https://www.duolingo.com/DogePamyuPamyu

Conspiracy Theory: Dutch People & The Moon

Maan... maanden... It takes approximately 30 days for the moon to complete a cycle.

Is there some connection here, or just something really lucky? It's almost like saying, "For 12 moons" when you mean 12 months. Anyone know?

I've been wondering this for about a month, actually... It just seems too close to NOT be connected. Also in other Germanic languages it's slightly close. MONd, MONaten. MOoN, MONth. MAAN, MAANden.

3 years ago

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https://www.duolingo.com/mayhap
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The conspiracy goes deeper! The English words "moon" and "month" both come from the same Proto-Indo-European root, and there are cognates in Indo-European languages ranging from Irish to Latin to Sanskrit to Russian.

3 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/DogePamyuPamyu

Oh cool... So there is a relation that people noticed thousands of years ago and built into language? :D

3 years ago

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Da.

3 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Utnapis
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It is indeed the case that, as the division of time to months is quite obviously related to the moon cycles, the words for moon and for month in various languages are often related as well. In Finnish the relation is quite straightforward: "kuukausi" is a month", "kuu" is the moon and "kausi" is a period. In Indonesian the word for both moon and month is the same: "bulan".

3 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Simius
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Wikipedia has some stuff to say about this.

3 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/AlexinNotTurkey
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They are the exact same word in Turkish actually.

3 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/AlexinNotTurkey
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If case you want to know what that word is, it is "ay." It is pronounced just like the word "I" in English.

3 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Albrechtion
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In Chinese, 月 means both moon and month. (I think. My Chinese isn't very good)

3 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/flootzavut
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I think the same is true in Japanese, as well... it's been a while, so I may have misremembered. I think that the kanji for sun and day are the same too? in Japanese, at least.

3 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/DinoNalban

Yes, even indians in western books often say something sort of "I should be back in 2 moons" which means in two months.

3 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/flootzavut
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The only language I can think (that I know!) of where there's not a direct obvious link between month and moon is Russian, and even then, the word for month is related to an older word that means moon, although the current word for moon is closer to the romance languages :) apologies that the device I'm currently on doesn't have Russian installed!

3 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Gaga986
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In Serbian we say mesec/месец for month and for moon :)

3 years ago

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In Russian they use mesyat' (no Russian again!) for month but luna for moon, which is pretty random! I wouldn't be surprised if mesyat' was an acceptable alternate, but I don't know for sure. I think mesec etc are all from an older Slavic word.

3 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Gaga986
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Yeah, mesyat' is something similar to mesec and they both come from Old Slavonic language. If I remember well :)

3 years ago

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Sounds right!

I love how many cognates there are between Slavic languages, even when they're not exact - it's interesting to see how meanings and pronunciations have changed (or not!).

милость miłość milost...

3 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Gaga986
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I love that conection between Slavic languages, too :) мать, ма́йка, mati, majka and so many others examples :)

3 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Don_Cristian
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I zink, it has to be ze illuminatis brainwashing us somehow, we have to crush them with the help of our holy prophet Erich von Dänigen. This is a real conspiracy.

3 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/lieryan
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The real conspiracy is that all around the world, people keep track of their time in a 30 to 31 day cycle as well as an unrelated 7-day cycle. No globally observable features justifies those cycles. The 7-day cycle is just random. The only time cycles that somewhat would have made sense to have arisen independently is the year and lunar month, which corresponds to the solar cycle and lunar cycle respectively. This can't possibly be an accident of history. Conspiracy!

[Of course the real, real conspiracy is people forgetting their history]

3 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/JohanEij

The story I heard was that the moons period of 28 days gave early man a year [ 364days = 13months (moons)] plus one day [365]. Hence the term a year and a day. In the English language, half a month (moon cycle) is fourteen days [a fortnight] (14 waxing and 14 waning) and half of that was 7 days = a week. That was how we got the week of seven days.

3 years ago
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