https://www.duolingo.com/tomi1999

Let's make a Catalan course happen!

There are a lot of Duolingo user that want a Catalan course, me included. That's why in January I wrote to Luis Von Ahn, and he told me that we were starting a Spanish>Catalan courses. Duo

But since then, no one has ever contact me from Duolingo. That's why I want to start this "Campaign".

Next Monday February 23rd everyone will send a message on the incubator for a course of Catalan to Spanish speakers.

If you are a native Catalan speaker, you have a good level of English or Spanish and you are eager to collaborate, please write it down so Duolingo knows that a lot of people are available.

If you don't know Catalan, but you would love to learn, your commentary will help to show the enthusiasm to learn this beautiful language.

To all of you reeding this, please like it and send the link to anyone who could be interested, so it reaches the forum main page.

And Luis, please replay!

Gràcies!

Hace 4 años

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https://www.duolingo.com/tomi1999

I have great news from Kristinemc, Duolingo community manager! You can see it here https://www.duolingo.com/kristinemc Duo

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I hope it is finally happening

Hace 3 años

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It is!

Hace 3 años

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And doktorkampi is the contrib. ;)

Hace 3 años

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quick question: how did you add Catalan to your profile? I tried it and advanced to level 2 and then lost temporarily all my other languages, and when I got them back, my Catalan was gone :(

Hace 2 años

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I see Catalan flag next to your username
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Hace 2 años

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merci, Charlie, see Xavi's comment below

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The languages are hidden because you switched to a Spanish course, then Duolingo is n Spanish and only show Catalan or the other courses you have started from Spanish, in your case just Catalan. But as jrkhal said you didn't lost them. It's just a bit annoying to change between courses. Use this everytime https://www.duolingo.com/courses/all

Hace 2 años

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That's cool! I hope that also might mean a few other eagerly awaited languages might be appearing in the incubator soon, too. crosses fingers for Hebrew... I can hope, right?

Hace 3 años

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Yiddish is already in development, and if we can get the Catalan course going too, there's not reason a language like Hebrew can't get its place too. It'd be pretty cool to have lots of languages to choose from.

Hace 3 años

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Ooh, great. I was wondering if the release of Port>French and the imminent release of Turkish would mean anything.

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Good news. Touch wood it'll happen soon.

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quick question: how did you add Catalan to your profile? I tried it and advanced to level 2 and then lost temporarily all my other languages, and when I got them back, my Catalan was gone :(

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Fantastic! Now I'm slightly more hopeful that it'll be done before I get to Spain, haha.

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quick question: how did you add Catalan to your profile? I tried it and advanced to level 2 and then lost temporarily all my other languages, and when I got them back, my Catalan was gone :(

Hace 2 años

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Excellent news!!!!

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WOW!!! That is AWESOME!

Hace 4 años

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For real?

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I haven't seen it pop up in the courses to teach part of the incubator yet. Will that happen soon? Just kind of excited to see it pop up!

Hace 3 años

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It seems they were about to publish Catalan as well as the other languages last week. Maybe they had some troubles searching the best people to work on the course. I'm very impatient, I'm checking Duolingo everyday, and actually I'm not working in any language. Just hoping my dream to see Catalan in Duolingo comes true :D

Hace 3 años

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Xavi_fr, sóc valencià i actualment em trobe finalitzant el meu curs de batxillerat i vull començar a estudiar per al grau superior de valencià, i crec que heu comptar amb gent dels diferents dialectes, per tal d'oferir una varietat el més estàndard possible, i que mallorquins, catalans i valencians (i andorrans, si n´hi trobem algun) participen en la creació del curs pot ser molt enriquidor, no creus?

Només espero que tingueu en compte això, ja que d'una altra manera, us quedaria un curs on es té en compte una sola cara d'una prisma anomenat llengua, espero que aviat els meus amics castellanoparlants, no em posin l'excusa de no entendre el que parlo, jajaja Moltes gràcies, valent!

PD:Si necessites la meva ajuda, em tens a la teva disposició.

