podcasts and of course attending Spanish speaking meetings in my city :)
Keep learning friends! Keep having fun with Duolingo!
Eso es genial! Tal vez puedes practicar más hablar.
There are also language exchange programs online or maybe Google+. Buena suerte!
Tip: Spaniards probably think Méxicans, Puerto Ricans, Chileans and most of Latin America speak with an accent.
They absolutely do. When we visited Barcelona many people there thought I was Mexican (which I took as a complement to my spoken Spanish abilities - whether or not it was meant as one).
In spain anyone speaking spanish funny = latin american i.e. without an english accent. Also I think duolingo teaches South America flavor of Castellano.
Tienes doce AÑOS. No tienes doce ANOS. Please look up the difference between año and ano.
I am Colombian and Spaniards always make weird faces at those who speak with different accents,
That's great! I am very curious about how well people can manage in their target language at various points in their duolingo studies.
I have found doing Duolingo with pimmsleur works better for speaking. Pimmsleur's whole approach is maybe too speach driven, I started with it first I found that I could speak very well but when I wrote some spellings were just weird (funny associations the brain makes). But Duo has now fixed that. I still speak much better, can hardly read a book or write a letter. zumo es zumo ;D
I agree. I am about half way through my tree here on duolingo, and I am on lesson 18 of pimsluers Spanish 3. The spoken lessons are a great help to me, but I still feel that I need more personal interaction. If anyone out there is thinking about buying the pimsluer courses, don't buy the Spanish or the French without contacting me first. I can help you save a lot of money.
Yeah I'm pretty much at the same point (in both Duolingo and Pimsleur), and I think each makes up for the weaknesses of the other well, they're a good complement to each other. But it's also obvious that some proper immersion is required whatever the approach to study is.
Great to hear. Can I ask regarding Pimsluer please, I am in Pimsluer 1 chapter 28, and I am stuck with the past tense. As they teach it as "have you, I have", while I heard that in real life they only use the simple past tense without using the "have tense". I am finding difficulty moving forward knowing that what I am learning is not going to be used in real life. Do you have any insights to that please? Note: I didn't study the past tense in duolingo yet, I am moving slowly but comfortably. Thanks and best of luck, great achievement
I found the past tenses useful, the thing I found with pimmsleur is that you keep what you need and forget the rest. I thought of pimmsleur as passive learning, as I was not memorizing as much as just doing the 30mins daliy a repeating every word to the best of my ability. It is true that 'he' and 'ha' are not that used, han was useful.
Oh wow, I'm glad about 'he' and 'ha' because I've found it to be somewhat difficult to recognize them in speech.
Yeah, I think the lessons where they introduced the "have tense" (present perfect) were the hardest for me initially, but after that it gets used pretty sparingly apart from the odd lesson. I don't know anything about how common it is in real life but it's nice to know regardless. I'm halfway through Spanish 3 and the simple past (preterite) tense is now being used pretty extensively, and the imperfect past tense has been introduced.
It can seem arbitrary as to when Pimsleur introduces things, but I don't question it because as far as I'm concerned the method works really well, and anything it lacks in terms of grammar or vocabulary can be made up by other methods of study. I assume by the time I finish level 5 it will have covered all the most commonly used tenses to some degree.
Hope Catalan course is ready in Duolingo for your next visit to Barcelona, capital of Catalonia.
Didn't you use 'mi oso bebe cerveza' or 'soy un pingüino'? I really think those are a very useful sentences! XD
Excelente experiencia. felicidades. Debe ser muy interesante poder practicar de esa manera todo lo que has aprendido ultimamente. Eres muy afortunado; no todo el mundo tiene esa oportunidad.
I can see that you were very happy and excited at the moment you wrote that text, because I found some typos, as uderstand, Doulingo, and because you wrote many :) faces.
And that's exactly what one would expect! Felicitaciones y sigue así, que se puede!
I know what you mean about the speaking part. I've been to Spain on several ocassions, and based on the region where you go you can understand or not what the natives are saying. For example, in the north of Spain I had to use English to get by since I did not understood anything while in Madrid I was able to understand everything.
Nice job :D That is a big acomplishment to be able to not only understand but speak a language that is not ur native one!!!!!!!!!!! Also just curious how long did it take for u to finish ur tree?
Altogether, finishing the tree took me about 3-4 months (with small breaks). I used to have days when I was learning 2-3 hours a day :)
Wow such a long time, but good to know, I dont know if i can put that much time in one day. It is amazing that u could.
It's definitely more challenging to understand things in Barcelona compared to say, Madrid. A few years ago I went to both cities. First Madrid for a few days, then Barcelona for a few more. Barca es lo mejor, pues es mas dificil para entender la gente. Knowing a little Spanish helps you to get around in Barcelona however there was no chance I would be having a conversation in Catalan. Ordering food and drinks went pretty well though.
Welcome back and glad to hear your studies are progressing!
¡Bien hecho! I'm pleased you've enjoyed your trip to Barcelona, one of the Spain's most vibrant and beautiful cities. You're very lucky, although I'll be going to Menorca in May to use some of the Spanish I've learnt recently. If I end of living out there when I'm older, I'll definitely learn Catalan although at this moment in time it's best if I just focused on Castilian as every Spaniard speaks and understands it.
It depends, of course, on how much you do each day. I'm four months in and about to finish. I do 5-6 lessons each day on DL. The comment from Michal above is similar.
Please explain what the Spanish Tree is and where it's found on the website. Thanks.
It's the little circles on your Duolingo home page. When you finish the lessons in a category it becomes a gold circle. If you scroll down you'll see it's kind of like a tree. ¡Buena suerte!
¡Estupendo! Soy muy celoso. To Anarchy, as Steven and Michael point out, the time expended has a significant relation to how fast you will finish the tree. Also important is your prior knowledge of the language. A big factor, also, is how efficiently you use the site, and your typing skill. For maximum speed, adjust your keyboard to the Spanish language. It is a simple procedure through the Control Panel on a PC, and I assume a MAC would be as easy. Then use the keyboard as much as possible rather than clicking with your mouse. Of course this means using the top line of the keyboard,(the number line) which was a bit of a chore for me to get used to.
Congrats! I was just there a few months ago as well. Everyone seemed to understand me just fine, but I had a hard time understanding Catalan. We ran into a bit of trouble when using the subway and a gentleman tried to explain the colored route lines in Catalan. The color words were quite different, but we figured it out.
Thank you for sharing this. I am planning a trip to Europe this summer. This was just the motivation I needed to get back to work on my tree.
Good job!! I am going to Spain next month and hoping to complete my tree before then. I used to be fluent, and then didn't speak a word of Spanish for 9+ years, so I'm moving through quickly as everything is coming back to me. I do worry about their accent - all of my training has been with Latin American spanish!
Thanks! I just past the last checkpoint in the Spanish tree. I was wondering if I would magically be able to be fluent by the end of this. LOL! I know it will take a life time to master. I've been at it for 32 days now and I can already read most headlines.
Maybe someday I'll get to go try it in Spain sometime! jealous
Bien hecho! desde aqui debe seguir practicando para mantener tu habilidad en el idioma, Sigue usando duolingo hasta que se hace demasiado facil y empieza a sumergirse en la cultura por mirar peliculas, escuchar musica, leer libro y aprender el modismo.
Buena suerte con tu viaje por el lenguaje espanol!
Congratulations. In addition to Duolingo which other resources would you recommend. Gracias.