How do you finish a tree?
I have been trying to learn Portuguese for one year on duolingo and I am only on level 14. I can't seem to get passed this level because I always have to go back and complete previous learned classes to keep the previous bars full.
I am assuming this is because I have not mastered the section. To the people who finish a tree, are you going back to lessons or just keep moving forward? Which is the better way to learn?
Thanks in advance for any feedback.
Well the best way to learn is what works best for you. With that said, if you want to advance, you don't need to keep the previous bars full. What I did with Spanish to finish the tree was to move forward until my head felt like it was spinning. Take a break, come back and do some quick timed strengthening sessions on what was then the easy stuff. I found Spanish to be relatively easy. Now I'm working my way through the French and it's beating me up! But I'll get it. And you'll get your Portuguese too! Good luck!
Thank you for being so detailed in your reply. I will change my technique and see if it helps. The slow progress discouraged me a bit and I lost my daily drive. Thanks gain.
I do all of the revision before I go onto a new section. You can revise doing timed practise and often just one right answer is enough for it to show an improvement, meaning you can do several quite quickly. The system is easier using a computer where they have now abandoned the heart version of progression. This means you can make lots of mistakes but keep going as long as you're not using the timed version. It's also much easier to type and see the screen on a computer.
I finished my Portuguese six months ago and I am currently making it gold again by strengthening 3 lessons a day. What I do with Swedish at the moment is: one or more new lessons every day and between 3 and 7 strengthening lessons of individual skills. My Swedish and Portuguese tree will be gold eventually if I keep going this way.
A way to finish the tree while having everything golden is to do it quickly so that the previous skills don’t have time to decay too much. I finished the Portuguese tree in about three months by doing about 5 new lessons every day and strengthening 3 old skills. Around the end, I had to strengthen way more skills everyday, but I managed it (by the way, strengthening skills with timed practice was much faster than by redoing the lessons) A few other remarks: - the level has nothing to do with how much of the tree you finished, when I finished the Portuguese tree I was also level 14 - it’s not because your level does not advance that you’re not learning Portuguese, you are!
Likewise, I agree with the above- in German the previous Vocab and grammar skills appeared in the later lessons- so when I decided to try to complete the tree I just kept moving forward- there is always time to go back to previous lessons afterwards- good luck with Portuguese! - Nevlogeos :)
Thank you so much for responding. It sounds like I need to change my tactics to learn and I really appreciate your feedback. Thanks again.
yeah i would binge for periods, but it wasn't until the latest retweek (where they took away the hearts) when i was able to finish my last three lessons on the tree. Like the others said don't worry about keeping all the bars gold, just move on to the skill you need/are able to learn next.
In the beginning I tried not to rush forward. I often did only strengthening instead of looking into a new lesson. After a while I just did a quick timed strengthening to earn a few xp to keep my streak. But then I noticed that with that speed I would take forever to complete my Italian tree. So I switched to doing 2 or 3 new lessons every day instead of strengthening too much. And it feels good! When I have the full tree completed I will start strengthening. Good luck for you!
On this matter I have a doubt. I have all my lessons with full bars, however I always have the option to "strengthen my skills"... Is this normal? Is there a point where it is not available until your bars go down? Thanks for you answers
Strengthening is always available. It just mixes words from different lessons that are going to decay soon.
When I did the Spanish tree, it took me 9 months to complete. In the beginning I did a minimum of 1 lesson per day. Most of the time those were new lessons. During the first couple of months I reviewed regularly to keep what I had done golden. But then around month 3 I stopped reviewing altogether. I just did new lessons straight through to the end. Around month 5 I increased my daily goal to at least 2 lessons per day. Around month 8, when I could see the end in sight, I did 3-5 lessons per day until it was complete. Once the tree was complete, about half of it was not golden. It took another 2 weeks to get the tree all golden. I had to review 3-4 lessons each day in order to make progress, because the program seems to add 1-2 lessons needing review each day.
The short answer is, I did not review a lot while progressing through the tree. I completed it first and then did reviews to make it golden. I have found that reviewing breaks the momentum and gets boring. Since you have been studying Portuguese for a year, I'd suggest try moving forward and completing the tree first, then review.
Yes, that is exactly what was happening. My motivation was diminishing. Thanks for the insight.
I finished tree of english in three months but I always have to go back a nivel before when them are with lower bars to practice again and let them full.
Tthank you all for your comments. It is great to hear how others are moving forward with their studies. I am encouraged once again.
it's pretty hard to finish a tree; I haven't finished one myself. I think that the best way to do it, is learn it through another source at the same time. A good source to use is 'Teach Yourself.' you can also go to http://teachyourself.co.uk you can also try to look for a store called 'half price books' they will help you. that may be easy. they have a book, and some CDs.
I finally finished my Portuguese tree about two weeks ago, after around a year and a half. My focus on Duolingo has changed depending on what's going on in my life. For a time I was very busy at work and home and just did a lesson or two a day, didn't have time to keep everything gold and finish new lessons, so I did new lessons to keep the interest going and let the older ones "expire".
After things settled down a little I had a lot of very "decayed" older lessons (one bar I'm ashamed to admit!) and had to take a significant amount of time to get them back to gold. This was more work than I was hoping it would be! I was about 6 subjects away from the end of the tree, so I finished up once everything was "refreshed". I wanted to have everything gold at that special moment when the trophy came up on the screen. Today I see I have 5 that need "re-golding" and I should have the time to do that.
In short, I don't think it matters, you may want to "press on" and let some older lessons decay to keep things interesting and make progress toward the end of the tree. But there's certainly nothing wrong with maintaining your tree as it is if you're satisfied with what you're learning by doing it - when you do get to the end that's all you can do!