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Let's make Basque happen!

Here's our open letter to the Duolingo staff on creating the Basque course, please take a look and share your support!

¿QUIERES AYUDAR A CREAR EL CURSO DE EUSKARA? AQUI TIENES UNA GUIA QUE TE EXPLICA QUE HAY QUE HACER PARA HACER LA SOLICITUD!

We have also set up a Discord server to practice Basque and ask for help learning, whether you're a native speaker or a complete beginner, feel free to join!

Also check out "Duo goes to the Basque Country"!

Interested in learning now? Here are some resources to get you started!

Duo euskaraz bizi da

(en castellano abajo)

Basque -- also known as Euskera or Euskara -- is commonly (almost always?) mentioned in new language suggestion topics here on Duolingo and there's really no wonder why, it's an ancient language predating nearly every other existing language in Europe. It's a language that fascinates people for its history, its condition as a language isolate (surrounded by Romance languages on all fronts), and the interesting grammatical structure of the language.

But apart from the huge interest in Basque and its cultural heritage, there's another condition that makes Basque unique among other languages up for adoption here at Duolingo: nearly every Basque speaker is bilingual in either Spanish or French.

I'd like to open this topic up to brainstorm ways to get Basque accepted as a language here at Duolingo and potentially start organizing a course beforehand, perhaps analyzing other courses and coming up with a basic tree structure, finding people qualified to put the course together, and just generally put some pressure on the Duolingo staff so that they can see that there is a huge demand for a Basque course.

Let's get things rolling!


El euskara (o euskera) es un idioma que se menciona muy a menudo en las discusiones de los próximos idiomas que se quisieran ver aquí en Duolingo, y eso no es para nada sorprendente, ya que es un idioma antiguo que predata casi cualquier otro idioma aún existente en Europa. Es un idioma que fascina a la gente tanto por su historia y condición como lengua aislada, rodeado en cada dirección por lenguas románicas, como por la estructura interesante de su gramática.

Pero no es solamente este gran interés en el euskara y su patrimonio cultural la razón única en favor de la creación de un curso de euskara aquí en Duolingo, también está el hecho de que casi todxs lxs "euskaldunak" son bilingües, o en el castellano o en el francés, y eso ayudará infinítamente con la preparación y traducción del curso y simplificará la búsqueda de candidatxs calificadxs para la creación del curso.

Quisiera abrir este tema para proponer ideas y buscar maneras para que se acepte el euskara aquí en Duolingo y potencialmente para organizar el curso de antemano. Tal vez se pueda analizar otros cursos ya hechos para sacar ideas y diseñar nuestro propio árbol, por ejemplo. También podemos empezar a unir gente para el proyecto, es decir, buscar futurxs moderadorxs y generalmente presionar al personal de Duolingo para que vean que existe una verdadera demanda por un curso de euskera.

Vamos, ¡empecemos ya!

March 22, 2015

713 Comments


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/BryanAJParry

I definitely would start learning Basque on Duolingo. It's a great language, completely unique, spoken by hundreds of thousands of people.


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Azure_Waters

This is wonderful! :) I support this 100% I am so excited! I hope Basque comes here soon!!


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/crush

Thanks for the support! Please spread the word, the more people that get involved/interested the better chances we'll have! We also still need more volunteers to create the course, so if you've got any Basque friends... ;)


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/RandallR2

If you need any help I'm part Basque ethnically ( Basque still spoken a bit in the family and by myself) , We left the French Basque region for Canada in part due to poverty and lack of religious persecution because of the witch trials in France and in Spain against the practice of Basque paganism and they kept the surname Etxeberria. I'd be more then happy to be a volunteer. I also have hundreds of dollars worth of Basque language learning materials and some material on the old basque pre-christian religion some of which was passed down as oral history.


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/crush

It would be amazing if you sent in an application and got in touch with some friends/family members to see if anyone would be interested in volunteering. What we really need is for Duolingo to see that there's a big interest in a Basque course as well as sufficient (active) volunteers to put the course together. Currently we've got 8 confirmed volunteers who've sent in incubator applications, though not all of them are active anymore. There might be others that i don't know about as well. It's also great to see another Basque speaker from the French side of the Basque Country :)

It's odd you mention that, i've been working on making interlinear translations (to help others study Basque) of old Basque mythology stories, today i translated the story of Kixmi and the end of the "Jentilak". I'd love to know what Basque learning resources you've gathered together, lately my main resource for studying Basque has been online dictionaries, Basque grammars, and native speakers. I've been wanting to put together a more modern way of studying Basque (ie. a website similar to Duolingo, a mobile app, or perhaps some sort of audio course along the lines of the Language Transfer courses) for a while now.


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/RandallR2

I would love to help you on the translations of old basque mythology stories. A fair amount of my information has come from research but a lot of my stories come from the fact my family is still relatively attached to the old ways. It's an interesting story my families village right near Donibane Lohizune during the witch trials in ipar euskal herria. "https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Basque_witch_trials" Rather then publicly identifying as a family of Pagans in catholic Europe they eventually came over here while the religion was still fading due to poverty and being pagans in a catholic nation; due to my families focus on mari likely something similar to the sorginak. I'm not sure if you know of the Sorginak but they are the assistants of Anbotoko Mari one of the key figures in the basque mythology. "She was married to the god Sugaar (also known as Sugoi or Maju). Legends connect her to the weather: when she and Maju travelled together hail would fall, her departures from her cave would be accompanied by storms or droughts, and which cave she lived in at different times would determine dry or wet weather: wet when she was in Anboto; dry when she was elsewhere (the details vary)." I've sent my application in and no response as of yet I would love to get the ball rolling on this course we have the numbers to do this course quickly and without much issue.


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/crush

It's funny you mention Mari as i just finished translating a little document (in large part) about her: http://amaroatxo.amaroa.com/euskal-herriko-pertsonaia-mitologikoak/antzinako-euskal-jainkoak

I'm in the process of making an online editor to simplify the translation process (it's word for word translations with additional idiomatic translations where the meaning isn't immediately obvious from context, which happens quite a bit in Basque). This is the site: http://learn-to-read-foreign-languages.com/

I've written a small Python editor which i could pass your way along with the texts of stories i'm translating (and what i've currently translated) if you're really interested :)

It's more of a language learning tool to get you reading fluently in Basque than beautiful literary translations of the original texts, eventually i plan to add grammar notes for words (eg. link to appropriate conjugation charts or explanations of a certain case, etc.), but the software currently doesn't handle that information yet. I'd also like to try to get some more literary stuff, say a novel or some more modern short stories. Most of the Public Domain stuff isn't in Batua and my Basque isn't up to the task of converting it over to Batua, so i'm hoping once i get these myths translated (they were "donated" to us and based mostly on Barandiaran's mythology collections) and can share the final product with some Basque authors or publication houses to see if they'd be willing to donate or let us pay a lump sum to use a story or two.


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/santimontouliu

You know, my grandma's surname is Echevarría, and I've heard she's got some family in Canada. I'm Uruguayan, and although I know the surname is not exactly the same, they do change sometimes mostly due to spelling conventions, so maybe it was the same surname in the beginning and we're related? It would be so amazing and interesting to find am extremely far relative in here... Cheers!


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/RandallR2

I think we are related for sure. The surname started off as Etxeberria in the Basque country. It's entirely possible there's a connection between our family tree's for sure! .. Cheers!


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Marigorri

I would not expect everybody with the name Etxeberria, or a spelling variation of it, to be related. It is a very common name in Basque Country, both for houses and people. I once tried to buy a house named Etcheberria, as you probably know it means 'the new house'. (This house was far from new, but of course it was named when it was the new house.)


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Marigorri

I agree it would be fun if you found a relative. It's just that with common names people can share a name even when they are not related.


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/santimontouliu

Well, of course the possibilities are really small, but the fact that the surname is the same, and knowing about my family's history, we could totally be related, as far as I know. Obviously we can't tell if we're actually related just by a simple post, but it would be really fun if we were...


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/RandallR2

I just did some digging in my family tree I have roots in Gipuzkoa, Bizkaia but the majority seems to be in rural Labourd in the city of bayonne and the Village of Ascain just on the border with st.jean de luz and probably a 15-25 minute drive from Spain. According to oral history my relatives lived right by a small tributary to the nivelle river called Etxeberri which is used as the border between the two towns.


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Azure_Waters

I will be on the look out! :)


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Ilmarien

Good luck! The fact that it's so different from anything else has scared me away so far, but I would love a chance to learn more about it.


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/crush

Thanks! It's really not as scary as it sounds, i'd say it's more fun and interesting than it is scary! Hopefully the course will come to Duolingo one day and you'll get the chance to delve into the language more deeply!


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Mundgeirr

Desde Castilla os deseo muchísimo ánimo! Por desgracia el euskara no tiene una estructura educativa tan eficiente como el catalán, por tanto un curso en euskara en duolingo ayudaría mucho a la difusión del idioma, especialmente entre aquellos que vivimos lejos de vuestra maravillosa tierra. En todos los posts sobre encuestas de cursos de duolingo siempre hablo del vasco y seguiré haciéndolo. Mucha suerte y espero que consigamos tener el vasco en Duolingo :D


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/anebz

muchas gracias! Es verdad que no hay muchas plataformas para aprender euskera, y luego nos quejamos de que nadie lo aprende. A ver si conseguimos que lo acepten y así la gente lo conoce más!


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Golden_Owl

Eres euskaldun anebz?


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Golden_Owl

Ta ez zaoz interesaute kurtsue iteko ala?


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/anebz

bai noski baño okupauta nago eta ezingo nioke denbora asko dedikatu


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/PauBofill

No sé ni pipa de vasco, pero creo que he entendido que te ha preguntado si estás interesado en hacer un curso de vasco, pero tú le has dicho que no lo sabes porque estás ocupado. ¿Es así?


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/anebz

sii! lo que yo he dicho es que claro que estoy interesado pero que estoy ocupado y no le podria dedicar mucho tiempo


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/PauBofill

jaja me suenan algunas palabras en vasco porque mis primos viven en Guipuzkoa y me las han enseñado, pero no sé casi nada ;)


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/anebz

pues para no saber casi nada has sabido casi exactamente lo que hemos dicho! :)


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/PauBofill

La verdad es que me encantaría aprender Euskera, pero aún no he encontrado cómo ni cuándo. Estoy aprendiendo otros idiomas y para aprender vasco de verdad necesito tiempo ni tampoco lo puedo hacer de cualquier forma. ¿Sabéis algo respeto si se podrá crear un curso en Duolingo?


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/anebz

En general esperábamos que entrase en la incubadora con el catalán, pero no ha sido así. No se sabe por qué no se añade, estamos varios que hemos enviado solicitud pero no hay noticias. Creo que para hacer el curso de euskera habría que contactar con algún profesor de euskera o un lingüista, porque creo que todos los que estamos somos hablantes pero yo por lo menos no sé por qué las cosas son como son, simplemente lo he aprendido asi. Asi que estamos esperando a Duolingo a que alguien diga algo


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/PauBofill

Casi nada significa que sé decir bai, agur, kaixo, eskerrik asko, perritxiko (¿se escribe así? ¿Significa champiñon verdad?) y alguna palabra que acabo de aprender ahora con alguna ikasgai en DL ;)


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/anebz

en batua se escribe perretxiku, pero se entiende :)


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/odeigorri

tienes un pequeño fallo, es perretxiko, no perritxiko y si es champiñon. Agur bero bat (un cordial saludo) ❤❤❤❤❤ una mas ;)


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/PauBofill

Yo también envié la solicitud para ayudar en el curso de catalán, pero al final cogieron a otros voluntarios. No entiendo por qué DL no acepta que se vayan haciendo cursos cuando hay voluntarios para hacerlos, debe ser por lo que tú dices, que necesitan pruebas de que se sepa bien como hacer el curso y si no hay ningún lingüista no les es suficiente :( Pero hay muchos de vosotros que tendréis un buen conocimiento de ambos lenguas sin ser profesor o nada por el estilo. Creo que lo que buscan es experiencia en este tema de aprendizaje de idiomas.