Hace 3 años

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Jo també crec que hauria de ser el més neutre possible. Però ja sabeu que actualment no disposem d'un català estàndard que agrupi totes les varietats de la nostra llengua, de manera que pot ser difícil trobar un punt intermig. El conegut com a català estàndard no deixa de ser un català molt orientat a les varietats del català central. I si hem de tenir en compte el català majoritari potser ens trobem amb sorpreses (per exemple, mentre que al mal anomenat català estàndard s'usa el pronom "ens" la majoria dels catalanoparlants del sud del Principat i de fora de Catalunya utilitzen el "mos"). És per això que crec que hauríem d'afegir a les Bonus Skills un apartat de Dialectes i ensenyar les diferències més freqüents (possessius, primera persona del present de l'indicatiu, pronoms i una mica de vocabulari). I per descomptat, crec que el curs hauria de comptar amb valencians, balears, franjolins, nord-catalans, algueresos, etc., no només principatins. Salut i força!

Hace 3 años

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Ningú et dirà res aqui per parlar català :D o valencià o mallorquí com li vulguis dir, per mi es la mateixa llengua. I com es en un nivell basic Duolingo entenc k ha de fer un català teòric, després venen els accents i les entonacions diferentes, pero no podem posar paraules que no siguin comunes a tot arreu perque sino en perjudica a tots :S

No m'han seleccionat a mi per res, jo només poso pressió per veure'l sortir, més endavant podrem comunicarnos amb els que crein el curs, perdona k escrigui tant malament, es molt tard :D

Hace 3 años

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Jo també parlo català, i es que hi ha gent que li costa acceptar això, visc en un poble on hi ha molta crispació respecte al tema, fet que em va fer informar millor, i per això es que és una llengua amb les seves variants, lleugeres, com dir Espill o Mirall, entre d'altres, però en la meva humil opinió, en el terme mig està la perfecció, i si gent de diferents llocs i parlars s'uneix, aconseguiran fer coses més cohesionades que un de sol.

I perdona si t'ha semblat que el meu missatge era de crispació però no era la intenció, però crec que no hi ha un model clar, ja que des de certs sectors polítics, amb interessos com acaben amb una llengua per guanyar vots, no sé si m'entens , i s'han posat pals a les rodes, i han pretès dificultar la relació, i la funció dels moderadors d'aquest curs és important, perquè els futurs estudiants de la llengua, que són molts milers i milers, és establir un estàndard, bàsic, però neutre, i m'encanta posar l'exemple del "Español Neutro" que va ser un intent que Espanya i Amèrica Llatina utilitzessin un model de doblatge comú, que va fracassar, però és reconegut com un intent d'aconseguir un idioma neutral, i les dues claus són esborrar al màxim els castellanismes i en paraules diferents en cada varietat, com xiquet, nen i al.lot s'acceptin totes, ja que no hi ha una més correcta que una altra, simplement diferent.

I t'he vist com una cara visible, i he donat la meva opinió, i espero que d'aquí a poc, veure't (o veure'ns) en un fòrum, ajudant a resoldre possibles dubtes dels nous, jajajaja

Hace 3 años

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Aviam si aquesta setmana ja es la defintiva :D Doncs això hem de aconseguir un racó on poguer aprendre el català amb total tranquilitat, evitant els possibles frec a frecs (roces) entre gent de diferentes regions dels països catalans i evitant tots els comentaris polítics, basem-nos a donar a conexer la nostra llengua a la resta del món.

Ningun problema amb el teu comentari, al revés, era constructiu.

No sé d'on ets, suposo del país Valencià, mai hi he estat per aquelles terres, però m'agradaria visitar-ho i conversar amb ells per saber que coi estan fent per allà amb la nostra llengua. Un canvi a Catalunya potser ajudaria la resta de pobles catalans a la llarga :D

Hace 3 años

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Jo vaig estar al País Valencià un parell de vegades però mai no vaig trobar ningú qui parlés el català/valencià, només alguns pamflets pels estudiants que ho tenen com assignatura. I jo que m'havia emocionat pensant que podria comprar-me alguns llibres en català/valencià! :P Suposo que es parla menys cap al sud?

De totes maneres, penso que tenir (o tindre, com crec que dieu a València ;) ) persones dels distints llocs catalanoparlants seria una molt bona idea. Si se'n pot trobar, és clar!

Hace 3 años

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Ditto. Shame that it's getting delayed.

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Any news so far? They mentioned this week...

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Any new news???

