March 13, 2015

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So does äpple in the plural have identical indefinite and definite forms?



Indefinite - Äpplen (Apples)

Definite - Äpplena (The apples)


I see!! Got confused because of the ett-words like hus/en. Thanks a lot!


So we -na to make plurals definate but if the word already ends with an "n" we just add "a"?


This word is neuter gender; it's an "ett" word. (ett äpple, äpplet, äpplen, äpplena); "ett" words ending in vowel have 'n' form as plural. No, "-na" isn't always the way to make a plural definite, even with other neuter gender words. Example: (ett bibliotek, biblioteket, bibliotek, biblioteken). You are correct that there are lots of other words ending in 'n' where only an 'a' is added to make the plural definite, Example: (suddgummi, suddgummit, suddgummin, suddgummina). And you are correct that many words do add the "-na". Example: (en balkong, balkongen, balkonger, balkongerna).


I'm finding with Swedish, it is just a case of learning which, one is which and applying it correctly. We have a few words in English that, to someone who is learning, would find difficult to understand.

For example:

Apple = Apples

Child = Children

Mouse = Mice

Woman = Women

Person = People

Sheep / Fish = Sheep / Fish

All of these words are plurals, and in some cases, the plural form changes the way the whole word is pronounced. There's not always a specific rule in place, and if there is, then there are always exceptions. It's just the way that it is.


Is "the apple" the same as "apples"?


No, 'the apple' is äpplet and 'apples' is äpplen.

The whole word is
ett äpple 'an apple'
äpplet 'the apple'
äpplen 'apples'
äpplena 'the apples'


So hiw do you say,apple kr the apple,to me it all looks the same


"Äpple" is an 'Ett' word, so it would be "Äpplet".

The plural and definite forms of nouns are explained here: https://www.duolingo.com/skill/sv/Plurals

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