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/crush

Eso y también que exista gran interés en el idioma, hay varias personas interesadas en ayudar a crear el curso y un montón de gente que lo quiere aprender, pero a lo mejor todavía no es suficiente, no lo sé. Me encantaría que lo añadieran a la incubadora, pero por el momento nos tendremos que resignar a utilizar los otros cursos disponibles, algunos que la verdad son bastante buenos (por ejemplo, el de ikasten.net).


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/PauBofill

ah jaja bueno casi ;)


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/subetealanutria

Para los castellanos sería genial. Lamentablemente, es muy difícil encontrar sitios donde se enseñe esukera.


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Esperakantisto

The suggestion to teach Basque through Spanish medium is understandable because of the two languages' mutual geographic proximity in the Iberian Peninsula, but please do not overlook the possibility of teaching Basque via English. A highly respected Basque language program is taught at the University of Nevada's Reno campus, which offers a minor program in the language. Also the University of Nevada Press publishes grammars and dictionaries for Basque. Maybe Duolingo could locate some volunteer native speakers or advanced Basque learners in Nevada.


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/crush

It's not only the Basque Country's location but also the fact that the majority of Basque speakers are natively bilingual in Spanish and Basque. There's another smaller group of speakers bilingual in French and Basque. If we could find speakers with an advanced level in both Basque and English, that would be great. However, i feel like it'd be easier to start off with a Basque-Spanish (or Basque-French) course and use that as a basis for a later Basque-English course. I'd be happy with any of the three courses.

I know there are several pockets of people of Basque descent in the US -- Idaho and Nevada, are the two places that immediately come to mind. I don't know if they've passed on the language, though. The idea of getting in touch with the University of Nevada's Center for Basque Studies is a good idea, though. Perhaps we could find some people interested in volunteering for a Basque-English course. The "The Basque Language: A Practical Introduction" book i'm currently using was actually put out on the University of Nevada press.

Dankon pro la ideo ;)


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Rappelke

I vote for Basque from English - mainly because it's neither French nor Spanish, so there are less like to be problems in finding a unified team. Also, English is the official language of the European Union (since it was even before the UK joined, so t will probably continue to be if the UK goes through with this Brexit madness). And there's this University of Nevada interest in promoting the language. (The fact I don't know any Spanish was of course completely beside the point in making my decision.)


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Marigorri

Oh yes, please, Basque from English. I don't know much more Spanish than I learned in Duolingo and that's not enough to learn another language from. Even with the Brexit thing going on, English is still a lot easier than either Spanish or French. (No, I am not English.)


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Jesus849123

We'll keep on trying too Basque from English :)


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/crush

The issue is that almost all Basque speakers (on the Spanish side) are also native Spanish speakers. There are far fewer Basque speakers with native English skills. But we will definitely be pushing for both courses to be made eventually :)


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/AdrinOruet

I'd like to participate in the basque course for native spanish speakers since I speak basque nahiko dexente nik uste and I'm a native spanish speaker. I would be interested in the basque course for english speakers as well, but I'm not a native english speaker. I haven't got any problem with speaking the english language but I'm not a native speaker either.


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/crush

If you could send an application in to the incubator (there's a link at the very top with instructions) that would be great! We've been working on putting together an outline of the course, should be ready to share here within a few weeks.


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Marigorri

I understand that it would be easier to create a Basque course from Spanish. For me however (and many others I would think) it would mean learning Spanish while trying to learn Basque. So I really hope you guys will manage to create a course Basque from English.


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Jesus849123

Campaña en reddit. Reddit campaign https://www.reddit.com/r/duolingo/comments/5mt5b0/lets_make_basque_happen_duolingo/

Please enter here and comment something and give a positive vote would help us a lot. Many reporters read and take news of reddit, and they would do feed back in this forum ours

Por favor entrad aquí y comentar algo y dar un voto positivo nos ayudaría mucho. Muchos periodistas leen y sacan noticias de reddit, ademaás harían feed back en este foro nuestro


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Jesus849123

Yes, Marigorri, You're right :)


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Dfkas

Have three lingots! I wish you luck in the creation of Basque!


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/crush

Thanks, we'll need it (that and a lot of elbow grease!) :)


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/BryanAJParry

@ Tio_Makina (Duolingo won't let me reply to your comment directly, for some reason)

Yes, it's very sad what's happening to Basque in the French Basque Country and in Navarre. But Pais Basco (Bizkaia, Alaba, Gipuzkoa) gives us hope, for the local government there has enacted policies in the last generation or so which are bearing real fruit. If these policies are replicated in the other seven Basque provinces, the future will be bright.

Although, bear in mind that the south of Navarre has always been borderline Basque anyway; I don't think the public in the south of Navarre are particularly interested in Basque, although the north of Navarre is quite different.


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/crush

Though there are still young Basque speakers in the Iparralde. I've come across quite a few music groups, for example, made by young people. As Azais mentioned, there are bilingual schools and ikastolak (generally primary/secondary schools which use Basque as the teaching medium) in France, though as far as i know the ikastolak aren't a part of the French public school system (though according to Wikipedia teachers are paid by the French Ministry of Education). There are definitely far fewer Basque speakers in the Northern Basque Country, but i hopefully that number will start to rise.


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Azais

You're right ikastolak aren't part of the french public school system (they are mostly privately financed I think) but bilingual schools are state-founded.

More recently Ustaritz (in France) tried to make basque the official language of the city (equal with french). It was cancelled by the judge, because it was considered the city hadn't the competence to do so. http://www.sudouest.fr/2014/06/27/langue-basque-anticonstitutionnelle-la-deliberation-d-ustaritz-ira-au-tribunal-administratif-1598999-4018.php. The case isn't over yet I think, another judge has to rule again on the subject. After that they'll probably go to the Court of Human Rights.

But I don't think that France is against minority language in general, because there is no consensus. Some people see it as a threat to a national identity, others as the expression of France in all its cultural diversity. It's an old debate, and it isn't closed.


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/InsaneCule

Historically, France is VERY against minorities languages. Though to their credit, they've gotten much better...


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Eduardo_Dinis

You're right but i believe that the authenticity of euskara are the diversity of its dialects. I doubt France will ever recongnize any other regional language, for economic and political reasons. I think euskara batua spoken in Euskadi is different from traditional eskuara spoken in Iparralde: Here you'll find some informations on my blog: http://euskal-gasconha.blogspot.fr/ Addio !


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/BryanAJParry

The Basque dialects are all quite different -- hence why Batua was created!


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Golden_Owl

If someone studies Batua seriously there won't be any problems with dialects.Batua includes all the vocabulary of the other dialects.However it is impossible to include all this stuff in a basic course on Duolingo.


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/iainsona

Yes, it's more like a language continuum with at least three languages in the Basque family ... but they prefer to call it one language ... so we do.


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/BryanAJParry

What makes something a separate language is always blurry at the edges. Scots, for example, is in a continuum with English. But at the broad end, Scots -- where it largely derives from the history forms of Old English spoken in the North -- in my view is undoubtedly a separate language. It's all very confusing. Suffice to say, I doubt we may get a Basque course, let alone Guipuzkoan, Bizkaian, and so on!


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/iainsona

I also view Doric and the other Scots dialects as a language continuum unto themselves; a separate language in the West Germanic family; a dying language that has almost been completely supplanted by English; it is in much greater danger of disappearing than Scots Gaelic.

I truly hope though that we start seeing the number of language courses incubating here start to grow almost exponentially; I am a true omniglot-wannabe; I already speak several languages poorly but passably --- like Mandarin and Japanese. :-)


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/BryanAJParry

iainsona, agreed! It seems that the closer a language it is to another, the likelier it is to disappear. Take various creoles which end up decreolising. It's a very, very sad process. Wow can you imagine a Doric Scots Duolingo!!! (incidentally, I was one of those who helped set up the Doric Scots wikipedia. Very glad to see it doing well)


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/BryanAJParry

I may be wrong, but I remember hearing that Euskera Batua was largely based on the Gipuzkoan dialect. So, yeah, you're completely right.


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/crush

Yeah, it's mostly based on the Gipuzkoan (central) dialect, but not exclusively. I believe it's because it was considered to be a sort of meeting ground between the western and eastern dialects and also because that seems to be were Basque was preserved the best.


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Eduardo_Dinis

That's it, euskara batua is a smart mix between euskera of Gipuzkoa and literature based euskara of Sara (Lapurdi). Unification was a very good strategy to preserve euskara from extinction. Though, i consider that the remplacement of traditional dialects by a new invented is an issue in regions where such a variety of euskara was never spoken and is still not co-officialy recognized. Euskera anitza da niretzat. Eskuara ainitz da neretzat/tako. Üska hanitx da enetako. Uskara aunitza da niretzat.


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/BryanAJParry

Which dialects are those, exactly?


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Eduardo_Dinis

The sentence i made was "Basque is plural to me" 1. Batua 2. Navarro-Lapurdian 3. Souletin 4. Pirenaic navarrese. Those are still spoken but endangered.


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/BryanAJParry

Tio_Makina: thanks for the clarification!


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Azais

You're right, and we could say this about any language really (breton english german french...). However, french basque helped creating the euskara batua. I thought before that the batua was a something artificially created on the spanish side, but it isn't. Batua was heavily influenced by french dialects as well, especially labourdin I think. I think that a unified language is necessary for the survival of basque (or any language really). Doesn't mean people can't learn the regional dialect alongside it. For example, if you take german : most people can speak Hochdeutsch (=Standard German) and its regional dialect (Swiss German, Baeirisch...). An unified language doesn't mean dialects will die.


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/crush

China has a similar situation where everyone studies Putonghua ("the common language") at school but speaks their dialects (sometimes mutually unintelligible with standard Mandarin) at home and among friends. Though i guess in many areas of the Basque Country, the language spoken at home isn't Basque. Thanks for the link to your blog, Tio_Makina, it looks like it'll be an interesting read :)


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/MirenAlustiza

As a native, and a lover of learning languages, I'd love to contribute doing it.


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/JoanesPlaz

Kaixo Miren, hau gerta dadin mesedez bete ezazu egin beharreko eskaera, zenbat eta jende gehiago askoz hobeto! Eskaera bete ahal izateko segi ezazu kurtso berri bat ikasten hasteko pantallara, ondoren, beheraino joan eta contribute to a course botoia sakatu, berriz ere izen berdineko botoia sakatu. Bertan agertuko zaizun hizkuntzen zerrendan "enter other" sakatu. "Basque" idatzi eta bete eskaera :D


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/MirenAlustiza

Kaixo Joanes, mila esker zure laguntzagatik! Eskaera bidali dut dagoeneko :) Eutsi goiari !


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/JB_Colino

I'm learning Basque too, and I recommend it. When you know a bit of Basque a lot of languages seem to be easier ;) Let's do it!


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/crush

Very cool! Nik ere euskara ikasten dut eta oso interesgarria da neretzat!


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/machinekey

the basque is a awesome language, i hope it comes to duolingo!


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/crush

Thanks, so do i! Please spread the word as we still need a couple more volunteers before we can really start bugging Duolingo to add it to the incubator.


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/CParry90

This definitely needs to happen!

I think it's very important to champion not just the official languages of countries (Spanish and French in the case of the Basque country), but the regional ones too. Not only is it great for preserving these languages and giving them greater exposure to the international community, but gives learners of the official languages (French and Spanish in this case) a greater cultural insight to the coexistence of different indigenous cultures in those countries. That being said, it would be equally brilliant to see Welsh, Catalan, Galician and many more being set up.

