Languages Community Wants In The Incubator Next!
After my post that I made about a week ago asking the community what languages they would like to have in the Incubator next, I have decided to make another post concluding the results!
Here are the top 10 most requested languages:
If you think this list is helpful please give it an upvote so hopefully it can get an admin's attention and let them see what languages we want and also if there is a language you would want and is not on this list or in the incubator, feel free to leave it in the comments. Thanks in advance!
Yep. I find it highly implausible that the average user wants several of those courses above others not on the list.
I posted a poll called "Which reverse course do you want to see most?" recently and Japanese got first. Strange it's not on here...
Well I'm certainly not average but I would love Arabic, Latin, Mandarin, Icelandic or Farsi and that's half of the list right there
I'm surprised that Japanese isn't on the list, I see it requested all the time. XD
Japanese is requested so much I sometimes see backlash from users sick of it being requested. I wonder where OP got the stats for this list.
Greek for Albanian speakers would be nice and very feasible since there are a lot of bilingual Albanian-Greek speakers.
I was thinking of Greek for English speakers since the English for Greek speakers course is out of beta. I really want to learn Greek.
I'm all for adding more languages.
I'm surprised my comment has got 4 thumbs down so far. I didn't even say anything bad, :(
It really has. Since I posted that comment I've got 4 more (that I know of) so 8 in total.. It's ok though. I don't take it personally.
Icelandic! I didn't know there was actually a big interest in this language but I'd LOVE to see a course. I'm currently getting into in on Memrise and it's one of the languages I'd like to know the most.
Wow, I'm very happy to see Catalan that high on the list. Thanks a lot Duolingoers! I applied for the Catalan course, hope it gets approved and we could work on it asap.
I'm going to Barcelona this summer, so I would be really excited if they started developing a course, even though it probably wouldn't be out by the time I went there.
Sí, molt bé. I already know Spanish, so Catalan would be great for visiting bilingual areas of eastern Spain.
Jo també he enviat el meu currículum... avere si cola... ;P, veig que no sóc la única... :D
Jo també! Crec que hi ha equips de només 3 persones. Normalment volen un equilibri entre parlants dels dos idiomes. Sou anglòfons o catalanoparlants? Jo sóc anglòfona i visc a Catalunya.
Sign me up for Icelandic and Finnish!!!! ^_^ also Persian (Farsi) is my native language...I would love to see it on here! Hooray!! Also I love to say bless bless in icelandic! Teehee(:
I am also for Icelandic and Finnish! Let's hope they will be added soon to the Incubator! :)
Well, from the beginning you made a list with only a few languages picked by you that people could choose from. This isn't exactly the whole truth about what people want...
Finally! I did a poll on the Celtic languages and Welsh was by far the most wanted.
Alternate spelling. :) C is preferred by countries Using Romance languages and K is preferred by countries using Germanic languages.
I'm pretty sure Japanese should be up there. Luis has said a few times that Japanese and Esperanto have been the top requested languages.
Based on previous polls I've seen, Faroese is a huge and only surprise.
And yay, Finnish again on top!
Well, it's always a poll of whichever few random forum members happen see the post and feel like commenting. The last "favourite language" poll I saw awarded first place to Inuktitut :-).
As much as I'm happy to see some of those languages being mentioned I know that I won't see them on Duolingo for a long time. This poll includes votes of a few forum members, as you said. And those members are not even a big part of the whole Duolingo community. From my point of view, the decision to add new language is based more on the possible amount of new users it may attract to Duoling. Of course, making current users stay and start new courses is important as well but I believe it's more about expanding. That's why all those polls probably won't have much of an effect but still - one can have dreams, right? I surely hope that one day I'll see Icelandic course ;)
I'm fairly convinced the massive voting for Inuktitut was done by a single person, who was frustrated about Inuktitut being in the poll, but not Bengali, so as to point out that "flaw" or something.
That's the trouble with these polls :-). In the present case, a Mandarin enthusiast might point out that it's rather odd that Faroese beat Mandarin, considering that there are 2000 [edit: actually 20,000, thanks eagersnap!] Mandarin speakers for each Faroese speaker on the planet. The fact that each poll produces a different result is a good reminder not to take them too seriously. They can make good conversation starters, though.
But the fact that some languages (Finnish, Hebrew, Latin, Icelandic, Farsi) are constantly voted to top 10 surely means that there is more demand for them than, say, Afrikaans. Not to say that there isn't demand for Afrikaans, I know there is. It just doesn't appear on these as often.
And the number of speakers is a bad indicator for demand. German and Portuguese were added at the same time, Portuguese has more than double the speakers and is an official language in more countries on more continents than German, but German has three times the learners (from English) and courses available/in development. Though it's fair to assume that Mandarin will get more users than Faroese when the courses are made available.
I think we probably have different ideas of what constitutes "demand". Of course, if you're talking about "demand among the tiny number of people who participated in the poll", you're right, it's not such a bad estimate. I'm talking about "demand among anyone who might use Duolingo to learn a language from English", a demographic numbering in the hundreds of millions, most of whom don't currently use Duolingo. After all, if I only wanted to learn (say) Swahili, I wouldn't sign up for a Duolingo account just so I could hang around on the forums voting for Swahili in language polls. I'd go somewhere else to learn from an existing Swahili course.
1.3 billion Mandarin, 66,000 Faroese, you're right of course. I must have dropped a zero somewhere :).
It would seem sensible to me to prioritise the UN languages, three of which are already up and running, one is on its way and that just leaves Mandarin and Arabic. After that, then I suppose it would make sense either to vote or to follow lists of widely spoken languages.
Personally, if I wanted any more after Mandarin and Arabic, I'd say Latin, just out of curiosity and respect for its historical place, and also Farsi, because I keep meeting really nice Iranians.