Hace 3 años

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Sadly not :(

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I don't speak it, but I've been eyeing the Incubator almost daily to see if it's been added yet. =)

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Still waiting, I don't want to spam more the Disucussion, because people can get annoyed fast. But lot of people are waiting for it.

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No worries, I don't think anyone here minds. I've been watching the whole thing very closely and impatiently; I'll know as soon as something happens. =)

In the meantime, I should probably poke around parla.cat a bit more anyway...

Hace 3 años

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Yep, we don't have anything like Duolingo by the moment :S btw if you want to watch this website: tv3.cat or 3alacarta to watch past programs. Are you a starter?

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I've been watching Quequicom on tv3.cat. I really enjoy it because it has so many demonstrations that I can follow it even when I lose track of what they're saying. Plus the captioning is super helpful.

Hace 3 años

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Thank you! Yep, I'm just starting. I've got about six months before I head to Valencia, so I'd like to at least train my ear, but it would be nice to figure out how to actually speak it a bit too!

Hace 3 años

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Knowing french and spanish... it will be easier for you, you have to be careful because it has more vocalic sounds than Spanish. http://ca.wikipedia.org/wiki/Llista_de_canals_de_televisi%C3%B3_en_catal%C3%A0 look at the end of the link, because catalan accent is a bit different than valencian accent. Maybe you should try canal9 and those channels from País Valencià. If you have questions just write to me! good luck

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Hehe, I may well take you up on that. Gràcies per endavant!

Hace 3 años

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I want to text my support. Unfortunately, I will be out of the country on Monday and will not be able to send the aforesaid message. But I am 100% behind this course occurring! Catalan (and BASQUE!!!!!) for Spanish speakers is a brilliant start. And next... for English speakers!!!

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Que bueno, ya que español es mi lengua segunda y no me cuesta mucho a estudiar catalan por este modo. Gracias por todos sus esfuerzos a hacer este asunto a la frente de las agendas de Duolingo. Duolingo es un recurso increible para estudiantes de cualquier lengua y un curso de Catalan seguramente se establecerá su lugar y perfil como una lengua de gran importancia al mundo y no solo a los polyglots. Cuando estuve en Barcelona el año pasado tenía bastante problemas reconciliando mi entendimiento de español a catalan que no parezcan tan parecidos como sean. Pero la necesidad de comunicar en catalan allí permanece a pesar de la presencia de español por el respecto de los catalenses.

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Catalanes, no catalenses :) ¡Gracias por tu apoyo!

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Cal fer soroll, això està tardant massa!

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SPREAD THE WORD!!!

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I would contribute with pleasure. Catalan for English/Spanish/French speakers or reverse courses.

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I would love a Catalan from Spanish course. Unfortunately I don't know it so I can't contribute.

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We should be patient, they have lot of courses to work on. It will arrive the time of Catalan language muahaha

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But Polish is already in development! (Muahaha stoopid Madrid joke ;-p)

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En castellà, el gentilici polaco s’ha aplicat, des del segle XIX, com designació familiar i despectiva de diversos col·lectius. L’ús més modern és el qual dóna Víctor León en el seu “Diccionario de Argot Español”, on polaco significa «català/mallorquí». La casa Collins, en el seu Diccionari Espanyol-Anglès, també recull aquesta accepció familiar. L’origen modern es remunta a les casernes espanyoles, on els reclutes catalans eren cridats polacos perquè quan parlaven entre ells els altres reclutes no els entenien. A pesar del caràcter despectiu de la denominació, el terme ha donat molt joc. Com exemple està el programa de TV3 Polònia.

If you are Spanish and you don't understand anything of this text in catalan, then you can call us Polacos (Polish people), because you neither understand Polish, right?

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My apologies xavi, I just googled the origins myself and didn't realize it is so despective... I honestly thought it was more a Real Madrid vs Barça thing, and was solely intended as a joke. As to me, I have Spanish roots, yes. I grew up in Madrid and have been a Barça fan since we moved to Spain in the 70's. My dad grew up in exile... I'm most definitely not a Spanish nationalist!

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No worries, it's not annoying for me. Only when they said to me in a very bad way. :D

Hace 4 años

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I try to not put politics here, if it's for fun you can make this jokes. Actually ,I don't understand this joke, i should check google...