Best of luck!


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/crush

A Catalan course has been unofficially confirmed, i think it's just a matter of time before it gets announced officially. Now we're trying to get the same push for Basque, though we haven't been able to find other volunteers for Basque yet (i just know of anebz, others have sent in applications but i'm not sure if they're still around Duolingo).

Welsh and Galego courses would be great, too, though i don't think anyone's sent in applications. Maybe one or two for Welsh based on what i've seen in the discussions, but i haven't seen much on Galego. However, for Welsh there's a wonderful course called Say Something in Welsh, it's an all audio course for both the northern and southern dialects. If you're interested in Welsh, definitely check it out. It's a great course and a lot of fun!


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/CParry90

Sounds good! I'm actually Welsh so it'd be nice to see a Welsh language Duolingo course. Thanks for the tips!


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/crush

Cool! Dwi'n dysgu Cymraeg! Well, it's been a while, but i still remember a little ;)


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/crush

I just posted the full "Duo goes to the Basque Country" here:
https://www.duolingo.com/comment/7736533


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/psionpete

You say it is "almost always" asked for. I have seen it mentioned a few times (285 show up on a search of the forums) so its hardly always asked for. Even Catalan is mentioned 3 times more often that Basque with 915 occurrences.

Some other languages frequently asked for are:

Japenese. 4864:
Chinese. 4535:
Latin. 4408:
Arabic. 3393:

In order to get Basque accepted for Duo it will require a group of volunteers who are bilingual and willing to work on a course.


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/anebz

alright, maybe it's not the most popular petition, but there are definitely people out there that would like to learn it.

Most basque users here are willing to contribute and are all bilingual


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/crush

That's what the intention of this thread is, to provide a bit more direction.

Regarding search results, that just counts the number of times it was mentioned, not the number of threads it was mentioned in. And for me, i see 356 results for Basque, 51 for Euskera, and 26 for Euskara. Some of the threads are in Spanish. But even if the number is lower, it's still frequently mentioned in the "Suggest a new language"-style topics and those posts tend to have a lot of upvotes. Admittedly not as many as, say, Latin or Swahili (two other languages i see really frequently), but still enough to show a significant interest in the language, especially considering there are under a million native speakers.

There are several people who have sent in applications for Basque, though i'm not sure if they were for Basque-English courses or Basque-Spanish courses. I feel like a Basque-Spanish course would be a better start (similar to the Catalan course). I think the situation with Catalan is pretty similar (i applied for a Catalan-English course myself a while back) and seeing the success it's had makes me optimistic about the possibility of a Basque course as well. I've been studying Basque on my own for a while now and would love to help with the creation (or conversion) of a Basque for English speakers course one day.

There is an abundance of natively bilingual speakers of Basque and also several volunteers willing to make the course, i'd like to pull those who have already volunteered together, bring in new people, provide general encouragement, and help in whatever way i can to make the course a possibility.

Anyway, thanks for commenting :)

EDIT: Another reason in favor of a Duolingo Basque course is that it's a language commonly overlooked by larger language companies. For Japanese, Chinese (Mandarin? Shanghainese? Cantonese?), Latin, and Arabic, you've got hundreds if not thousands of courses of all shapes and sizes available for students of all kinds of levels. For Basque, you are much much more limited. A lot of the courses for learning Basque were personal projects written by Basque speakers who wanted to share their language, eg. Gorka's course.


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/anebz

I sent mine for Basque-Spanish. I think Spanish is the language that's most close to Basque, but it wouldn't be very difficult to do Basque-French and Basque-English once we've done Basque-Spanish


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/crush

Yeah, i think it'd be best to work on a course with a Spanish base first. That could be used as a basis for future courses. Thanks for sending in an application, by the way! I'll search around and see if i can find any one else willing to collaborate. A group of 5-10 people willing to collaborate on the course should work well to get things started!


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/anebz

I only know Tio_Makina and AitorUgart1


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/crush

Then first let's see if they're still interested :) I'll look around some language learning forums to see if any Basque speakers are interested.


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Golden_Owl

I am still interested but I have to admit that I am a staunch defender of my native dialect(Biscayan/Western dialect).Although for the sake of Euskera I am willing to do it.


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Eduardo_Dinis

I'm still interested. Euskara batua is a bridge to other dialects. No one would learn by itself a specific dialect before batua. By the way, isn't Euskara Europe's oldest language still alive ? Like i did, i wish anyone could learn it easily from anywhere. I'm not native speaker but i could help with the main basics. Joannes Etxeparek erran du bezala "Heuscara ialgui adi mundura"


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/JoanesPlaz

I'm also interested, I'm basque and I'm quite new in here, but I know Duo is a really good place to learn languages, and it's really encouraging, makes learning a language a joyful process.. I think i'd be able to help with the Basque-Spanish, but also with the Basque-English... I also speak Biscayan, but I have no problem to speak in Batua, hope sorts out something really beautiful from here ;D


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/crush

Send an application in to the Incubator, the more volunteers we have the better :)


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/JoanesPlaz

Yep, atzo bidali nuen (i sent it yesterday), i received an email, but just an autogenerated one :( , and another thing, do you know any resources in the web for an english person to learn euskara? I have a friend and she's trying, but i think with Duo would be waaayy easier... P.D. nongoa zara?


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/crush

The most comprehensive course i know of is the Ikasten.net course. A great textbook is "The Basque Language: A Practical Introduction" by Alan R. King. There's also a site "http://mintzalagun.com/", but i haven't really checked it out. It's not free and i'm not sure if there's an English version or just a Spanish version. Gorka's course also has an English translation:
http://www.aprendereuskera.com/orriak/6-2/35-2/

Eta estatubatuarra naiz :)


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/TxopiTxopi

Hi everyone! I have send an application for Basque-Spanish too. How many are we already?


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/crush

Milesker! Badakit gutxienez 6 pertsona eskaera egin dutela, baina beharbada badaude esan ez diguten beste batzuk ere.

I'm not sure how many of them are still active at Duolingo, though, as this has been over the course of over a year. Anebz is still active, at least :)


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Azais

Well, Basque is spoken in France too, so I would rather have a English/Basque course than a Spanish/Basque one.


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/crush

Unfortunately, there is much less support for Basque (and all other non-French languages: Breton, Occitan, Corsican, etc.) in France, so there are far fewer bilingual French/Basque speakers (the same obviously also holds true for bilingual English/Basque speakers). But i think the biggest thing right now is to get a Basque course out in any base language, whether that's English, Spanish, or French. From there it will be much easier to make courses for the other languages. And if the course does come out first in Spanish (which i feel is most likely, similar to the Catalan course), then you'll have another excuse to get your Spanish up to par :)

But yeah, i'd love to see Basque-English and Basque-French courses some day, too, but for now i'll settle for anything just to get things rolling!


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Azais

It's not true anymore that France doesn't support minority languages. There are a lot of bilingual schools (and ikastolas as well) in France, and the road signs are in french and basque, sometimes even french/basque/occitan for the city of Bayonne. When you go to church, basque songs are often sung. It's true, however that they are fewer basque speakers (about 65 000 in France, and 700 000 in Spain) But 65 000 that's 21% of the french basque population, so that's not nothing (it's 27% on the spanish side).

When I compare big cities like Saint Jean de Luz (Donibane Lohizune) and San Sebastian (Donostia) for example, I don't hear more basque on the streets of either one city.

But yeah, any course with Basque would be great. Don't just dismiss french euskaldunak yet :)


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/crush

I don't think i or anyone else here identifies the Basque Country as only Spanish, even if the population that speaks Basque on the French side is much smaller, 50,000+ people is still a lot of people! I'm also obviously not from there, so i've only got the information i've read (which may not be up-to-date). In any case, there are a large number of people on both sides interested in preserving the language, i don't think it's in danger of disappearing on either side of the French-Spanish border anytime soon. But i'd love to see it continue to grow (and a course here at Duolingo would be a wonderful way to start)!


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/crush

But do they have official status? I know there are ikastolak and bilingual schools and that there are still a number of people speaking Basque (including young people), but everything i've read as well as a quick search on Wikipedia seems to point that the only official language of France is still French:

La constitution française ne reconnait que le français comme seule langue officielle sur son territoire. Le 7 mai 1999, la France a signé la Charte européenne des langues régionales ou minoritaires, mais ne l'a jamais ratifiée, ce qui laisse cette Charte sans effets.

Or perhaps you're referring to this?

En mai 2008, à l'occasion d'une séance sur la modernisation des institutions, l'Assemblée nationale a voté un amendement à la Constitution qui ajouterait à celle-ci un article 75-1 dans les termes suivants : « Les langues régionales appartiennent au patrimoine de la France. ».

Anyway, it's great to hear that Basque still plays a big part in daily life in the Iparralde!


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Azais

No, they don't have official status, but english doesn't have official status in England either. What I mean is yes France could do more for regional languages but isn't doing nothing : there are a lot of motivated bascophones in France. In one region, (Soule/Xiberoa), more than 50% of the population is bilingual. They are speaking a basque dialect here and that makes understanding euskara batua very hard (and vice versa). That's a bigger percentage than some spanish regions which have basque as official language.
The problem with identifying the Basque Country only with Spain is that I and many french basques can't really feel a part of it. That's a very good way to make euskara seem foreign to people there. And France wasn't worse than Spain in the past on basque people, particularly under Franco. I come from different french regions, I do feel breton and basque and french, and seeing France as the big bad wolf is oversimplifying things. The future of the language in France is uncertain and worrying, but it doesn't mean it's all Paris' fault. Anyways I would be happy if any basque course arrives on duolingo, no matter the language. But please don't forget the basque diversity, even if our population is much less important :)


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Delta1212

The moment I find out there is a Spanish-Basque course in the incubator is the moment I set about finishing my Spanish tree (although, truthfully, I might get around to itbefote that anyway).

Still, that's something I would dearly love to try.


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/crush

Haha, i think a lot of people feel the same way as you do!


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/GrandApple

Where did you get that data from?


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/xavi_fr

Sir, you simply can't compare Chinese to Basque....


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/psionpete

I wasn't comparing Basque with Chinese or any other language, that would be stupid. What I was pointing out that the OP was overstating that Basque was "Almost always mentioned in language suggestion topics..." which I believe is evident by the number of posts regarding those different languages.

Now my methods maybe not the most accurate but they do suggest that Basque is a minority language, and while there is nothing wrong with that, it is unlikely that the calls for Duo to implement it would be as numerous as the other major languages.


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/anebz

Yes, but Duo doesn't add languages only depending on the number of people asking for it. Look at Yiddish for example.

I think it would be very beneficial to Duo to add Basque, not just for people to learn it but also to send a message that they care about endangered languages.


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/xavi_fr

Srry maybe it sounded a bit agressive, my apologizes


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/xavi_fr

Chinese population 1,363,950,000 Basque speakers 1,102,391 (more or less)


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/BryanAJParry

100% agreed, Duolingo ought to have all six official UN languages (Mandarin, English, Spanish, Russian, Arabic, French) from English and probably from each other. This would seem a basic requirement to me.

It should also have major regional world languages, like Indonesian and Swahili.

And it should have any language which it can easily get a course created for (e.g. Swedish, which has now been done).

And, yes, majorly important cultural or dying languages but which have significant speakers and room for significant growth in the future (Welsh, Basque, Catalan, etc., but sadly probably no to Manx, Ainu, et al).

So many languages that are worthy, but who's going to make the courses?