Does voting and discussing all this have any effect, by the way, or will we just have to wait for someone who does speak that language to build a course?
will we just have to wait for someone who does speak that language to build a course?
Exactly this. People who are bilingual and committed enough to the DuoLingo community and teaching aspects can apply in order to become a course moderator/contributor.
So is all this discussion and 'voting' just discussing our pipe dreams, or was there some idea that we could affect outcomes? Either way, it's interesting to see what people want, but it'd be better if there were a way to influence things.
But you can influence things (slowly) by creating the need of your wanted language. One example: DuoLingo could have already published a Mayan course, but they didn't find the right team who is able to build the course.
They published it but couldn't find anyone to build it? And Mayan? I would love to hear how and why any of this happened. Did people start to build it? And who asked for it? And which Mayan language was it/would it have been?
Sorry, I'm very tired today and wrote in the wrong tense above. The Duo staff could have published a Mayan course, but they didn't receive any well-written applications so they abandoned the idea of starting to build a Mayan tree. This is all the information I gathered.
My vote is for Latin. And as a Catalan, I am proud that my language is among the favourites. Thank you!
I think that Mandarin, Hindi, Japanese, Arabic, and Farsi would be very useful languages as speakers of these languages have quite a bit of influence over large regions of the world.
Latin, Hebrew, and Greek would also be wonderful to have as knowledge of these was for centuries the basis of a classical education as it allowed you to read classical literature without translation. In the Middle East knowledge of Arabic and Farsi held a similar place of esteem from what I understand.
All languages are beautiful and worth learning as they enrich the soul but I see those I mentioned as the most useful to the largest number of people globally. My two cents in any case...
With all of the Japanese request posts throughout the last couple of years, I'm shocked it's not on the list O.O
Lojban (ISO: jbo), please.
Once again, this should be added: there are plenty of enthusiasts that would create content. Please at least create the entry!
I personally will not use duolingo more, unless lojban is added (or at least in incubation)...
Lojban is a constructed language and is designed to be syntactically unambiguous.
I, personally, really enjoy learning and using this language. Many people say that the ‘logical’ rules and grammar make it difficult, but I grasped it (at least the basics) really easily.
The link above was my first real introduction to Lojban and how it works. If you are interested, feel free to watch.
.au la lojban. cu ve ctuca fo la'o sy. Duolingo .sy (I want Lojban to be taught on Duolingo.)
.iesai .i lo nelci be la .lojban. cu pluka mi
I strongly agree. It's nice to see a liker of Lojban.
Armenian! It's so difficult to learn online. I haven't been able to find a good resource for it. I'd love to have it here!
I feel arabic would be more helpful in todays world than finnish or icelandic. Just sayin'.
Hebrew! I highly doubt the veracity of this list. I've never seen the top two languages even mentioned anywhere in the forums.
From my observations in the forums, Hebrew, Hindi, Arabic, Mandarin, Latin, and Farsi should be on this list any none of the others. In addition Japanese is also highly requested.
I really want to learn Finnish, but I would prefer either Afrikaans or Yiddish
and i'm extremely pleased to see people wishing IS FO :) here are some lingots for you ;)
I think all of them should be added however Faroese, Catalan and Latin should be added after the others because I think Duolingo will get more people with Farsi, Arabic, Mandarin, etc. than we would with Faroese, Catalan and Latin.
Not necessarily, Mandarin, Arabic and Farsi may be more popular; but they also have more resources. If someone want's to learn Mandarin they are less likely to use Duolingo because they have more options. However Duolingo would be one of a few options for someone who want's to lean Catalan. You also have to consider how hard it would be to add the particular language.
I have worked as an English teacher in Catalonia, and I believe that a free online English course for Catalan speakers has the potential to get lots of coverage in the Catalan media and become extremely popular. There is really nothing like it.
Catalan is comparable to individual Scandanavian languages in terms of number of speakers; it's a mid-sized European language and nothing like Faroese (tiny number of speakers) or Latin (no native speakers). Duolingo has already moved beyond the four biggest European languages by adding Danish, Dutch, Swedish and even Irish, and chose to add these languages before Farsi, Arabic, and Mandarin, perhaps because these would be more difficult to develop.
Indeed. We are focusing on Catalan for English/Spanish speakers, but an English to Catalan course would also be extremely useful.
I've read on this discussion forum that new Duolingo incubator teams almost always start with English for X speakers, because the sound files for English already exist. So creating an English for Catalan course might be the first step in creating a Catalan for English course.
Difficult languages like Arabic or Mandarin would languish in the Incubator forever, whereas something like Catalan, which could borrow formating from any of the other Romance Languages already available, is more likely to go as quickly as, say, Norwegian currently is. Latin would be a lot harder, but at least uses to same script.
Hello, I would like to have the Maltese language on Duolingo, how can I make this happen? I have never received an email or any communication from Duolingo asking me to vote on a language or asking me if I have any suggestions for new languages. Please tell me how to get things going.
Maltese is a European language spoken in Malta. There are many Maltese migrants the world over who would like their children to speak Maltese.
I also wanr to learn Maltese. How do we vote for it to go in the incubator
This list has been proven to mean nothing - they just added Greek, which I don't see on it.
I would love to learn Japanese So I could finally understand songs and write some lyrics myself!
I'm really sorry Croatian isn't on the list. I know it's not such a popular language,but it surprises me that some of these on the list actually are (I've never even heard of faroese), especially when i have applied to contribute. but i guess there are others who are just as surprised as i am :/
Croatian wasn't even up for voting on the list this person made up. Serbian was though, which I thought was kind of strange because to me it feels like there's way more talking about Croatian here and people seem to want to learn Croatian more than Serbian (maybe the cyrillic is putting people off?). Anyway, I wish Croatian would come so much..!