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'gustar' no es facil

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"Ya que le gustamos, a nosotros nos gusta él." -why

I have problems with the verb 'gustar'

1) My first question: Are my sentences correct?

  • Él las visita a ellas.
  • Él los visita a ellos.
  • Él les lee un libro a ellas.

2) Is it the same like:

  • A ellas las visita él. = Él las visita a ellas.

3) ..

  • A mi me gusta él. = I like him. ?
  • A ellas las visita él. = They(=the girls) visit him.

4) I have learned so far, those sentences with 'gusta'. Are these sentences correct?

  • A mi me gusta cada diario. A mi me gusta un gato.
  • A ti te gusta el gato.
  • A su esposa le gusta todo.
  • A mucha gente le gusta nuestro libros.
  • A ella le gusta la gata.
  • Al hombre le gusta la fruta.

I have learned to use 'gusta' because the word after 'gusta' es singular. Is it true for the constructions above that one uses 'gusta' because of the singular after 'gusta'?

5) I have learned so far, to use 'gustan', when after gustar follows the plural. Is this true/correct? Are these sentences correct?

  • A mi me gustan los diarios. A mi me gustan los gatos.
  • A ti te gustan los gatos.
  • A su esposa le gustan los perros.
  • A mucha gente le gustan nuestros libros.
  • A ella le gustan las gatas.
  • A los hombres les gustan los perros.

6) Is it correct? What words do I have to put between the '?X?' ?

  • yo --> a mi me
  • tú --> a ti te
  • él --> a ?1? lo
  • ella --> a ?2? la
  • nosotros --> a nosotros nos
  • vosotros --> a vosotros vos
  • usted --> a usted ?3?
  • ustedes --> a ustedes ?4?
  • ellos --> a ellos los
  • ellas --> a ellas las

After I understood 1-6, ...

7) When do I need to use 'yo gusto', 'tú gustas', ... ?

I think I always had to use 'gusta' because we spoke about the third person singular (=el perro), is it right?

  • A mi me gusta el perro.= El perro me gusta a mi.?
  • A ti te gusta el perro = El perro te gusta a ti. ?

In according to this, has it to be:

  • [(1 Ich gefalle dem Hund. 2 Du gefällst dem Hund. 3 Er gefällt dem Hund.)]
  • 1 Al perro le gusto mi. ? = The dog likes me.
  • 2 Al perro le gustas ti. ? = The dog likes you.
  • 3 Al perro le gusta él. = The dog likes him.
3 years ago

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https://www.duolingo.com/Abendbrot
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Ich gebe zu, ich bin zu faul/ zu k. o., um im Internet alle Seiten von Anfang bis Ende durchzulesen. Der zweite Link ist gut, sehr übersichtlich für meine k. o.-en Augen. Vielen Dank, Tnel. Viele schreiben einiges Nützliches hinein, aber andere Dinge und Erklärungen fehlen trotzdem. Das Bequemste und Effektivste ist es, mir meine Fragen zielgenau beantworten zu lassen.

3 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/tnel1
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Ich verstehe. Ich wünsche, dass meine Spanischgrammatik besser wäre. :) But the last one is really, really helpful!

3 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Ilmarien
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Ich gefalle dem Hund = Al perro le gusto yo

Du gefällst dem Hund = Al perro le gustas

Er gefällt dem Hund = Al perro le gusta él.

Though to be honest, I'm not sure how often "gustar" is actually used for stuff like this. I've seen it occasionally, but I think it's more common to use "querer" when talking about liking a person. El perro te quiere.

Also, visitar works differently. "A ellas las visita él" is always going to be "he visits them."

As for your dative pronouns:

yo --> a mi me

tú --> a ti te

él --> a él le ("lo" is accusative)

ella --> a ella le ("la" is accusative)

nosotros --> a nosotros nos

vosotros --> a vosotros os

usted --> a usted le (You use la/lo when it's accusative)

ustedes --> a ustedes les (You use las/los when it's accusative)

ellos --> a ellos les ("Los" is accusative)

ellas --> a ellas les ("Las" is accusative)

You usually don't need to add "a mi," "a ti," etc. in all the time though. Some dialects do so more often than others, but as far as I'm aware, they're normally just added for emphasis.

3 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Abendbrot
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Die Frauen gefallen uns. --> A las mujeres les gustamos. ? --> en corto: Les gustamos. o Las gustamos. ?

3 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Ilmarien
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"Die Frauen gefallen uns" means "we like the women," doesn't it? My German is super rusty, but I thought they used the same construction. In that case, it'd be "nos gustan las mujeres."

When it's the women liking something, it's algo les gusta a las mujeres.

3 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Abendbrot
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okay.

Thanks for the accusative case.

Ich glaube, jetzt haben sich die Knoten in meinem Kopf gelöst. (~ Now I think I got it.)

PS: Right. "Die Frauen gefallen uns" means "we like the women"

3 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/donatBri2

wow so cool

3 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/paradoja
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Native Spanish speaker:

1) Sí, están bien.