In other words, it's not a mere numbers game of making courses for the most spoken languages. The bottom line is: who is available to actually make these courses? If it turns out that it's incredibly easy to make a course for, say, Maltese (a language I am actually interested in) because (1) it's Roman script, (2) there are loads of English-Maltese-Italian bi/trilinguals who are wiling to make the course, and therefore the course gets done quickly, then guess what, Maltese will be happening soon! But if the language is too hard to get done, because there aren't appropriate volunteers or the structure of the language is not suitable for DL, then it may not happen. Just look at Mandarin!


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/iainsona

I think that the main trouble with Mandarin will be the script.

Do we write in Mainland pinyin or Taiwanese bopomofo? The tone markers for all four tones (not counting neutral tone) ... do we find a way to put them separately instead of having vowels with accents?

... or do we create a completely new subroutine in Duo somewhere such that, like in Chinese word processors, you can get a dropdown list of characters that match up with the pinyin or bopomofo that you just typed? (which is often including more than one character because words in Chinese are rarely just one character)

Likewise with Japanese? To get the kanji, hiragana and katakana, will we type in romaji and have a dropdown list to choose from?

Also, there are most definitely NOT 1.3 billion speakers of Mandarin. Not even close. Maybe 800 million or 900 million, including second language speakers. There are tons and tons and TONS of people in remote places in China that never ever learn Putonghua or Guoyu ... or ANY dialect of Mandarin, let alone standardized Mandarin. That EVERYONE in China speaks not only MANDARIN but STANDARD Mandarin is Chinese propaganda.


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/crush

Personally i think you really need to use the characters. I can't even imagine using pinyin for anything beyond a very basic level, but requiring the users to setup an IME might be asking a bit much. Also, if Duolingo's end goal is to prepare people to start translating documents from Mandarin to English (and other languages), only teaching pinyin isn't going to help at all. Mandarin definitely poses a lot of challenges if they decide to implement it.


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/BryanAJParry

iainsona, I agree with you. But I always refer people to the example set by ChineseSkill. I think Duolingo could learn from ChineseSkill but still do it better.


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/JohnReid8

@ iainsona. How will the script be a problem?

We already have an English for Japanese course, the Japanese speakers already have to switch between Book and 本, no major overhaul of the system required. It's done, the duolingo system can already support kanji/hanzi, (and Arabic for that matter).

Already supported; Latin, Cryilic, Hindic, Arabic, Kanji, Greek, (oh, and does Yiddish use the Hebrew script?)

My point is, supporting radically different scripts presents no technical barrier to Duolingo, How could it when unicode supports over 1 million characters?

Edit: I'll admit, it might be a good idea for Duolingo to install the relevant IME for a given script/language if it hasn't already been done. But again, no problem.


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/crush

Yeah, it's a bit of an unfair comparison for any language, really. Another advantage for Basque is that it doesn't require any letters not present in the English alphabet, not even accent marks. The only exception is the ñ used almost exclusively in names (the only actual Basque word i can think of with an ñ is andereño). You certainly can't say the same about Mandarin, Japanese, or Arabic, which would require you to set up an IME or develop some other system for typing in those languages ;)

As for the languages themselves, i've been surprised to find quite a few similarities between Mandarin and Basque. Relative clauses in Basque, for example, are rather similar to how they are expressed in Mandarin. In English, you'd say "The man that went to the store is my friend." In Mandarin/Basque, you literally say "The went-to-the-store [marker] man is my friend." "Dendara joan den gizona nere laguna da." (去商店人是我的朋友).


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/iainsona

I like the Japanese-Basque little similarities.

da =3rd person singular verb "to be" in Basque =informal verb "to be" in Japanese.

Bai = "Yes" in Basque.

Hai = "Yes" in Japanese ... and in Japanese syllabics, you write "Ha" and "Ba" identically except for a diacritic of two little lines to the upper right called, in Japanese, dakuten.

I know that this is probably completely random but that doesn't make me notice it less. :-)


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/JackedTortoise

Haha I thought the second part was the same text as the English one but in Basque. I was looking over it and thinking: ''Damn, I can read it! It looks so much like Spanish, no wonder they're bilingual...'', and then it hit me....

Anyway, i had never heard of Basque before, but it would be cool if it got implemented


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/melesana

I'd love to see a Basque course here, and I'd take it. I'm just starting to learn Basque on my own, from a hodgepodge of sources.


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/crush

Great! Another Basque learner! The best two courses i've seen so far are the free Ikasten course and the book "The Basque Language: A Practical Introduction" by Alan King. If you can read Spanish or French, the Assimil course is not bad, though i definitely found it more difficult than other Assimil courses i've done. Gorka's course, which can be found here, is also nice and fairly comprehensive, though i found it moved a bit too fast (though i guess i was the one who moved too fast). Looking at the site again it appears that Gorka's recently revised the course.

Anyway, good luck and thanks for stopping by! Hopefully we can get a Basque course here up and running sooner or later!


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/FresnoVegas

Please let's make this happen!


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/jenna_swiss

Euskara, please! <3 <3 <3


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Golden_Owl

I don't know why Duolingo does not set up something so that we can see how many appliers a certain language has got so far.


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/crush

Yeah, that'd be nice. Or at least a notification saying whether we were considered "qualified" to write the course.

Also, if we could find people who shared a common dialect, i would love to see a course based on that dialect. I think the preservation of dialects is important and one of the things that makes Basque even richer. It seems most people who study Euskara seriously end up at least getting familiar with other dialects anyway.


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Thriel

Apoyo el curso de euskera (:


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Noem886425

Me encantaría


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Readyforyou

Ando haciendo un curso en telegram por si te interesa,lo acabo de crear hace poco pero bueno poco a poco va cogiendo forma, esta en esta direccion t.me/euskerasbizi


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/xavi_fr

Mucha suerte en la aventura que acaba de empezar! Se me ocurren un par de ideas: poner una foto con traducciones de expresiones, lo mas visibles posibles, tipo hola, gracias, hasta luego, etc, en ingles-euskera para que la gente que no lo conoce le entre el gusanillo. Poner un mapa de Europa marcando donde esta el país vasco, hablantes, bandera, tradiciones y un poco de historia evitando el politiqueo :D. Más fotos: famosos vascos conocidos en Europa...


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/anebz

muchas gracias! felicidades, por cierto, los posts de catalán están teniendo mucho éxito! Quizá todo lo que dices lo podríamos hacer en un 'Duo goes to the Basque Country'?


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/crush

Me parece una buenísima idea! Podemos tener algunas palabras como kaixo, askerrik asko, zer moduz, etc. e incluso poner algunas imágenes de Duo llevando una boina/txapela diciendo algunas frase divertidas o presentando varios lugares del País Vasco, como las cuevas de Zugarramurdi, en euskara :P


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/xavi_fr

https://www.duolingo.com/comment/5949692 Escribele al usuario de este post y te agregará en la lista de futuros Duo goes to....


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/xavi_fr

Haced un post diciendo: a ver quien adivina en que lengua estan escritas estas frases (con traduccion al ingles), teneis el derecho a spamear un poco :D Por cierto, lo que dice wikipedia de que se habla solo en el norte del pais vasco se cierto? http://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Euskera Si es asi si que es muy necesario para vosotros el curso Euskara-Español :D


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/anebz

Sí,desgraciadamente es cierto. En álava mucha gente no lo habla, pero también es verdad que mucha gente de fuera de euskadi sí, como en el norte de navarra y en francia


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Isrianth

Me gustaría bastante leer sobre "Duo goes to the Basque Country".

Ignoro muchas cosas y entre esas esta ese idioma. :(

Espero tengan suerte con su petición.

Saludos.


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/crush

Gracias por las ideas, son muy buenas! Dónde crees que deberíamos poner las fotos? Como comentarios aquí? O como parte del post de arriba?

EDIT: Y ni decir tiene que vuestro éxito con el curso de catalán ha sido la inspiración de esta discusión :)


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/xavi_fr

Nose pero si haceis lo de Duo va al pais vasco, hacerlo muy bonito!! Entre varios mejor que uno solo :D Que una vez se hace ya no se repite!


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/crush

Muy bien, entonces iré preparando algunas imágenes de Duo para superponerlas sobre fotos del País Basco. Yo pensaba que un pequeño texto muy simple en euskara, por ejemplo hau ??? da (esto es ???), en cada imágen sería bonito, también.


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/xavi_fr

Me gusta el formato comic, es diferente al resto, muy bonito!!! Enviale un mensaje al chico que te dije que organiza esa lista :D


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/crush

Gràcies! Pues soy de EE.UU, pero viví un par de años en España donde me enamoré del euskara (i també del català! però el català em va resultar una mica més fàcil que el vasc, encara que em queda molt per aprendre :P). Cuando me fui de España vine a China, donde actualmente vivo.

Hoy collecioné información sobre algunos otros lugares del País Vasco, creo que mañana o pasado mañana el post estará listo.


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/crush

Gracias :) Ya le envié un mensaje el otro día, pero voy a esperar hasta que tenga algunos más para postearlos.


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/xavi_fr

De donde eres? Lo estas haciendo perfecto, serás el futuro lider , almenos para conseguir meter al euskera en la incubadora :D


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/crush

He empezado con algunas imágenes. Esto es lo que tengo hasta el momento (si tenéis más ideas, fotos, lugares que visitar, etc. dímelo y los añadiré):
After spending all day at the top-secret Duolingo labs in Pittsburgh putting the finishing touches on the Turkish course, Duo decided it was time for a holiday. But... where to go? duo duo duo The word gaztelugatxe comes from the Basque words gaztelu (castle) and aitz (rock, crag), literally "Crag of the castle". Gaztelugatxe is connected to the mainland by a man-made bridge. There is a hermitage at the top of the island. Legend says that after climbing the 200+ steps you should ring the bell three times and make a wish. Duo, what do you wish for? duo duo


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Eduardo_Dinis

Since I started learning euskara 5 years ago, i always hoped to tranmit it one day. Family transmition is decreasing in most cases, particularly in the french side (called Iparralde). The current way to reboost its vitality, in increasing monolingual areas is through learning programms given by the A.E.K. If nothing is done, eskuara could desappear from most urban areas of Iparralde this century. Facts show a clear diminution from 2006 to 2011: http://www.eke.eus/en/kultura/euskara-the-basque-language/basque-sociolinguistics/2006ko_inkesta?set_language=en (english) http://www.mintzaira.fr/fr/la-langue-basque/situation-socio-linguistique.html (2011 facts in french). Also, the fact that most speakers are older than 50 years old in Iparralde suggest a loses in the next decades, even though younger are making their best to valorize its daily use. This is also true in Navarre except in areas near Gipuzkoa. I believe Duolingo was created also for minority languages. "Hizkuntza bat ez da galtzen ez dakitenek ikasten ez dutelako dakitenek erabiltzen ez dutelako baizik" [Joxean Artze]. Oso irudi politak egin dituzu. Bakarrik erran nahi nuke: Euskara bizirik!


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Azais

Eskerrik asko for these pictures :)


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Vedun

Let's let's let's let's let's!


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/IvSantxo

I installed Duolingo with the hope to find Euskara. I really want to learn. I'm learning Japanese and German now.


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/DarioSanch238069

Si, Duolingo necesita tener curso de Eskera!


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Jesus849123

Nos hacen falta votos positivos, comentarios y lingotes gracias ;)

Bueno en el primer comentario que ha realizado el compañero Crush, el comentario finaliza con "Vamos, ¡empecemos ya!": Debajo de este comentario hay un numerito "264" con un triangulito hacia arriba "^" debes de darle ahí y verás que se convierte en 265 por ejemplo. Así puedes hacer con todos y cada uno de los comentarios que te gusten. Esto es un voto positivo a más votos positivos mejor para aceptar el curso.

