https://www.duolingo.com/profile/subetealanutria

What about Ladino (Judaeo-Spanish)?

I read that Hebrew and Yiddish are already bein developed, and I was wondering if it would be possible to create a Ladino course.

Ladino is a Romance language, simmilar to Spanish, spoken by Sefardi jews (jews that were kicked out from the Iberian Peninsula during 15th century).

I know it has much fewer speakers than Yiddish and Hebrew, bu maybe this would make some of these speakers more aware of the urge to preserve this language.

I also heard that there is not an official version of Ladino so it would be problematic when deciding which dialect to teach. But I guess it wouldn't be very different from the "problems" caused by American Englis or Latin American Spanish.

I don't speak Ladino myself, but I'd really like to know if there are any Ladino speakers out there and if they have thought about creating a Ladino course. I really encourage them to do it!

March 11, 2015

38 Comments


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/monabaysha

I couldn't offer anything in developing a course, but I'm just chiming in to say that I would LOVE to see one exist. Ladino and Yiddish are probably the top languages I wish I could learn, and this site would be an absolutely incredible resource for them.

September 5, 2016

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/JonathanWexler

Use of Ladino in one of the indices used by the Jewish community of Oporto, in vetting potential returnees, to Portugal. Note that the Portuguese government isn't looking to see if Sephardic Jews speak Portuguese, but Ladino, as an indicator of their family origin. It would be outstanding to have Ladino here at Duolingo.

October 24, 2016

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/HebrewLearner

Hebrew is not in the incubator(yet), but I hope it will be soon!

March 11, 2015

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Pietroborges1

Ladino is indeed a wondetul language! About creating a course of that language here on duolingo I suppose it would be necessary to bring up some plans before. For example which dialect to use, or whether it would be used Hebrew or Latin letters and so on!

I speak Latino, Spanish, Catalan, Galician, Extremaduran and Occitan fluently so I could lend a hand in the course, maybe! I can also speak Portuguese and Italian. =) I have sent a request to create a Galician course for English speakers, about 3 days ago but they didn't respond me back yet! So, I am still waiting! ^^

June 11, 2016

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/PauBofill

Wow! Tanben parlas occitan? :)

June 12, 2016

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/M.A.F.369

I'm not a ladino speaker, and though I've tried to learn I've never had the resources. From what I know about Ladino, it is such a great duolingo candidate because: (1) it's a written language (2) many of the people who would want to learn it and who have a cultural connection have internet (3) it's losing ground but there still are enough speakers [I would think and hope] to form a team (4) it has a rich written tradition of things that could be translated in and out of it. Anyone have any other reasons why it's well suited to the duolingo model?

June 19, 2016

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/OlgaKleine

I can speak Ladino, and I know the grammar, too. It would be great to have such a course, indeed, to promote the language! I have already thought of creating a Ladino course, and I am ready to contribute to it, but the problem is I don't have too much time these days (working+PhD in progress), so we definitely need some more people!

April 14, 2016

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/PauBofill

Hey! I've made a survey for a research project about the Jewish languages I need people who are Jewish or that have some connection to Judaism or Jewish traditions to answer it. Would you mind answering it for me? It'd be of great help! This is the link: https://goo.gl/forms/VF108cPnJSGbHNQ12

August 7, 2017

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/JonpaulYoh

a, muy bueno! aze bueno ver una otra avlánte!

April 18, 2019

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/KdPomi

I could be enticed to contribute to the effort if a Ladino course is to be developed, I've spoken it since childhood though it's not my first language, and attended Ladino using shuls back when they still existed in Los Angeles. I can write it 'bout as well, I believe, as anyone. I actually did (do have 'c' source code somewhere) have a little db application that I wrote decades ago that trains on Ladino verbs, conjugated them and offered quizzes from either Hebrew or English; it ran on SCO UNIX (dating myself, that's 'Santa Cruz Operation') and uses a database that I still have of about 800 Ladino verbs in tables with their English and Hebrew equivalents, and tables with all the irregulars that I could muster. That represents a good lick of work towards an English or Hebrew based Ladino course. That's most of the verbs found in the Meam Loez Ladino commentaries on the Torah.

I'd prefer a Rashi Script course but would be open to the alternative if the Latinization were applied consistently.

May 28, 2016

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/calaisreed

I'd think it would be possible to have the alphabet, as long as there's an explanation of it early on, the way there is in the Hebrew course...

July 24, 2016

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/PauBofill

Hey! I've made a survey for a research project about the Jewish languages I need people who are Jewish or that have some connection to Judaism or Jewish traditions to answer it. Would you mind answering it for me? It'd be of great help! This is the link: https://goo.gl/forms/VF108cPnJSGbHNQ12

August 7, 2017

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/calaisreed

This would be amazing! It would also really help with keeping the language alive--I might be wrong, but I'm pretty sure the language is endangered, at least in the US.

July 24, 2016

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/swingbeatnik7

My great grandparents could speak this. I want to help preserve it. :)

September 20, 2016

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/PauBofill

Hey! I've made a survey for a research project about the Jewish languages I need people who are Jewish or that have some connection to Judaism or Jewish traditions to answer it. Would you mind answering it for me? It'd be of great help! This is the link: https://goo.gl/forms/VF108cPnJSGbHNQ12

August 7, 2017

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/prettynose

I would love to answer it, it says it's not accepting more responses

November 12, 2017

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/psionpete

I had a friend who was a Sefardic Jew from Turkey. I met him on a local college Spanish course so he was refreshing his knowledge of Spanish, which he used to know before he moved from Turkey when he was a boy.

I am no expert, and not Jewish, but I thought it was more Spanish than Hebrew or Yiddish.