2) Sí, es lo mismo.

3)

  • A mi me gusta él. = I like him. → Bien
  • A ellas las visita él. = They(=the girls) visit him. → Mal

"A ellas las visita él" is "He visits them".

The subject with the verb "visitar" is the one visiting, as in the verb "to visit" in English.

The subject in the verb "gustar" is the thing being liked. In English, though, the subject of "to like" is the person that likes, not the thing being liked. "Gustar", doesn't work like "to like".

4) Todas bien, salvo un detalle en una (all correct, except for a little detail in a phrase):

A mucha gente le gusta nuestro libros. → I guess you mean "A mucha gente le gusta nuestro libro".

5) Todas bien.

6) Some corrections:

  • yo -- a mi me
  • tú -- a ti te
  • él -- a él le
  • ella -- a ella le
  • nosotros -- a nosotros nos
  • vosotros -- a vosotros les / a ustedes les
  • usted -- a usted le
  • ustedes -- a ustedes les
  • ellos -- a ellos les
  • ellas -- a ellas les

(With le/la, there are variations in zones, some considered "not correct" in formal speech http://blogs.transparent.com/spanish/problems-using-la-le-lo-laismo-leismo-loismo/ )

7) When do I need to use 'yo gusto', 'tú gustas', ... ?

Yo gusto → I am liked

Yo gusto a Luisa → I am liked by Luisa / Luisa likes me

Tú gustas a Luisa - Luisa likes you

(As you see, the subject of the verb is the thing being liked)

The last three phrases corrected:

  • 1 Al perro le gusto yo. = The dog likes me.

  • 2 Al perro le gustas tú. = The dog likes you.

  • 3 Al perro le gusta él. = The dog likes him.

3 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/truelefty
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It's "a vosotros os"


Y respecto a esto:

Yo gusto [a ella] → I am liked [by her]
Yo gusto de ... => I like ...

Yo gusto a Luisa → I am liked by Luisa / Luisa likes me
Yo gusto de Luisa => I like Luisa

Tú gustas a Luisa - Luisa likes you
Tú gustas de Luisa => You like Luisa

Y, en este caso, puede ser "like" o "love".

3 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/paradoja
paradoja
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Oh, sorry, yes, it's "vosotros os" (I don't use that form, was confused).

La forma "Yo gusto de", de esa forma, no la he oído nunca, pero supongo que será de otras zonas del español.

3 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Ilmarien
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Gustar de? Could I ask what dialect that is? It looks a lot like the way Portuguese uses the verb, so I'm really curious.

3 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Abendbrot
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Danke.

Gut, dann habe ich es hoffentlich endgültig verstanden. ~Fine, I think I also understood the rest. ('laismo' and the other two words have to wait.)

Tú gustas a mi me. A mi me gustas tú. Me gustas.

3 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/truelefty
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Die Korrekturen von G2DIPI (ich selbst!):


"Ya que le gustamos, a nosotros nos gusta él." -why: What's your specific doubt with this sentence?

I have problems with the verb 'gustar'

1) My first question: Are my sentences correct? - Yes, all of them ;)

Él las visita a ellas. Él los visita a ellos. Él les lee un libro a ellas. 2) Is it the same like:

A ellas las visita él. = Él las visita a ellas. - It's the same ;) 3) ..

A mi me gusta él. = I like him. ? - This could mean that you are in love with "him". Yes, it's right, or "Él me gusta". Both mean the same, but "Él me gusta = Me gusta él" is more natural.
A ellas las visita él. = They(=the girls) visit him. - No. => A ellas las visita él = He visits them[=the girls].

"They visit him" = "Ellas lo visitan a él"

4) I have learned so far, these sentences with 'gusta'. Are these sentences correct?

A mi me gusta cada diario. A mi me gusta un gato.
A ti te gusta el gato.
A su esposa le gusta todo.
A mucha gente le gustan nuestros libros. - "Libros" = Bücher, more than one book = mehr als ein Buch.
A ella le gusta la gata.
Al hombre le gusta la fruta.

I have learned to use 'gusta' because the word after 'gusta' es singular. Is it true for the constructions above that one uses 'gusta' because of the singular after 'gusta'? - The word after gusta is singular and after gustan it's plural, because "gustan" itself is a plural word.

  • A mi me gusta la casa. [Only one house]
  • A mi me gustan las casas. [More than one house]

5) I have learned so far, to use 'gustan', when after gustar follows the plural. Is this true/correct? Are these sentences correct? - Yes.

A mi me gustan los diarios. A mi me gustan los gatos.
A ti te gustan los gatos.
A su esposa le gustan los perros.
A mucha gente le gustan nuestros libros.
A ella le gustan las gatas.
A los hombres les gustan los perros.