Para comentar, decir o que queráis, o "apoyo el curso de euskera", con eso vale.

Si deseáis, regalar un lingote, podéis hacerlo justo debajo de cada comentario donde dice " REGALAR UN LINGOT "

Por favor, se agradece mucho la colaboración :)

Eskerrik asko :)


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Bea707

I lost count on how many times I put my vote on having basque (euskera) here on Duolingo. One more time: please, consider adding basque language for us to learn it. Thank you!


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/siuxie27

Adoro Euskadi, su historia, su gente y su idioma. Esta plataforma es muy interesante para aprender idiomas, y somos muchos los interesados. Aurrera!!!


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Mariam489735

Sería fantastico poder aprender Euskera por aqui


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Noem886425

Por favor!!! Por favor!!


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Jesus849123

Nos hacen falta votos positivos UPvote "^" y comentarios gracias ;) Noem886425


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Noem886425

Si ya voté, gracias


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Jesus849123

jajaja pues que vote hasta tu gata, gracias, cuantos más mejor ;)


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Andolin1

Votemos, y demos like, que se mueva este asunto de una vez


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Jesus849123

Kaixo,:) arrakasta handia izan genuen gure aurreko argitalpenarekin, Duolingo foroaren argitalpenean 'Up Vote' ^ baiezko botoak sustatuz. 400 boto lor baditzakegu, orduan euskarak aukera ona du inkubagailuaren programan onartua izateko. Mesedez, lagundu, eskerrik asko)


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/JamelSheperson

Nun atxeman daiteke argitalpen hori?


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/AleLemosNog

I'm definitely onboard with this idea of a Duolingo's Euskera course! I felt in love with the language when I travelled to Spain in 2008 and since them I've being trying to learn it online, but it's quite hard to find good materials. The best material I've found was a 4 books course called Bakarka, in the library of the Cervantes Institute in my home town. It's a good method, but it's already outdated. Please, feel free to reach me if you all need any help to make this idea come true!


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Evanm1456

Look at the success that Duolingo has with Irish, Scots- Gaelic, & Welsh in supporting use of those languages. The same effect should work in Euskera

Mira al exito que Duolingo tiene con Irlandes, Gaelic Escocia, y Gales con apoyando el uso de esos idiomas. Ojala pasare el mismo exito con la idioma Euskara.


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/crush

Someone mentioned starting a Twitter campaign to see if we can find more people, spread the word, and let Duolingo know that there are a lot of people interested in Basque. I've never used Twitter before (not to mention it's blocked in China, where i live) so i'm a bit new to all this. What do you all think?


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/holymoley68

Yes please! I want to learn the culture and language of my ancestors, and it is on my bucket list to spend time in the Communidad Autonoma Vasca. This would be incredible!


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/crush

If you know anyone who speaks Euskara and might be interested, please ask them to fill out an application in the incubator! :)


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Vaggeliss

It will be great to learn the basque language! 101% support for Euskara! http://www.aekide.net/image/titre2.gif


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/crush

Thanks, hopefully it'll make it's way over here one of these days :)


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/PauBofill

I've been wanting to learn Euskera for, like, eternity, but I just haven't found out how to do it yet. If there were a course in Duolingo I'd sure do it!! My cousins live in Guipuzkoa so that's a plus. I've been telling them every time I see them that they HAVE TO teach me Basque and up until a few months ago they kept telling me it was to hard for me :( although now they'd be happy to teach me (but it would be hard since I don't see them too often). Anyway, if it takes to much to include the course at Duolingo I'll probably have already learnt Basque XD Good luck and know that you have my hole support!!!!! Eskerrik asko!!


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/crush

Thanks, you might wanna check out the Assimil course (iniciación al euskera), Gorka's course (curso gratuito de euskera), and the Ikasten.net site. The last two are completely free, the Assimil course is nice, really hard, but too short in my opinion.


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/PauBofill

Eskerrik asko, I'll check them out while waiting for the DL course :)


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/salapls

I began with Gorka's course. Patiently and consulting other sources I've gone forward.

Gorkaren ikastaroaz hasi nintzen. Lasaiki eta beste iturriak irakurriz aurrera joan naiz.


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/PauBofill

I està bé aquest curs?


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/salapls

Penso que sí. Està en format PDF, parteix de zero i està orientat a gent que sap parlar castellà. Si el completes pots aprendre a dir oracions simples i les oracions subordinades més bàsiques. Tenint en compte la gramàtica basca no està pas malament.

http://www.aprendereuskera.com/Curso_de_Euskera_2009.pdf

A més, els diccionaris online de la fundació elhuyar estan molt bé. Tradueixen del basc a castellà, francès o anglès i viceversa.

http://hiztegiak.elhuyar.eus/

Al portal educatiu "hiru" també s'hi poden consultar coses.

http://www.hiru.eus/lengua-vasca/teorias-sobre-el-origen-del-euskara

La informació més complerta que he trobat a internet és la "Sareko Euskal Gramatika" (Gramàtica basca online) de la Universitat del País Basc, però està integrament en basc i fins que no es té un nivell més avançat és impossible treure'n res. Hi ha, entre altres coses, un conjugador de verbs (adizkitegi automatikoa).

http://www.ehu.eus/seg/


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/PauBofill

Gràcies! Li faré una ullada a veure què tal.


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/JoanesPlaz

Kaixo denoi, azkenaldian nahiko jende ari zait idazten proiektu honi buruz galdezka eta bagoaz gutxinaka gutxinaka jendea lo(r)tzen. Hasiera baten baina nahiko zail gerta dakioke norbaiti euskararen eskaera egitea, beraz, nik eta beste lagun batek testutxo bat idatzi dugu, gutxi gorabehera gida gisa erabili ahal izateko hasierako pausu horietan. Gida azpian atxikitako estekan irakur daiteke, eta beraz inguruko norbait interesatuta egon ezkero, zabaldu lasai!

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1M4NzcOihXM0N8Xzq_uTkpHDZGKLMCtzgUCnfjBeSikE/edit?usp=sharing


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/crush

Mila esker! Zuen testu gai nagusiari gehitu diot :)


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Olbapz

Hey, ask some tough questions of Luis Von Ahn regarding Basque and Duolingo right here on quora. He's answering questions. https://www.quora.com/profile/Luis-Von-Ahn/session/2016-01-12/ Maybe that my drive some things, not to be too demanding. But hey, it's worth a try. Thanks JoanesPlaz for galvanizing things.


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/crush

What sort of questions did you have in mind? I can't think of anything other than "Does Duolingo have plans to add Basque?"


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Olbapz

EXACTLY! I'm sure a couple dozen questions of that nature might clarify for us DL's position on the matter. But...I think we might be close actually. I just get this feeling.


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/JoanesPlaz

It's a pleasure :D Bit by bit more people is joining and we will soon achieve our aim!


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/EFHeras

I don't speak this language, but I really want to learn it and have it be available for others, so if there is anything I can do to help make it happen, please let me know.


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/crush

You can share these posts online, try to get other people interested, tweet Duolingo asking for a Basque course, etc. We just want Duolingo to see that there are a lot of people looking forward to there being a Basque course on Duolingo!


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/SamuelWolter

I think Basque would be a really good language to have on Duo.


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/crush

Nik ere bai / As do i :)


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/AnCatDubh

A popular story in the Basque Lands says that the Devil once wanted to tempt the Basques, so he tried going to the Basque Lands and learning the language. After two months all he could learn was the words for ‘yes’ and ‘no’, so he gave up and left.

That kind of challenge makes me pretty eager.


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/crush

It's not that hard, it's just different. Its grammar is pretty regular and most verbs don't conjugate, they rely on an auxiliary verb to tell you what tense and so on it is. The auxiliary verbs just have a ton of forms and the patterns aren't immediately obvious, but like with all languages with practice they eventually start to fall in place.

I doubt it'd take two months to learn how to say yes or no, but it will take you some time to get used to Basque structure. Just like how it took me forever to get used to where to put verbs in German when i studied it at school, all the irregular verbs and the subjunctive in Spanish, relative clauses and particles in Mandarin (relative clauses in Mandarin are actually pretty similar to how Basque does them), etc. etc. It just takes some getting used to, but eventually you'll find yourself wanting/trying to use Basque structures to try to say English things (for example i sometimes find myself wanting to add an ergative ending to an English word) :P


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/JohnReid8

The version that I heard was that Old Clutie was at it for seven years before accepting that he'd never learn more than those two words.

Still makes me want to learn the language though.


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Professor01

Just returned from Basque Country. I think this is an excellent idea. Basque may well be the first, or one of the first, human languages; it certainly predates Greek and Latin. The culture is rich. The cuisine is unsurpassed. And the region has a well-deserved reputation as a highly desired travel destination.


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/crush

Yes, the Basque Country is indeed beautiful and has a really amazing history, unfortunately a lot of the Basque culture and mythology, having mostly an oral tradition, didn't survive the arrival of Christianity.


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Linguist001

I know a lot of languages, but I would rather study Euskara than any other language.


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/crush

You can, there are plenty of sources to start learning. If you speak Spanish or French, there are even more. There are a few good free resources online, as well (Ikasten.net, Mintzanet, Gorka's course), and you can ask any questions you've got over at the Unilang Basque sub-forum. I'd be happy to help you out on your way if you were interested.


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Snarffalita

I'm third generation Basque-American, and I would love to have a chance to learn Euskara. Nobody in my family speaks it anymore. My daughter and I are headed to Bilbao and San Sebastian this fall, so we've been looking up phrases, but we are both Duolingo fans and would love to really jump into the language.


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/thinkula

I am a fourth generation Basque-American and would also too love to learn Euskara/Basque. There is one lineage within my family that still speaks it today, but since my grandfather didn't teach his children the language, it never made it to me. There aren't too many resources on line from what I can find. It's one of the most fascinating languages in the world and possibly the oldest! Please add to Duolingo!! :)


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/crush

I'm also hoping they'll add it to Duolingo one of these days, until then there are a few nice resources available to English speakers (i mentioned a couple of them in the post below), and likewise, if you have any questions or want any suggestions for learning Basque, please feel free to get in touch!


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/crush

I've been working on some resources to learn Basque the past year or so but they're not quite ready yet. But there are some really great books available to English speakers, the best i can think of is "The Basque Language: A Practical Introduction" by Alan R. King. Alan's also put an old draft online for free of a Basque course they wrote but was never published, and that course is also very good (but it's just a scan of the manuscript). Here's a link to the post:
http://www.alanrking.info/a-basque-course-second-draft/

There's also an online course at ikasten.net. You need to sign up for it but it's pretty comprehensive (covers A1-B2) and completely free. If you have any questions or trouble, also feel free to get in touch with me. I'm still learning myself but i've gone through the beginning stages and it can seem pretty overwhelming at first, but Basque is really a fun and unique language, i hope you do decide to pick it up and become an euskaldun berria!


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Enelabe

Egun on! I don't know if people around this post are still active or not, but anyway!

I am a Basque native speaker myself, and I love Duolingo; I've been using it a lot for a long time and I find it really helpful and enjoyable. As of today, I have sent a request for Basque to be added to Duolingo multiple times already (in the "Contribute to a course" section in the incubator), but haven't received any sort of answer whatsoever. It's a pity as I am really looking forward to taking part in the making of a Basque course and help as much as I can, as it would make me really happy to see people all around the world eager to learn my own language.

If there's anything I can do for the cause please let me know! I'll also be joining the Discord chat you mentioned down below. Eskerrik asko eta ondo izan!


