The new XP system is flawed.
I get what Duo is trying to do with the new XP system, get you to practice what you don't know and not just repeat the easy lessons for easy XPs.
The new system supposedly give high amounts of XPs (10,9,8) for going over content that you don't know. Low XPs for going over content that you do know (3,4,5).
However, I just revisited a lesson near the end of the tree, that I have done only once before… many days/weeks ago. I knew virtually none of the words in that lesson and had to check them all. Yet I only got 5 XPs!
Whatever system Duo is using, does not work well in judging your knowledge.
I agree. I am a huge fan of the intent. The implementation is still rough, and I find it demotivating.
It sometimes feels unfair when the user knows the content needs revision (given the number of mistakes they make while practicing) but the algorithm doesn't.
i agree. from a cognitive / educational psychology perspective the xp points should be reversed to 10xp for strengthening and 3xp for a new lesson. in life we usually don't reap rewards (actually learn something) until we practice it. whether playing in an orchestra, on an athletic team, or on a higher-order-thinking level, it is generally though practice that we become better. so, 3xp for completing a lesson and 10xp for strengthening would be consistent with research on learning.
Another way to reverse it would be to go back to 10 XP per lesson and give bonus points for new words or words in need of practice. This would make everyone happy all the time.
Even when the XP was the same I was already naturally unmotivated to practice old skills bc I don't like redoing things I've already done, even if it's useful.
The new system only serves to demotivate me even more than I naturally was.
I wonder if the XP given is being tied to the number of questions it takes you to complete the lesson. I did a Strengthen Skills lesson today on Verbs and although it was rated at 5/5 (totally golden) it took me 52 questions to complete the lesson and I did receive 10 XP for all my hard work.
I have done some other strengthening exercises previously (other days) and received 8-9 XP when the question totals make it into the 30s, even though the skill was 'golden' to begin with.
I struggle with all the different forms of words and need to repeat and practice them. I can't just push forward and do more lessons for the sake of gaining XP, so I decided I would use the strengthening option regardless of the points given because I know I need to practice, whether Duo knows it or not.
I'm wondering whether there isn't still some A/B-test going on, because I haven't seen the reduced XP (neither web nor Android). Mind you, I only do non-golden skills, but some are nearly golden.
Interesting. May I ask you to confirm this by doing a Basic 1 lesson and see how many points you get? I still only get 3 XP for Basic 1 lessons.
Ah, no. I had to strengthen it first to make it golden. I got 10 XP. Then I did it again and got 6 XP. I thought I saw people reporting getting fewer than 10 XP even though their skill wasn't yet golden, but I've never experienced that. As far as I am concerned, the system works well.