"Det stora vemodet"

Translation:The great melancholy

February 13, 2015

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"Gloppar"? No kidding? People actually say that?

The Winter's Tale ...

A coastal tanker stomping through the pack ice in the Straits.
A workout at Ullevi in haze. Tornio border station, an old woman on a kicksled.
Landsort's lighthouse where the snow storm draws. Dense snow gloppar on Mariaberg's slopes. Hot and sweat at Statt Harnosand.
A trader in snow smoke between Kiruna and far flickering light in the harbor of Visby

It is then that the big melancholy rolls in And from the sea blows an icy, bleak wind...

Hu, hvad det gloppar! http://g3.spraakdata.gu.se/saob/show.phtml?filenr=1/86/80.html


hm, either my swedish is completely off or the english subtitles are at most presenting the large picture, far from an actual translation. :-/

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The subtitles are adapted to fit an international audience I would say, because the original lyrics include several very specific place names and Swedish phenomena.


The noun 'snöglopp' is used quite often in the winter, when the snowing is wet and heavy. But the verb I haven't heard, seems it has gone out of fashion.


I'd say that. Like, #!@& vad det gloppar idag!


And once again it has been shown how different the vocabulary is in different parts of Sweden :-)


Maybe it's just me being old fashioned :)


Well my own search hasn't been all that successful, but in English the word seems to be less than a hundred years old. In the US we talk about glopping food onto plates and about 'gloppy' (wet heavy) snow. I always thought the word was just made up by some kid and caught on because it sounded funny, but now I'll wonder seriously and probably forever if it wasn't a Swede who was responsible. http://www.etymonline.com/index.php?term=glop


I feel like this is a period in Swedish history or something. Instead of the Great Depression.


Kinda like the dutch word "weemoede" :) I'll have no hard time remembering this one :)


Oh! Cool that Dutch has it too. :)


So does German: "Wehmut" :)


The only thing we're missing then is some English woe mood, I guess.


How about 'woebegone'? (sad, gloomy or miserable in appearance.) As in: Why is he looking so woebegone? The Garrison Keillor stories about 'Lake Wobegon' are satirical looks at Americans of Norwegian decent and the funny side of their 'dark' melancholy.


That is by far the best suggestion I have seen, but I don't really think it's suitable for the course. :)


Is it like A Saudade?


Not really, no - saudade is more about longing for someone or something.


I think you mean "weemoed" without the last "e", but yeah, it really does look alike a lot! :)


U heeft gelijk. :-)


Does vemodet also mean depression, like a depressed state or feeling, not necessarily the actual depression.


I wouldn't say that, because vemod has a bittersweet quality, like in nostalgic songs.


I went for "The big sad". Kinda disappointed that wasnt allowed.


I also went for "the big sad," fully expecting it to be rejected (I was right) but also unable to resist the temptation of inputting "the big sad"


We do allow "sadness" - but just "sad" isn't a noun. Or, well, at least not in this context.


After reading all the comments I think I understand the subtle meaning of "vemodet". Of course it helps being the grandchild of two Swedes and the great grandchild of another Swede and growing up in Minnesota surrounded by more descendants of Swedes, Norwegians (and a few Finns. ;-)) The comments about Gloppar threw me off though. Where did that come from? I tried gloppar in Google Translate and it returned gloppar. When I tried Det stora vemodet it returned, "The big crowd". This is yet another reminder not to trust Google Translate with anything important. ;-/


Det stora vemodet is a song – its actual title is ”Vintersaga”. It was written by a guy named Ted Ström, but it's the 1984 version by Monica Törnell that has become iconic. The lyrics are a sort of road trip through Swedish winter landscapes. English Wikipedia even has an article about it: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vintersaga

Here's a link to one YouTube version, but when link rot sets in, just search for Vintersaga. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZZSl_IaIQOA


I put "the big sad", and then laughed at myself


What is the Swedish phrase for "The Great Depression" (1930s)?


We use the same name: den stora depressionen. Unlike in English, though, we don't put it in title case.


This lesson is very weird, so far. Level one, people. Unknown "expressions," song lyrics...?


why is it stora and not stort since it is ett vemod


stora is the definite form.


It is the indefinite form that uses -t: Ett stort vemod. (or in a general mening: "Stort vemod")


One time i listened to a song titled "The Voice" by the group Celtic Woman. Reading through the comments I found someone talking about a feeling of homesickness for a place you have never seen. I'm still looking for a language that has an exact word for this feeling and I wonder if vemodet comes close to it.

Someone suggested the word "hiraeth" from the Welsh language, but it doesn't seem to be quite the match.


Is det/den stora depression the Swedish pharing for the Great Deoression?


Ah yes, the high school years

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