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/crush

Ba bai, hemen jarraitzen dugu! Milesker eskaera bidaltzeagatik, momentuz ez dakigu noiz egingo duten -- edo hobeto esanda, noiz egin dezakegun guk -- ikastaroa, baina zenbat eta boluntario gehiago, hobe! Badago jende asko euskara ikasi nahi duena eta ;)


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/RickBradleyUSA

Hi Crush glad to see you are still active. I made a few corrections to the draft course, thanks to help from Unai Gomez, and tried to see if I could create a course in openwords.com, but that seems to be a dead project, as no answers to my emails. So back to hoping the Duolingo will eventually let Basque in.
regards
rgb


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Jesus849123

Eskerrik asko :)


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/AgustinCar9

Intenta contactar con ellos support@duolingo.com


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Jesus849123

Beti aurrera!! :)


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Andolin1

A ver si esta es la buena!!!


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/MariaEAram

Duolingo is a great place to learn any language and I belief Basque needs to be added to their language menu. There are many of us that are Basque descendants that would love to learn the language. I support this 100% !


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/gerarnan

a mí también me gustaría aprender Euskera en duolingo!


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Kenecxjo

I offer a resounding Yes! to Basque on Duolingo.


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Lide484989

Badago berririk honen inguruan?


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/AgustinCar9

Ez :(

Duolingo ez digu egin kasorik


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Mariam489735

It will be wonderfull


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Mariam489735

Para cuando será?


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Jesus849123

Pués esperemos que pronto, ayudanos con los votos positivos, por fa Mariam489735


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Jesus849123

Kaixo :)

Nos hacen falta votos positivos UPvote "^" y comentarios gracias ;) https://forum.duolingo.com/comment/7674974 Bueno en el primer comentario que ha realizado el compañero Crush, el comentario finaliza con "Vamos, ¡empecemos ya!": Debajo de este comentario hay un numerito "296" con un triangulito hacia arriba "^" debes de darle ahí y verás que se convierte en "297" por ejemplo.

Así puedes hacer con todos y cada uno de los comentarios que te gusten. Esto es un voto positivo "^" a más votos positivos mejor para aceptar el curso. Para comentar, decir lo que queráis, o "apoyo el curso de euskera", con eso vale. Sobre todo los votos positivos ^^ UPVOTE ^^^^^^ son fundamentales gracias a ellos se han conseguido cursos de Latín, Finlandés, Incluso Māori.

Por eso y aunque seamos muy pesados, por favor votos positivos, nos jugamos mucho. :) Por favor, se agradece mucho la colaboración :) Eskerrik asko


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Bea707

Ya voté y firmé la petición. Cuánta gente se necesita para que se considere el curso? No entiendo como pueden faltar votos si hace más de 4 años que se está pidiendo por el curso. suerte para todos! Ojala Duolingo lo agregue pronto!


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Noem886425

Comentaban que igual hace falta que se ofrezca alguna persona con titulación. Se podría proponer en alguna universidad?


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Jesus849123

En la incubadora hay profes universitarios del ramo de la filolología vasca, y más de uno y más de dos. El número total de colaboradores más de 30, salvo error u omisíon. Sobradamente preparados. Y si viene alguno más es bienvenido :)


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Sagutxoa

Duolingo es maravilloso y práctico. No conozco nada mejor. Pero le falta el euskera.


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Sagutxoa

Duolingo es maravilloso. Por su sistema y comodidad. Y encima es gratuito... Y con gente con mucha vocación detrás. Un gran proyecto social. Pero le falta el euskera.
Ojalá pronto... Gracias


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/pamplemousse1228

Yes, please! Bring Euskera to Duolingo!!!!


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/MarcCamp

Interested. I am a Spanish native speaker. I volunteer myself as an early adopter and commit to invest time and provide feedback to help in the development of the course.


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Jesus849123

Por favor, rellena está solicitud con las instrucciones de más arriba https://incubator.duolingo.com/apply


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/DDN750175

I would certainly start learning it.


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/AgustinCar9

Kaixo,

Llevamos mucho tiempo pidiendo el curso en Euskera para castellano hablantes a Duolingo y siguen si responder. Idiomas mas pequeños lo han conseguido por eso hemos recopilado los 4 pasos para hacerlo:

1- Si eres bilingue apúntate aquí: https://incubator.duolingo.com/apply

En "¿A cuál curso quieres contribuir?" elige "Ingresa otro" y escribes Euskera y en "para hablantes de" elige Español

2- Entra en el foro https://forum.duolingo.com/comment/7674974

Vota el primer comentario y dale a Regalar lingote si tienes.

3-CAMPAÑA EN TWITTER Y FACEBOOK comparte y haz RT https://www.facebook.com/aguscarazo/posts/10222633144676142

https://twitter.com/acarazo/status/1229668031170826241

A ver si se dan por aludidos.


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/GoiKira

No me puedo creer que esté disponible el valirio y no el euskera...

Yo me ofrecí hace unas semanas como nativa/traductora/lo que necesiten y no parece haber nada de movimiento :(


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/msaizar77

Estoy interesado en aprender euskera. Era el idioma de mis abuelos y me gustaría aprenderlo.


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Readyforyou

Pues bueno ya he escrito por aqui antes pero ando creando un curso en telegram de euskera por si te interesa.


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Basabe

Pues a mi en principio si me interesaría ¿te mando un mensaje por Telegram? Eskerrik asko


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Readyforyou

Buenas noches, el canal se llama euskerazbizi,es un canal que he creado hace unos dias,ire metiendo mas,aunque tambien se acepta sobre que temas quereis que ponga las palabras,porque al final a mi se me ocurren varias y quizas se me escapa alguna.


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Gorka536290

Euskara es un idioma que debería estar en Duolingo


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/UniversoVi2

I NEED basque!! xDDD


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Patric595094

Am just adding a comment to keep this thread going. YES, PLEASE, Duolingo...please ADD Basque language...whether Spanish to Basque (such as you've done with Spanish to Catalán) or English to Basque or both for English and Spanish speakers....no important...We need this on Duolingo. When I talk to some of my friends who have also traveled in Spain and France, and tell them how much I'm enjoying Duo, just about the first question they ask is, "Does Duolingo offer Basque?" We need to get this important regional language added.


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/kaynilsen

I'm English but live in the Basque Country. Please make a course for those 'foreigners' who don’t want to rely on the rest of the world speaking English, but want to integrate and speak Euskera with the local Basque community. 100% support!


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Patric595094

Am in California, but have spent quite a bit of time in Navarra and have beloved Basque friends. I'd love to be able to converse with them in Euskera instead of them having to switch to Spanish for my sake. This is an historic language which deserves to be kept alive.


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/tnel1

Good luck in your efforts! :)


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/crush

Thanks for the encouragement!


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/tnel1

Oh, of course! I applaud anyone's efforts to create more educational opportunities for others! :) It's really exciting to think of there being more and more options here someday! And I admire the way you dream of solutions instead of being held back! :)


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/InsaneCule

You seem very passionate, I'm sure you'll do awesome!


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/RaulComas

Quiero aprender Euskara! como aplico?


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Eduardo_Dinis

De momento lo mejor que te puedo aconsejar por internet es Ikasten.net http://www.hiru.com/e-ikasi/idiomas/ikasten (explicaciones en espanol) http://www.hiru.com/eu/e-ikasi/idiomas/ikasten/ikasten-for-english-users Ikastalde on zuri!


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/crush

También está el curso de Asimil (Iniciación al euskera) y el pdf de Gorka.


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/joralles

Yo acabo de empezar el curso de Assimil, y está muy bien! Pero estaría también genial el curso en Duolingo, como podemos hacer para que finalmente salga adelante? Gracias, un saludo


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/crush

Sí, el curso de Assimil es muy bueno, aunque me pareció mucho más difícil que los otros cursos de Assimil, hubiera estado bien que explicaran algunas cosas un poco mejor. Además, me hubiera gustado un curso completo y no sólo uno de 'iniciación', pero es lo que hay y me alegro de que tengamos otro recurso para aprender el euskera. Para que el curso de Duolingo salga adelante, necesitamos voluntarixs (activxs en el sitio) para crear el curso y además Duo tiene que ver que existe un verdadero interés por el euskera.


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/joralles

Kaixo Crush, yo me ofrezco de voluntario, pero acabo de empezar con el Euskera, no sé si en este estado, de novato con el Euskera, podría ser voluntario. Eskerrik Asko


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/crush

Creo que por ahora lo que más les interesa son personas bilingües, cuando el curso ya esté empezado se necesitarán otras personas para probar el curso, añadir explicaciones, frases alternativas, etc. A lo mejor entonces tú y yo tendremos más que aportar, por ahora sólo se puede esperar y animar (y claro buscar a más voluntarixs) :)


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/pvlfio

I'm keeping my fingers crossed for this to happen! I would really love to learn Basque using duolingo one day.


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/JohnReid8

Yeah, I'd love to learn Basque using Duolingo too. It might take a while, but good things come to those that wait.


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/MaiteHerself

Hey! I'm Basque and grew up speaking it but lost it as I moved away. I'm currently studying it right now and so I'd love to see a Basque course! Has there been any updates regarding the possibility of a course on Duolingo?


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/crush

Unfortunately, i haven't heard anything. There are a lot of folks interested in a Basque course, but i'm not sure that it's really a top priority. I'm sure the day will come, i just can't say when/how soon. Thanks for the support and good luck with your studies! How are you studying Basque, btw?


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/MaiteHerself

Yeah, hopefully the day will come. And thank you! I recently bought a colloquial book and I was using some courses on memrise. I also have an Arian workbook I look at a lot. Wish there were more resources out there


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/crush

The Colloquial book is ok, but a bit scant on information. I'd suggest Alan R. King's "The Basque Language: A Practical Introduction". It's much more thorough. Also, check out the [ikasten.net] site, it's a huge free online course which covers A1-B2. It's a bit dry, but with a lack of other resources it's a real treasure source of info.


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/JoanesPlaz

Norbaitek oraindik kurtsoa sortzeko gogo edo asmoa baldin badu, gaur sustatun argitaratu duten artikuluaren zabalkundea egitea ez litzateke gaizki etorriko. Artikulu honekin ikusten dugu euskal blogosferan egon daitekeela nolabaiteko interes bat Duolingon euskara egon dadin. Katalana Duolingon eskuragarri egotea bera puntu klabea izan da artikulu hau argitaratzeko orduan, eta ondo egongo litzateke proiektu honetan parte hartu nahi dugunon taldea finkatzen joatea, bidea errazteko.

Artikulua: http://sustatu.eus/1448879313 (inork nirekin harremanetan jarri nahi ezkero iruzkin bat utzi dut horretarako)


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/crush

Eskerrik asko, Joanes, kurtso honetan oraindik interesatua nago, noski :)


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/JoanesPlaz

After maaaany requests, I've been thinking about this topic, and I think that maybe Duo would listen to us, and so add Euskara (Basque) to the incubator if the requests done are for "Basque for English speakers", instead of "basque for Spanish speakers". If you compare the incubator for English speakers courses and the one for Spanish speakers, there is a big difference between them, we can find waay more languages on the English interface...

I know isn't the best move, 'cause not all the basque people know English (or at least their English skills aren't as good as their Spanish ones), but i think the most important thing is to see basque on the incubator, because after that, many people could come and join the team...

Just my opinion, but could be a good chance, what do you all think?


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/crush

I think our best bet is to push for a course for Spanish speakers the same way we did for Catalan, there are more bilingual Euskara/Spanish speakers than Euskara/English speakers, but whatever course comes out first the other(s) will come later, a course for French/Spanish/English speakers would all be great for me :)


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Saimdusan

Wouldn't an English-base course be a bigger contribution to the overall pool of Basque-learning resources, though? There's already quite a lot available in Spanish (most of it) and French (Assimil for example).