Duo does not have separate courses for all of the Spanish dialects so why have one for Ladino?

March 11, 2015

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/no.name.42

I don't know the exact percentages, but it is not a Spanish dialect.

March 11, 2015

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/psionpete

Thanks

March 11, 2015

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/KdPomi

Ladino is an Iberian fusion language with its own official body funded by the Israeli government.

http://aki-yerushalayim.co.il/ (as in Here, Jerusalem)

That would be 'La Autoridad Nasionala del Ladino' in Jerusalem. Their website, which has a good deal of stuff to peruse, explains the Latinized orthography. Many folks, such as myself, prefer to stick with the Rashi Script (a form of the Aramaic/Hebrew 22 letter abjad) that is traditional, and is applied more consistently that the Latinized stuff on sees in the Spanyol (Ladino) fora, Ladinokomunita or Sefaradimuestro.

It is recognized by the RAE as its own version of Spanish, and has some weak support by the pendejos that run Spain. That's [pen 'de ʒʊz] ;)

May 28, 2016

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/SteveLando

I hope so too - I think it is the ladino which is spoken in Turkey that has the most current speakers and writers (there is a lot of historic litterature on the language, and nowdays also a few journals)

March 11, 2015

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Derorim

I once emailed a professor of Sephardic Studies from the UW about this, he and a colleague seemed quite interested! but haven't heard of them since, but who knows? maybe someday a team will be established at last.

November 17, 2016

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/bknckn

I would love to see a Ladino course! It's true that it's a small language, but all the more reason to teach it to new speakers. It might make more sense to have the course from Hebrew instead of from English though, since there are a lot more Sefardim in Israel

March 11, 2015

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Okapio

Sounds good to me!

May 6, 2016

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Jessiehl

I'm part Sephardi and I would really like to learn this. There are very few resources for learning Ladino.

October 24, 2016

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/PauBofill

Hey! I've made a survey for a research project about the Jewish languages I need people who are Jewish or that have some connection to Judaism or Jewish traditions to answer it. Would you mind answering it for me? It'd be of great help! This is the link: https://goo.gl/forms/VF108cPnJSGbHNQ12

August 7, 2017

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Lezlie2k2

If a course was made it would probably use romanization. Because support for the rashi script is limited. Also Judeo-Spanish is mutually intelligible with Spanish.

March 11, 2015

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/subetealanutria

There is a radio show on Spanish Public Radio which is led in Ladino. I wouldn't say it's more intelligible for me than Catalan or Italian.

March 12, 2015

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Gomos

Really? I understand around 95% here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6q323m0RRPU Which is quite more than a Spanish speaking person should understand Catalan or Italian if heard for the first time.

March 12, 2015

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/subetealanutria

Yes! This one is easy, more or less like Galician or Aragonese!

March 12, 2015

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/MexicoMadness

I have a good friend in NewYork, who speaks Ladino. She said she has no problem understanding modern Spanish. She speaks English fluently since she came here as a child. I will mention this to her.

January 21, 2016

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Stweiss2

I would be interested in learning Ladino also (preferably from English or Spanish, but I'd be game to try from Hebrew too if that's what most others preferred).

February 17, 2017

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/rabbianna

I'd love to learn Ladino.

January 13, 2018

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Alio.Laski

I love Ladino, and this would still be awesome.

January 25, 2018

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/francaisbrit

Yes, 100%, yes. I think Duolingo needs a Ladino course. I’m almost trilingual (English, French and almost Spanish) and currently learning Portuguese and would love another language to learn, but with so little time, an easy one like Ladino would be so helpful.

October 18, 2018

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/JonathanWexler

I have just sent a note to Duolingo. As follows:

Greetings,

<pre> My name is Jonathan Wexler and I am currently a Duolingo user, studying Portuguese. I subscribe to a conversation regarding the desire of users, to have a Ladino / Hispanyolit course on Duolingo. I was wondering if Duolingo has been approached, successfully, about the production of language courses, with costs paid by fee/donation? I would think that, depending upon cost, the funds necessary to create a ladino course. Funds could be raised, largely from the world network of Sephardic jewish communities, with possible foundation grants for language preservation from Sephardic cultural and language organizations. This could provide a partnership opportunity for preserving and invigorating a language that is otherwise vanishing, giving Duolingo notable attention and the users an invaluable tool, with the costs of development paid by the potential users. Duolingo not only has an audience, but the experience and skill to develop an effective, user-friendly and successful language program, but combined with an international community of potential users, could be a language success. Has Duolingo been successfully engaged in such a project in the past? What were, or would be, the cost? Would Duolingo be interested is discussing such a development project? If you are unaware, the base population who spoke this language as a mother tongue, was annihilated during the holocaust. In one stroke, a language was pushed to the brink of extinction. Traditional oral family education all but ceased, printed books and newspapers vanished and our traditional written script, Soletreo, became hieroglyphics overnight. My place of Origin, The Island of Rhodes, was reduced from about 1500 people to about 50, in one deportation to Auschwitz. The community of Salonika, the second largest city in Greece, was liquidated. The language was not just disrupted, it all but vanished in a 3 year period. Thank you for your consideration of my inquiry, I hope you will answer my sincere inquiry. </pre>

We shall see if they respond. If development cost was $20,000 to $30,000, I think funds could be raised pretty quickly. They generally do not respond, as they are a small team, but I contacted them as a partnership inquiry.

June 12, 2019

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/daniel929608

I would love to see a Ladino course on here. I think there'd be a lot of English, and have others have said it's a practical candidate. I'd be happy to contribute.

July 2, 2019
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