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"What would a Midsummer without herring be?"

Translation:Vad vore en midsommar utan sill?

February 19, 2015



The English sentence is awkward.

A better translation to English would be, "What would Midsummer be without herring?" OR "What would a Midsummer without herring be like?"

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    I totally agree. I'd write "What would Midsummer be without herring?"


    I don't think we put "a" before any holiday, do you?
    (even though I did suggest it in my second sentence above) Same with seasons. Or am I mistaken?

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      No, you are right in that we don't put "a" before a holiday. For generic celebrations you do - eg "What would a birthday be without cake" or "What would a wedding be without champagne" but one would write "What would Christmas be without tinsel" or "What would Easter be without Hot Cross Buns".

      I actually missed that there was an "a" in that sentence. Living as I do in Sweden, I get used to Swedes speaking their not always correct English and I've started to not react to minor grammatical errors anymore.


      I'm not too fond of this sentence at all - mainly because the vad vore en construction is a fairly uncommon idiom that takes the en, even though we, too, typically just say midsommar in the indefinite.

      Don't get me wrong - it's a good idiom to know. But this is hardly the right place to teach it, nor the right way. I don't think we'll keep this sentence for the next tree.


      "we, too, typically just say midsommar in the indefinite"

      Aha! This makes me happy! I prefer Swedish and English to line up nicely with each other, lol! Seriously, it's good to know.

      The more I know, the more I want to know. I am finding this "game" so rewarding! Thank you for all the time you put into it!


      This is definitely an awkward sentence, I think it should be dropped. A more idiomatic/common in English way of saying it is "What's a Midsummer without herring?" Writing the provided answer just doesn't click for me.


      Förbannat mycket mindre illaluktande...


      Sill luktar väl inte så illa?


      Vadå? Inlagd sill luktar väl inte?


      Inlagd sill luktar definitivt. Tror alla som inte gillar det är rörande överens här. :)


      Pickled herring! Yum!


      Trying to understand why this is not accepted: "Vad skulle vara en midsommar utan sill"


      It's a little like English - you say "What would x be?" rather than "What would be x?" for this construction.


      I find myself cringing at "be' at the end of this sentence. "What would Midsummer be without herring?" Ahhh... I feel much better now. ;-) Också, passera sill. Tack! :-)


      Picking up on this, can anyone tell me why it is wrong to translate it as "Vad skulle bli..."?


      Because then it would be a different question. "What would/should become"


      Sill? I figured it must be "Strömming", because of the infamous surströmming. Has my logic defeated me?


      Both sill and strömming are accepted answers. sill is the most common word for the species. (Clupea harengus). The word strömming is used specifically for herring caught in the Baltic sea, north of Kalmarsund. There are some minor genetic differences (only recently discovered) and also sill is generally bigger and fatter. :)


      Ok, that is pretty specific. But then, I guess herring is a big part of Swedish culture. I must have made another mistake in my sentence, then. Tack igen!


      Are Skulle and Vore interchangeable in this sentence? Or alternatively, is it possible to use skulle to form this sentence?


      skulle means "would" and vore means "were" (subjunctive) or "would be". Hence, these are equivalent:

      • vad skulle en midsommar vara
      • vad vore en midsommar

      But just vad skulle en midsommar doesn't make sense.


      Why doesn't skulle vara work?


      I assume that Vad skulle en midsommar utan sill vara? is accepted. If it isn't, it should be added.


      Sometimes, like in this exercise I cannot read the full sentence because it is obscured by the answers. I can scroll, but it is not fully visible.

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      Would "Vad skulle en midsommar bli" be correct?


      No, that'd be like using "become" instead of "be".


      We are making excercises with "skulle" and all of a sudden "skulle" is wrong in this sentence and has to be "vore", wich I have not seen before in the course !


      We do accept vad skulle [...] vara? as well, actually.

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