In the case of Catalan most people who are interested in it arrive there from some other Romance language, but Basque is so different that learning Romance languages won't help you that much in mastering it, besides recognising many loanwords and not having problems with differentiating "naiz" and "nago" (and that's only if you know Spanish, not French). For that reason I think it'd be good for people who are interested in Basque to not necessarily have to go through Spanish.

I'm a native English speaker with a sort of A2 level in Basque so I'd be happy to volunteer for a hypothetical English-base course, although my Basque may be too basic for me to be of much help. I imagine I could at least revise the English sentences.


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/crush

The issue is that the majority of Basque speakers are bilingual in Basque and French/Spanish, there aren't as many bilingual Basque/English speakers (at least not of Batua). Almost all of the volunteers to make the course so far have been Basque/Spanish bilingual speakers. Also, the Basque Country being situated between France/Spain, Spanish and French speakers (many of whom live in the Basque Country) will have an opportunity to use it and spread the language whereas most English speakers learn it more as a hobby than to use it in their daily life. Making erdaldunak learn the language through a 3rd language (English) doesn't seem to help Basque as much as a Spanish course would. There also aren't a whole lot of resources in French/Spanish, the Assimil course is an "initiation" and won't get you anywhere near a conversational level like the other introductory courses. And besides, the largest course (Ikasten) is also available in English. Alan R. King's "The Basque Language: A Practical Introduction" is pretty thorough and only available in English. "Standard Basque: A Progressive Grammar" (the massive 1,000+ page grammar) is also only available in English. Regardless, Basque resources aren't exactly in abundance.

I'd be happy to see either course (and have applied for both), but i think the course would be more beneficial to Spanish/French speakers (and there are more qualified people to make the course). I'm sure we will eventually have both courses, though.


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/PauBofill

Bai! I'm sure there are people that would like to learn Euskera and do not speak Spanish. On the other hand Basque is spoken mostly in Spain so everybody there also speaks Spanish, as you said. I think it'd be better to do directly from English and later on from Spanish. I'm pretty sure most people that want to learn Euskera also know English but not all of them know Spanish. I would've done the same for the Catalan course, but it seems they prefered to do it first for Spanish speakers. So, yeah, I must admit I can't wait to learn Basque! So I hope DL let's you start with the course soon or otherwise I will have already learnt it ;) Eskerrik asko!!


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Hugo_ranech

If you learn basque before the course of basque/spanish is created u can have part creating the course of basque/english as there are more English people interesed in this matter.


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/crush

I've been studying Basque over the past few years and sent in an application about a year ago.


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/JerradWilliams

Being of partial Basque ancestry, I'd absolutely love to the this course in the future in either English, Spanish, or French. The language is ridiculously hard to learn through the Colloquial course, and I feel as if it'd be much more enjoyable to learn by direct engagement through Duolingo.


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/crush

The Colloquial course is a pretty shallow course and doesn't cover much, the Assimil course (iniciación/initiation, in Spanish/French bases) is also hard but more thorough. Alan King's "The Basque Language: A Practical Introduction" is probably your best resource for getting starting. It's pretty thorough, there are lots of exercises, dialogs, and explanations, and even a graded reader. Of course, the ikasten.net course is also worth your attention, if you're really interested in learning Basque. It's what i'm currently working my way through :)

A course on Duolingo would of course be wonderful and we're all hoping it'll come one of these days, but until then you have some other options (and who knows, perhaps you can help write the course in the future!). Thanks for stopping by! If you've got any questions or anything, feel free to ask.


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/npme

Yeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeees please I wrote to duolingo support on this subject some time ago but no one answered. I have just found this by chance, I'm happy that there's more people interested!! I guessed there had to be, but did not know where to start looking. I'm basque myself and would be pleased to help (right now I can't, actually, but I'll keep an eye on this definitely). How beneficial would a Duolingo course be? I mean, many people here in the Basque Country and Spain have a negative attitude towards the language (because politics, impositions, etc etc etc); may be this could be a way of bringing some light -little though it may be- to the fact that it is just a language like any other, and that it is beautiful, like any other, and that there is beauty in learning and using it, like with any other. So, yeah. Let's do iiiiiiiiiiit.


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/JohnReid8

I love your attitude, I've wanted to learn Basque for some time now but I could never find a resource that would work for me, DuoLingo seems to be the best tool out there to learn languages.

It's a shame that Basque for English speakers isn't available, I'd love to take it. Although Basque for Spanish speakers seems likely to be available first, oh well, "good things come to those that wait".


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/JoanesPlaz

Kaaixoo, zela daukazu izena? Bueno, hor goian dagoen esteka batean ikus zenezake zeintzuk diren eskaera egiteko jarraitu beharreko pausuak :D Ahal izan ezkero egizu mesedez! Ea lortzen dugun denon artean hainbeste gustatuko litzaigukeen ikastaroa!


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/crush

Thanks for stopping by, there are a lot of folks interested in a Basque course, there have also been several people who've sent in applications to the incubator. And as JoanesPlaz mentions, even if you don't have the time to work on the course now if you'd be willing to work on the course in the future please send an application in to the incubator. The more people available to help the better the chances we have of getting the course approved!


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/DarrenGilmour

I would certainly be interested in taking the course if it became reality on Duolingo. Having just returned from a trip to the Basque Country, I have become very interested in learning basque, but haven't made any progress really.


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/zarzaal

Aquí otro futuro alumno :)


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/crush

Ojalá tengamos algo que ofrecerte pronto :)


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Little_Snail

Non dago gure ikastaroa!? Aditzen ikastearen baliabide hobea izango zen duolingoarekin.


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/crush

Bai, ados nago zurekin, Duolingo oso baliabide baliagarria litzateke aditzak ikasteko! Oraindik ikastaroaren zain gaude, ba...


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/aabayzid

Iturralde family member chiming in here! Being born and raised in CA by my greatgrandparents (Basque Iturraldes) I never got to learn the language. They used it and Spanish to speak to each other and would read Basque books. I was always fascinated but growing up didn't find a good means to learn it (or other languages not offered in school).

Duolingo has been great in the short time I've used it and I would definitely love to see them adapt Basque for English speakers! Understandably it will probably be Basque for French or Spanish first. Either way this ancient isolate would be a great addition to preserve and share globally!

Cheers for making this post!


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/crush

Thanks for stopping buy! Yes, i'm sure like Catalan it will probably be a course for Spanish speakers first, but once we get the first course out a course for English speakers will certainly be on the way :)

It's been a long journey but i and most other people i've met who study Basque have fallen in love with it.


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/BryanAJParry

I would love a Basque course, especially from English. I need it--my wife is Basque!!


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/crush

We're still pushing for it to come out... :)


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/BryanAJParry

Glad to hear it! :-D Any hint on when it might be a go?


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/crush

None at all, i haven't heard anything from Duolingo, though we've had quite a few more folks volunteer to create the course since the last time you stopped by :)


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/RandallR2

If they started a klingon course a basque course can happen though lol. The day the course is put in the incubator i'm volunteering for it because i got no word from duolingo yet on my application.


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    ¡Queremos Euskera!


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/CorradoLeo2

    Still waiting for the Basque course. Spanish Basque or French Basque should be great! Obviously, an English Basque course would certainly have more learners. What do you think guys? Is there a possibility of having this course in the next future: I can't wait for it!!!


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/crush

    Lo conseguiremos algún día de estos :)


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/pat159978

    Le basque est enseigné en France et représente une culture importante. Il mérite de figurer en bonne place dans l'application DUOLINGO. ;)


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Jesus849123

    JM Ramírez, el políglota colombiano autodidacta, ha ido por primera vez a Euskal Herria, el país de sus sueños, nada menos que a participar en un documental y a sacarse el EGA (título de Euskera nivel C1). Eskerrik asko Iñigo Asensio! Eskerrik asko Euskal Herria!

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iwclXZSjR1o

    NFORMACIÓN ACERCA DEL EGA:

    El EGA es un exigente examen ALTE de Euskera nivel C1, dividido en tres pruebas realizadas a lo largo de dos meses, siendo cada una prerrequisito de la siguiente:

    1. Atarikoa ("Preliminar" tipo test sobre gramática, léxico, conocimiento general del euskera estándar coloquial y escrito),

    2. Idatzizkoa ("Escrita", evalúa lectura intensiva y escritura de varios textos que emulan situaciones reales),

    3.Ahozkoa ("Oral", que incluye comprensión auditiva, exposición oral de un artículo y un debate por parejas).

    El EGA es un sistema de evaluación abierto que puede ser realizado por hablantes nativos o no nativos. De hecho, la mayoría tienden a ser jóvenes NATIVOS de entre 17 y 18 años que han hecho toda su educación en euskera, pero a partir de esa edad, hay de todas las edades.

    Hay otras pruebas de euskera que van desde B1 hasta C2, pero no son abiertas y uno debe de haber estudiado en alguna institución sobretodo en HABE.

    Aunque cada vez son más los hijos de inmigrantes que obtienen el EGA, los extranjeros que lo hacen siguen siendo una minoría. Conozco algunos casos concretos de extranjeros que no han crecido en Euskal Herria, pero que han estudiado en las Euskal Etxeak y en barnetegis, sobretodo en Maizpide.

    En mi caso, yo ni he recibido ayuda de las Euskal Etxeak ni he estudiado en barnetegis. Estudié el euskera de manera autodidacta durante años y desde Colombia, manteniendo contacto con vascos por internet y siguiendo los medios de comunicación en línea. Al llegar a Euskal Herria esto no cambió, seguí como autodidacta estudiando en la biblioteca (Tolosa, Gizpuzkoa), y practicando informalmente con amigos euskaldunes nativos de todos los herrialdes, menos Zuberoa!

    Si sabes euskera, y quieres obtener el EGA, estos links te pueden ser útiles:

    http://www.hezkuntza.ejgv.euskadi.eus...

    http://euskaljakintza.com/ega/ Cualquier inquietud u observación no dudes en comentar


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Jesus849123

    Ojalá le fichemos para el proyecto :)


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Readyforyou

    He visto que hay una nueva funcion para profesores donde podemos crear una sala,no tengo mucha idea sobre esta funcion y le he dado creas la sala y invitas a la gente,creo que es un buen paso para empezar,segun he visto puedes enviar un correo como invitacion a tu clase o simplemente añadir nombres,deduzco que se trata del nombre usuario de duolingo. Empezamos desde ahi? Creo que podemos demostrar bastante fuerza a Duolingo.


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/crush

    No sé de qué estás hablando exactamente (creo que las salas son para profesorxs de idiomas que ya ofrecen aquí en Duolingo, (como el inglés, el francés o el catalán), pero sí a lo mejore sería bueno crear un espacio donde podríamos organizarnos un poco mejor y posiblemente crear un curso aquí o crear uno propio desde cero. Si tienes alguna idea sobre esto, estoy todo oídos...


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Readyforyou

    Si desgraciadamente no se puede crear un nuevo curso en una sala,al menos eso me han dado a entender,me parece que va a tocar hacer un post enseñando lo basico o algo parecido para que duolingo se entere,aun asi les mande un feedback linkandoles este post con mi solicitud,creo que era cuando estaba en la sala de profesores,esperemos que alguna vez toque y lo lean.


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/maitanem

    Kaixo,

    Soy Maitane. Estoy encantada de poder colaborar con vosotros, así que estoy deseando que se ponga en marcha esto.

    Laster arte.


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/crush

    Kaixo Maitane! Gracias por ofrecer a ayudarnos, ¿has enviado una solicitud a la incubadora ya? Somos muchxs lxs que estamos esperando con ansias alguna noticia del equipo de Duolingo, y cuantxs más mejor :)


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/maitanem

    Kaixo, pues si te refieres al cuestionario que hay que hacer, si que lo he hecho y enviado


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/ChevalierduTemps

    No dejemos que esta lengua tan bella y única muera ¡Agréguenla!