Every sentence is correct there ;)

6) Is it correct? What words do I have to put between the '?X?' ?

yo --> a mi me tú --> a ti te él --> a ?1? lo - No, "a él le".
ella --> a ?2? la - No, "a ella le".
nosotros --> a nosotros nos vosotros --> a vosotros vos - No, "a vosotros os".
usted --> a usted ?3? - "A usted le"
ustedes --> a ustedes ?4? - "A ustedes les"
ellos --> a ellos los - No, "a ellos les"
ellas --> a ellas las - No, "a ellas les"
After I understood 1-6, ...

7) When do I need to use 'yo gusto', 'tú gustas', ... ?

I think I always had to use 'gusta' because we spoke about the third person singular (=el perro), is it right? - Check my corrections below:

A mi me gusta el perro.= El perro me gusta a mi.? - Richtig
A ti te gusta el perro = El perro te gusta a ti. ? - Richtig
According to this, it has to be:

[(1 Ich gefalle dem Hund. 2 Du gefällst dem Hund. 3 Er gefällt dem Hund.)]

  • 1 Al perro le gusto mi. [No] ? = The dog likes me.: In this case the verb "gustar" has another meaning, if you say "Al perro le gusto", it means "The dog is in love with me". To say "The dog likes me" it's "El perro me quiere"

2 Al perro le gustas ti. (No)? = The dog likes you. - Same here, "Al perro le gustas" or "Le gustas al perro" [das gleiche], means "The dog is in love with you". To say "The dog likes you" it's "El perro te quiere".

3 Al perro le gusta él. = The dog likes him. Again, the same. "Al perro le gusta él" or "Él le gusta al perro" means "The dog is in love with him". To say "The dog likes him", it's "El perro lo quiere [a él]" (the 'a él' is optional).

3 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Abendbrot
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You should not correct my English, what you did not understand proper. That is the task for English natives. ;)

1- I have learned those sentences by Duolingo, which I did not write here. Now these sentences are a selection to show sentences as examples with 'gusta'.

2- 'has it to be' is a question -I know the important facts, but not all. Therefore my results could be wrong.


3 years ago

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You should not correct my English, what you did not understand proper. That is the task for English natives. ;) - I only correct common mistakes, or things that a person with a good English level can correct... But I agree with you that that's the native speakers' task XD

1- I have learned those sentences by Duolingo, which I did not write here. Now these sentences are a selection to show sentences as examples with 'gusta'. - But you are showing them right after that sentence, so it's better [not the only correct way] to say "these" [diese].

2- 'has it to be' is a question -I know the important facts, but not all. Therefore my results could be wrong. - But that construction is not used in the question form. You could say "Should it be like this?".

But from now I'll focus in correcting only your Spanish, if you prefer that ;)

3 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Abendbrot
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no I don't show them. There are 3 hands full of sentences I collected from Duo or I created by myself. And some of them and some new ones, which are not on my list, you can see and read here.

Yeap, I like when you control and correct my Spanish.

3 years ago

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  • no I don't show them. There are 3 hands full of sentences I collected from Duo or I created by myself. And some of them and some new ones, which are not on my list, you can see and read here. - Then, your way [those] is very correct ;) My bad ;S

  • Yeap, I like when you control and correct my Spanish. - And I like to correct and control your Spanish! Therefore, it's a perfect cycle ;)

3 years ago

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I understand: "" To say "The dog likes me" it's "El perro me quiere" "" That is clear.

"Al perro le gusto", it means "The dog is in love with me".

-->"The dog is in love with me"= that is 'dog loves me and the I love the dog'.? or am I too tried? Otherwise I would translate it into 'The dog loves me.', but this would be the same like 'the dog likes me'?

But this is the next point I have to clear. "Al perro le gusto"-I don't understand such sentences, when the form of gustar and the 'les'/'le'/'lo'/'me'/... don't belong together.

3 years ago

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"The dog is in love with me" = "The dog loves me". But you can be either [also] in love with the dog or not [only the dog loves you, but you don't].

"The dog loves me" = The dog wants to be my boy/girl/dog?friend
"The dog likes me" = The dog finds me kind or friendly.


"[Yo] le gusto al perro" = "Al perro le gusto" - It's the special case of the verb "gustar" when it means "to be in love". = "The dog is in love with me [it wants to be my boy/girl/dog?friend]".

"Yo le agrado al perro" = "Al perro le agrado" - "Agrado" is the word that you should use in this case, when you want to say "The dog likes me".
"Agradar" means "to give pleasure, happiness, or gratification to someone or something".


If you still have doubts feel free to ask me as many times as you want ;)

3 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/jjd1123
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Do you now this song?

Anyway, I think Ilmarien has got the right of it: The concept is pretty similar to German "gefallen" (or English "(to) please", although as far as I know it's not used very often in place of "(to) like"), i.e. the object or person that is liked is actually the grammatical subject. (If your question was more in regard to the pronouns and stuff I think that tnel1's and Ilmarien's answers already covered that better than I could.)

3 years ago
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