"Apples"

Translation: Äpplen

[ilmolleggi]

So does äpple in the plural have identical indefinite and definite forms?

[Anrui]

No,

Indefinite - Äpplen (Apples)

Definite - Äpplena (The apples)

[ilmolleggi]

I see!! Got confused because of the ett-words like hus/en.
Thanks a lot!

[Maurice99se]

So we -na to make plurals definate but if the word already ends with an "n" we just add "a"?

[thorr18]

This word is neuter gender; it's an "ett" word. (ett äpple, äpplet, äpplen, äpplena); "ett" words ending in vowel have 'n' form as plural. No, "-na" isn't always the way to make a plural definite, even with other neuter gender words. Example: (ett bibliotek, biblioteket, bibliotek, biblioteken). You are correct that there are lots of other words ending in 'n' where only an 'a' is added to make the plural definite, Example: (suddgummi, suddgummit, suddgummin, suddgummina). And you are correct that many words do add the "-na". Example: (en balkong, balkongen, balkonger, balkongerna).

[Johnny954520]

Is "the apple" the same as "apples"?

[Arnauti]

No, 'the apple' is äpplet and 'apples' is äpplen.

The whole word is
ett äpple 'an apple'
äpplet 'the apple'
äpplen 'apples'
äpplena 'the apples'

[smrdasde]

So hiw do you say,apple kr the apple,to me it all looks the same

[Berniebud]

"Äpple" is an 'Ett' word, so it would be "Äpplet".

The plural and definite forms of nouns are explained here:
https://www.duolingo.com/skill/sv/Plurals

[morgz789]

I'm finding with Swedish, it is just a case of learning which, one is which and applying it correctly.
We have a few words in English that, to someone who is learning, would find difficult to understand.

For example:

Apple = Apples

Child = Children

Mouse = Mice

Woman = Women

Person = People

Sheep / Fish = Sheep / Fish

All of these words are plurals, and in some cases, the plural form changes the way the whole word is pronounced. There's not always a specific rule in place, and if there is, then there are always exceptions. It's just the way that it is.