"Les filles ont les dernières jupes."

Translation:The girls have the latest skirts.

December 15, 2012



The girls have the latest skirts. Dernier cri = latest fashion.

December 16, 2012


So "les dernières jupes" doesn't mean "the final skirts"/"the last skirts" then? In that case, how would one say that?

January 14, 2014


Any hints here, I was thinking 'last' not 'latest'. How can we tell the difference?

February 7, 2019


Says the frustrated black friday shopper that wasn't there early enough.

February 14, 2014

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"Dernières" (before the noun) used in this context undoubtedly refers to "the latest" as in style/fashion. "Du dernier chic" = extremely chic. Other uses include (when it is placed before the noun), "final". Many other uses listed here as well: http://www.larousse.com/en/dictionaries/french-english/dernier/23949

March 13, 2014


The problem I have is deciding what DL will accept. I assumed the sentence meant 'latest skirts' but didn't want to risk losing a heart so went with the safe literal translation which is usually accepted. Thank you to everyone who contributed in the discussion and clarified the meaning.

March 16, 2014


the last skirts (in the shop)?

March 1, 2013


Sure. A lot of these early lessons (before you get to prepositional phrases) are going to sound like they should have more to them. But until then...

January 24, 2014


Why can't the translation be "The girls are getting the last skirts." "ont" is listed as meaning "have" "get" "catch".

February 7, 2014


What is this sentence supposed to mean? The girls have the last skirts ?

December 15, 2012


It means the girls have the fanciest skirts, the most modern ones, very fashionable.

June 10, 2013


As in latest skirts, like the latest fashion?

February 29, 2016



December 30, 2018


There is a liason between filles and ont, right? So it sounds like "l fil zon" .

February 5, 2014


Does the word "dernières" only have the accent when it's pluralized? If not, when should I use it with the accent, and when shouldn't I? I've seen it both ways in this lesson.

November 19, 2013


Masculine = dernier, derniers

Feminine = dernière, dernières

November 23, 2013


Ah, merci. I just noticed this behavior on another word as well. Patterns help. :)

November 25, 2013


Try not to think of it as rules, but, like you also said: patterns. It's a pronunciation thing. The pronunciation of "derniers" is on par with "dernié" whereas adding the "-e/-es" onto the end makes you have to pronounce that "r," so the word shifts to "dernière(s)."

Accents are there (in most languages) to help guide your pronunciation, so they most all logically follow from however you'd be pronouncing the word. I've seen the same with German Umlaute and with Spanish accents.

It's very much a pattern of pronunciation.

April 2, 2014


that's helpful, thanks

December 30, 2013


why not the top skirts??

April 8, 2014


Dernière only means "top" in the sense of a space far away when considered vertically, e.g. the top drawer of a dresser or top floor of a building. Even in that sense, it's still a sort of "last" or "final" when starting from the bottom of something. It's difficult to see a case for that here. I suppose you argue that it refers to some dresses on the top rack or something, but that's a real stretch.

April 8, 2014


Derniere Dance :D C'est facile a se rappeler...

February 21, 2016

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    Why i heard: 'le fiy on' not 'le fiy zon'??

    April 27, 2018


    The BANGS rule means Beauty-age-number-goodness-size, yes? So why is "latest" in front of "jupes"? Is it because "latest" is a "kind of" number? Would ""earliest" also go before a noun?

    May 9, 2018


    BANGS is a rule of thumb, not an absolute rule. When an adjective has a figurative meaning it goes before the noun, when it has a literal meaning it goes after the noun.

    Numbers always go before the noun. "dernier|ère" (last) is the opposite of "premier|ère" (first). In this sentence, "dernières" means "latest" or "last so far" rather than just the usual meaning of "last", because it's talking about the latest fashion, not the last dresses.

    July 15, 2018


    When do I use "daughters" and when "girls" ?

    June 24, 2018


    Well, in English we do talk about "the (very) last word in fashion" so it's no big stretch to les dernieres jupes.

    January 30, 2019
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