Hace 4 años

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Jo sóc de llengua mare italiana, i parlo català, castellà i francès. Aquí estic per col·laborar en el que faci falta! Salut

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I could only upvote your original post once.............so what did I do instead to show support? I gave you about 40 lingots, lol.

:) Good luck! I can't wait...............discos, cinema & culinary culture.........ahhhh.

Just to go there and speak Catalan with them would be a dream come true.

Thanks in advance!

Hace 4 años

https://www.duolingo.com/tomi1999

Another way to show support is sharing this post with the people that might be interested. Thank you!

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cool i will do it later on today. :D

Hace 4 años

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Catalan is coming! This link goes to the Catalan-Spanish incubator website, if you change 'es' for an other language it doesn't work, so it seems they are preparing it.

http://incubator.duolingo.com/courses/ca/es/status

Hace 3 años

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Oooh. Did they contact you? I'll be refreshing all day, haha.

Actually, I'm seeing it for French and English too. Not Italian or German though. Odd.

Hace 3 años

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oh it's true i didn't check english srry, but seeing Catalan in duolingo words :DD

Hace 3 años

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They've got Basque there too: http://incubator.duolingo.com/courses/eu/es/status

Not from French for that one, though. Poor French Basques.

Hace 3 años

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it's just the beginning, it the closest thing to see Catalan on the incubator haha srry for the false hopes, but it's something :D

Hace 3 años

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I think it's just a placeholder, for example there's a Russian for Esperanto speakers page:
http://incubator.duolingo.com/courses/ru/eo/status

I somewhat doubt they are planning on making that course anytime soon :/

Hopefully we'll get more news soon, though.

Hace 3 años

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I would love to learn Catalan! This is AWESOME news!

Hace 4 años

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Catalan please !!!!

Hace 4 años

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No doubt, I will!

Luis! listen to US PLEASE!

We want to contribute by all means!

See you on 23rd February!

Hace 4 años

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I really hope it appears in the Incubator soon!

Hace 4 años

https://www.duolingo.com/LeChienCeleste

Hola, soc de València, i parle el valencià, pero m'agradaria perfeccionar-ho, i aprendre a escriure-ho millor. Així que estic molt interesat en que aquest curs tire cap avant.

Hace 3 años

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dances for joy

I would literally give you all my lingots but it would take too long, haha.

Hace 3 años

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A mi me gustaría aprender para viajes a España. Me parece una buena idea.

Hace 4 años

https://www.duolingo.com/Lingophilic

I'd love to learn Catalan

Hace 4 años

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Finaly!!!!

Hace 3 años

https://www.duolingo.com/Katalane90
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Finally what ? There is no Catalan available

Hace 3 años

https://www.duolingo.com/anna15102002

yo soy catalana y me gustaria ayudar

Hace 4 años

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Muchas gracias de avanzado. :)

Hace 4 años

https://www.duolingo.com/ChukyBlairBass

Uoo! Que comenci la festa!!! :D Jo he enviat el CV... avere si sona la flauta!

Hace 4 años

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Se saben novetats ?

Hace 4 años

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Gracias a todos los que estáis dispuesto a hacer el curso! Me encantaría aprender catalán , ya que seguramente en un futuro lo necesite , espero de verdad que se ponga en marcha el curso . Por supuesto enviaré el mensaje ya para pedir el curso. Saludos!

Hace 4 años

https://www.duolingo.com/tomi1999

Remembre this monday to apply Catalan for Spanish in the incubator!!!

Hace 3 años

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Again? I think they safe our applications somewhere...

Hace 3 años

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I've just sent mine once again... :) Had to be on the 23-F?

Hace 3 años

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I have already sent it. I look forward to see Catalan at Duolingo soon.

Hace 3 años

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Okay.... so this Catalan, course, then...?

Can't wait. Just to see the logo there would be pretty exciting. Also: Basque! ;-D

Hace 3 años

https://www.duolingo.com/Katalane90
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I agree ... !!!

Hace 3 años

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I've been refreshing the page for about a month now lol!

Hace 3 años

https://www.duolingo.com/Katalane90
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hahaha me too !!

Hace 3 años

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I went ahead and sent a message to duolingo. Probably not going to help, but I thought it might help for them to see that there is a groundswell in some ways and that non-contributors are in support of the efforts of those contributor candidates who have already applied. Some sort of communication from them would be better than none. Especially in things like this that take time to get the word out and rely heavily on momentum to drive progress forward.

