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"Qui d'entre nous est parfait ?"

Translation:Who among us is perfect?

December 16, 2012

22 Comments


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Thrissel

I would be more interested in why it's "qui d'entre" and not just "qui entre" - is it because "qui" ends with a vowel?


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/learner96

"qui entre nous" would imply "who between us", literalrly between two people. whereas "qui d'entre nous" means "who among us" in a group of people.


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/FreddyBenelli

Learner96's answer is correct. To give a tiny bit more explanation: The "d'" in question is the word "de" (of or from) with the e removed because the following word starts with a vowel. Literally, it could be translated "who from between us?" which is a perhaps odd way of asking "who in our midst?"

You can contrast this usage with the phrase "Entre nous," which is the french way of saying "Between you and me" (in confidence)


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/PacoLicea

I got it wrong for writing this: Who is perfect among us? instead of this: Who amongst us is perfect? Isn't this too subtle a difference?


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/northernguy

I think Duo doesn't like reversing the order of phrases in declarative statements even if it still makes sense. Duo accepts both among and amongst.

To allow moving phrases around would require much, much more complex programming for the machine.


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/accomman

Sorry, but this is the dumbest one yet. Among vs. Amongst?


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/northernguy

Amongst is British usage or anachronistic American.

Among is contemporary American.


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/drockalgzemoser

I got demoted for putting "who" rather than "whom" a while back.


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/SandwichMaker

Kind of confuses you as to which language we're here to learn...


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/drockalgzemoser

Hey... I gotta admit, I've learned a bit of both while I've been doing this :)


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/northernguy

There are very definite rules in English for who versus whom.


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/GregHullender

Is there a difference between d'entre and parmi?


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/frinnbozzee

I agree this is a strange sentence.


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/northernguy

It's an oft quoted line from Les Miserables.


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/NicklasK

I hate getting getting mistakes for these kind of silly semantics.


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/drockalgzemoser

I like to look at it this way... the more mistakes I report, the less that people after me will have to suffer the way I did :)


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/snoopy7777

I like between us . Isn't among us " Parmi nous " ?


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/jmangona

Yes, that was my question as well. Is this an idiomatic phrase? Or am I misunderstanding the difference between parmi and entre?

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