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Plurals with "beaucoup"

Why is it "beaucoup de vêtements" and not "beaucoup des vêtements"? In other words, how can the article be singular when the noun is plural? Are there other contexts there this happens?

May 9, 2012

19 Comments


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/ricainrico

I think the simplest explanation is that when you want to say a lot of something in general, "beaucoup" is always followed by "de" only. In your example, there is no article.

Remember "des" is contraction, and "contains" de + les. You could say "beaucoup des vêtement dans la boutique sont chers", meaning that you are referring to specific clothes, but not others, in the shop. Compare with "beaucoup de vêtements", meaning "a lot of (any) clothes". Hope this helps! Bon courage!

May 9, 2012

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Fyviane

My teacher always says that there's only de after any expression of quantity :).

May 31, 2012

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Timid

The difference in the two is "a lot of clothes" versus "a lot of the clothes". So both can be correct depending on what you mean.

May 29, 2012

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Lethia7

"Beaucoup" is always followed by "de" along with several other adverbs of quantity. For example "assez de" meaning enough and "moins de" meaning less.

March 31, 2013

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/cristic

Yes, but when the word that's after BEAUCOUP starts with a vowel, then we'll use "des", isn't it? Ex : "beaucoup des amis"

August 28, 2013

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/digitalmacro

I think it would just be "beaucoup d'amis." Unless you were saying "a lot of THE friends" in which case it would be "beaucoup des amis."

September 1, 2013

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/cristic

Thanks

September 2, 2013

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/will_he_wont_he

There are some other situations like this. Quantity is one of them; beaucoup as above (this isn't ALWAYS the case, some words, such as le plupart go back to des, but almost always it's just de). Negative is another; after a negative construction such as il n'y a pas de gens, even though gens is plural and is always plural, you still use de. Finally, there is what is known as adjectival inversions. This is where the adjective comes before the noun it is describing. An example: ce sont de nouveaux livres goes with de because the adjective comes first, but ce sont des arbres hauts doesn't because the noun comes first.

June 8, 2012

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/ricainrico

This occurs also when you want to say "none of something": "Je n'ai pas de vêtements." = I have no clothes; or "little/few of something": "J'ai peu de vêtements" = I have few clothes.

May 9, 2012

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Tigran_Margaryan

I just know that "beaucoup de" menas "a lot of"

May 19, 2013

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/AimeeMoran

Part of it may be that "beaucoup" means (literally) "a good cut" - think steak <smile>. It is therefore a single item, like "a pile" or "a bunch", and what it's made of, like grapes or beans, is really just descriptive.

June 8, 2012

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/amihelich

It's similar to "a lot" in English. It describes many things, but the group as a whole is referred to as ONE LOT.

June 12, 2012

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/bchutch

Logically, you wouldn't say "I have a lot some clothes." "Des" means "some". "De" translates to "of". So, you would say, "I have a lot of clothes."

June 20, 2012

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/lgooding2

Whenever you have a phrase describing a quantity of something, it's followed by "de". Beaucoup demonstrates "a lot of," therefore it's followed by de. The same applies for other statements of quantity. For example, a box of shoes would be "une boite de chaussures" or "plenty of food" would be "plein de norriture."

Translations of "de" into English won't always give you the answer; French has different, more specific grammar rules. "Des" and "de" merely change with the quantity of whatever noun you're describing.

Hope this helps. :)

July 13, 2012

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/sarahmariasilva

This is called the "partitif" so if you didn't understand from those answers, google Partitif, I'm sure you could find some exercises to help you out.

Basically if you have some kind of quantity, you use "de" une tranche de pizza, deux tranches de pizza...

then there are some words that describe quantities so you must use "de" with them. "Beaucoup" is one of them, so is "assez"

The french language will always throw curveballs at you - the partitif is just one of them.

July 31, 2012

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/fufu

Always after beaucoup comes de(.quantites)

November 3, 2012

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/jsl9390

de + le = du

de + les = des

de + la = de la

de + des = de

it's the last one that's the key here, at least that's the way i was taught and it seems to help me understand it

September 26, 2013

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Pole19901990

lleuad is right. That's also what my teacher says. Word expressing quantity is always followed by "de"

June 13, 2012

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/martin.pitt

As for your question about similar cases, previous lessons had "livre de recettes". It wasn't obvious to me why it wasn't "livre des recettes", but thanks to the explanations here I do now. Merci beaucoup!

August 30, 2012
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