Hace 3 años

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I am a heritage Catalan speaker. While my Spanish and English are infinitely better, I would love to contribute to this course as a means of reaffirming my heritage. Gràcies!

Hace 3 años

https://www.duolingo.com/tomi1999

Then tell Luis duolingo.com/Luis

Hace 3 años

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I am very interested to learn Catalan from Spanish :)

Hace 3 años

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If Kilingon is developing, then everything is feasible. I hope to learn Catalan for Spanish.

Hace 3 años

https://www.duolingo.com/Nina-chan

Com va el curs de català? Pel que he llegit sembla que fa temps que no es mou...

Hace 3 años

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Nadie sabe. Ojalá después de que se lancen los cursos de noruego y ucraniano, se comience el de catalán, pero... ya no sé. =(

Hace 3 años

https://www.duolingo.com/Nina-chan

Però és per falta de col·laboradors? O hi ha altres raons?

Hace 3 años

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No pienso que haya falta. Los administradores nos han dicho dos veces ahora que iban a comenzar el curso, y no creo que lo habrían hecho si no hubiera bastantes voluntarios.

No sabemos la causa de la demora; hace algunas semanas que no nos dicen nada. =/

Hace 3 años

https://www.duolingo.com/whitefield12

I sent a request to the incubator some months ago but no answer so far. I am a bit disappointed. I am a teacher of English as a second language in Catalonia and will have some free time during the summer. I hope the incubator starts working by that time, because I'm used to making my own tests for my students and feel my experience would get things rolling fast enough.

Hace 3 años

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Hmm, maybe you could write to Kristine to remind them that availability changes? People ask about Catalan on her stream fairly regularly, and occasionally she replies.

I'll be in Valencia this fall and was hoping the course might be out by then, but... well, two months later and still nothing. So much for that.

Hace 3 años

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Hi ha moltes novetats a la web, i el català tindrà que esperar fins que no es centrin en ell. Semblava que estaria disponible a la incubadora fa unes setmanes, però sembla que, com bé dius, s'ha refredat. A ningú li agrada esperar, però es gratis així que es el que toca :D Ànims!

Hace 3 años

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but why is it going to be for spanish speakers first? dont understand. there is alot of media in Catalan and resources for learners. outside of spain its basically unheard of. there are speakers of catalan in france. now if you are french it would be quite hard to learn catalan or get rescources, and likewise it would be hard as a english speaker to get the variety of learning materials for catalan than it would be for a more widely spoken language. and then comes the fact that most spanish speakers today live in the americas, who probably dont know much if anything about catalan or catalonia. so why is it not catalan for english speakers or catalan for french speakers. or is it just easier to start with spanish because it is similar

Hace 3 años

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Because this first catalan course will create the Catalan Tree (and other teams will then use it as a base for other CA couress-to-be).
So easier to get more (and better?) catalan speakers that want to volunteer among CA/ES bilinguals than among any other combination CA/XX.

Was the same for Irish: I guess it's easier for English speakers to have ressources about it however (and probably exactly for that reason among others in fact) it was created from EN first.
In fact it's almost the same for all languages: ENG being the language used internationally, it's easier for EN native speakers to find ressources to learn most of the languages, /but Duo created almost all courses for EN native speakers first.

Hace 3 años

https://www.duolingo.com/MrEsgarraet

The reason is easy to understand, a lot of "Catalán-Speakers" live in Spain (or Catalonia, or Mallorca or Valencian Country), and they have two native tongues (Catalan and Spanish), and languagues like french or English, haven't got the "minimum" of Standard Speakers in those languagues to help to create that course...

In Spain, you must learn Spanish in all of these countries, and learn Catalan, Batua Euskera or Galego in the countries with these languagues...

I think that maybe in the future, Catalan for English-Speakers, will be available....

Good luck! (I espere que el Català arribe a estar disponible no sols en Anglés o en Francés, quan més hi haguen, millor será...)

Hace 3 años

https://www.duolingo.com/fipulinu

A mi m'agradaria ajudar-vos!!! Hablo perfecto español de España And I speak quite well English.

Hace 1 año
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