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/crush

    Gracias por el apoyo :)


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/KeithAnthis

    I would really like to have the chance to study Basque on here. I think it is an important language within Spain (and even a small area of France), and it would help broaden people's appreciation of Spain and one of its various cultures.


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Marigorri

    I first heard the Basque language in the French part of Basque Country and I think that it is fair to say that Basque is no more important in Spain than it is in France. I am with you in hoping to study Basque on Duolingo, but please do not make the Basque language a Spanish thing.


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/litospayaso

    Hola a todos.

    He invertido los últimos meses en intentar crear una app parecida a duolingo para aprender euskera y esta última semana le he añadido los ejercicios de audios (para hacerla lo más similar posible). Creo que es una buena herramienta para comenzar a aprender euskera mientras esperamos que duolingo saque su curso, y si domináis el idioma estoy abierto a feedback para poder mejorarla.

    Os la dejo por aquí:

    https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=angelita.bagoaz&hl=es

    Un saludo!


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Dellesh

    Buenas, hay alguna otra forma de conseguir la app?


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Jesus849123

    En play store está ¿Esta también en Iphone? , en este foro hay gente nativa y gente que domina el Idioma


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Jesus849123

    Muchisimas gracias, aquí hay gente que domina el idioma si, en este mismo foro


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Black_Eagle71

    Hello there. I came here to express my grand support for the Basque language project. I have a degree in Sociology and in Iberian Studies (though specialized in Portuguese language and literature). Minorities on the Spanish territory has always been something that brought my attention, probably because I'm a member of a minority myself. Eventually, I turned my academic interests towards identity studies. Basque nationality and identity became very close to my heart so I decided that I would travel to Euskal Herria for the first time only when I get to be able to communicate smoothly in Basque. To conclude: I hope to see Basque language here as soon as possible. Good day to you all :)


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/crush

    Hello Black_Eagle71, like you i am very interested in Basque identity, the history of the Basque Country and its language is amazing. There are many great courses available for learning the language, i've mentioned a few here in this thread, but if you are interested in learning Basque i'd be more than happy to help and point out my favorite resources :)


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Black_Eagle71

    I'll be more than happy to know your resources, crush!


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/crush

    For books:
    The Basque Language: A Practical Introduction - Alan R. King (very comprehensive and good resource for going from zero to intermediate, probably best book for English speakers)

    The Basque Language: Second Draft - an early manuscript of the other book available online for free. The contents are completely different but it covers a similar amount of the language.

    Gorka's course - there's also an English translation ("Course of English", link in the upper right). I started updating it, fixing typos and grammatical mistakes in the English and adding some explanations, but only got through the first 6 or 7 chapters. I could be convinced to continue on with it though ;) It throws a lot of information at you at once though, but is a nice quick overview of the language as a whole.

    Grammar:
    "Standard Basque: A Progressive Grammar" from MIT press - a pretty huge book but the explanations are much easier to understand than most grammar books. It covers a ton of topics, probably more stuff than most native Basque speakers know.

    Dictionary:
    Elhuyar online dictionary - this is my favorite dictionary. The English translations are good, but i generally use the Spanish dictionary which is more complete and has more example sentences.

    Online course:
    Ikasten.net - the #1 resource for learning Basque. The technology is a bit old but the content is great, tons of audio, graded texts, grammar explanations, etc. The course goes from A1-B2, and it's 100% free. You have to create an account and they'll ask for a bunch of information, just make it up.

    I also started putting up a list of resources and a sampling of a lot of Basque music here:
    https://forum.language-learners.org/viewtopic.php?f=26t=5205

    (Feel free to sign up there as well if you'd like!)

    Ah, and i recently published a book on Basque Mythology ( Euskal Mitologia ) for students of Basque. If you'd like a PDF of it, feel free to get in touch with me, i'd be happy to send a copy your way (or to anyone else interested) :) We're working on getting more books for learning Basque published, we've found another set of classic Basque stories that we've begun translating and have also gotten in touch with contemporary Basque authors to start using their works for creating Basque language learning materials. Hopefully we can make it easier for students to start reading genuine, contemporary Basque literature.


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Olbapz

    Hey Crush, keep up the good work! This forum has been up for almost 3 years now, someday we will see a duolingo course haha. I checked out your book you published, WOW, I'm so impressed really! I'm just floored really, it is exactly what a learner might want. So cool!


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/RickBradleyUSA

    Hi Crush Glad to see you are still active. I started trying to learn some Basque as I plan on being in the area this summer, and got interested as the language is so different from any other language I have studied. There are a number of resources in English and Spanish on the Internet, but none are complete, and there are some conflicts in the information put out. Memrise has some nice lessons, but none really cover the topic well. Other sites have little or no grammar explanation and just have long lists, and few include audio files. By reading A Brief Grammar of Euskara, the Free Course of Basque and comparing information on different sites I am starting to get a feel for the language, but still confused. Like what is the difference in "Ni Noa" and "Joaten dut", both seem to mean I go. In your postings you discussed the past and future tenses, that combined with the Old Duolingo course on Memrise, helps clear up things, but it takes time to wade through everything, so any course on Duolingo will need a clear explanation of grammar. I also think any course should focus on being practical first. Instead of learning "The dirty pig is eating vegetables" or "The priest and the sorceress are not enemies" it would be better to learn things like "Where is the toilet?" and "How much is the bread?" I really am having a hard time thinking of when I would be discussing Sorceresses(Ok after re-reading Duo goes to Basque Country, maybe witches, but not till after finding the toilet) or the friendship of foxes and rabbits during my trip., I also think that the number of new words should be limited each lesson, as it is much harder to learn the vocabulary for Basque than for other European languages. One site had some 30 to 40 new words every lesson. It would be nice if a number of the different people making lessons could work together as there is a lot of duplication and little to no cross-fertilization of ideas. Maybe the Basque government could be approached to provide support, as a good Duolingo course would be a great tool for learning the language. Anyway, thanks for your contributions. rgb


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/crush

    Heh, i was going to say that "sorceress" might be a more useful word to know in Basque than in most languages, in fact the word "akelarre" (used for the ceremony of the old pagan Basque witches) has entered the Spanish language (as "aquelarre"), which can be used generally to refer to an uproar or loud boisterous event ;)

    And i would highly recommend picking up Alan R. King's "The Basque Language: A Practical Introduction" if you're serious about learning Basque. It's one of the best resources available. Basque verbs are much more complicated and carry much more information. The verb "joan" is a bit of a special case since it has it's own conjugation, most verbs don't. Only a very small handful do. But joaten naiz (note that it's naiz, not dut, because joan is an intransitive verb) would generally be used for something that happens repeatedly, like "I tend to go" or "I frequently go".

    And with Basque the vocabulary doesn't matter as much as the grammar in my opinion. To say "The dirty pig is eating vegetables" in Basque you will be using a lot of grammatical concepts, you need to mark the subject (Basque is an ergative language, so the subject is marked, not the direct object), know that the direct object is 3rd person plural, and put it in the right tense. Though the progressive tenses in Basque are a bit easier, since a lot of that information is left out:
    Txerri zikinak barazkiak jaten ditu - The dirty pig eats vegetables
    Txerri zikina barazkiak jaten ari da - The dirty pig is eating vegetables

    But yeah, introducing useful vocabulary and phrases is definitely much better ;) If you have any questions on Basque grammar you can ask here or also at the Unilang forums.


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/RickBradleyUSA

    Hi Crush. Thanks for the answer, but I am now confused. Gorka described the difference of IZAN and EGON as being like ser and estar in Spanish, so I was guessing that when verbs are converted to present tense using -ten it would use EGON. I have been thinking of getting Alan R. King's "The Basque Language: A Practical Introduction" but am now in SE Asia so shipping cost more than the price of the book, sometimes twice, and I am mostly interested in getting to a basic conversation level, as my main goal is to be respectful and polite as I wander across the area. If I have to I can always fall back on Spanish. I will likely sign up for the free course you mentioned, once I have finished working through what I have now. I have picked up quite a bit of the language, and could understand most of the Basque in your DUO goes to Basque post, but still need to work a bit, especially on vocabulary. Also thanks for the offer to send me a pdf of you book on Basque Myths, but I don't want to cheat you of money. I'll wait till I return to Europe or the US where can buy it or ask one of my in-laws or friends to pick it up for me. I still think that if Euskaltzaindia could be persuaded to support the development of a Duolingo course, it would be the best way. It would greatly boost the number of people interested in Basque and the number of people with at least a basic proficiency. A good start could be made by taking all the introductions to Basque courses and picking out the best. Next would be to get people to fill in the gaps, but someone needs to be the coordinator and the material needs to be tested. I don't think just copying the Spanish tree would work as Basque is so different. Anyway, thanks again Take care rgb


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/crush

    Yes, you can use egon/izan similar to Spanish's estar/ser, however egon is not generally used as an auxiliary verb, only izan (and ukan or whatever you want to call the dut, du, duzu, etc. forms). The further east and north you go, the more likely you are to see people just use izan for both ser and estar. Gorka does mention that you can use egon + t(z)en for the present continuous, but later i believe he mentions that it's considered incorrect.

    The -t(z)en forms are more of a habitual present, similar to the simple present in English: I go to the store (once a week), I eat vegetables (every night), etc. In Batua, the present continuous is usually exressed with the -t(z)en participle + ari + izan, eg. euskara ikasten ari naiz (I'm studying Basque), sagarrak jaten ari gara (We're eating apples), etc. And with the ari izan form, you don't need to modify the verb according to the direct object like you usually do.

    I've put together scans of the first ten or maybe eleven chapters of Alan King's book if you're interested in checking it out first. Alternatively, the old manuscript he put up on his website is also very comprehensive, i haven't gone through it but i've skimmed through it and it seems to cover quite a bit.

    And regarding the Basque book, it's a great way to work on your vocabulary and reinforce the grammar you've studied. We didn't publish it to get rich, just to help other folks learn. We sell them to help pay for translators and voice artists to make books in languages we don't (yet) speak, but the goal is to help folks learn.

    We've (or at least i) have already gotten in touch with a lot of Basque institutions, a lot of euskaltegiak (both in the Basque Country and abroad) and the Euskaltzaindia. A couple places have posted about it in their blogs, a few people have committed to volunteering for the course (though i'm not sure we ever received any confirmation that they did), but mostly there hasn't been a lot of feedback.

    And no, i don't think the Spanish tree would be a good starting point. There are a lot of different things to keep in mind, i've actually put together an outline of skills/topics which you can see here organized roughly by level of difficulty and building upon each other. It's mostly grammatical (and mostly focused on the verb system). I also started making a course for the first few lessons, but didn't get too far.

    And i also just came back west after five years in China ;)


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/RickBradleyUSA

    Hi Crush Thanks for your answer. I hope my email went through. I guess I really need to wade through a real grammar book. In the Memrise Old Duolingo "you go" was translated as Joaten zara, but I didn't pick up on it I started working though the course on www.kondaira.net/ikastaroa, but will see if I can find Alan King's old version online It seems his website is not available right now. Anyway good luck in getting Duolingo to host a Basque course regards rgb


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/crush

    Yep, got your e-mail and sent you a response. And the site's loading for me, here's the link:
    http://www.alanrking.info/a-basque-course-second-draft/

    Just checked that site out, looks pretty comprehensive as well. Nice find!


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Ioseba8

    Hola crush! Me encanta el ánimo que le estás poniendo a esto. Yo no hablo euskera pero me encantaría estudiarlo. Si hay algo que pueda hacer para ayudar solo dímelo, mi padre si es euskaldun. Vi que habían unas instrucciones para aplicar pero estaban en euskera y pues no las he entendido jaja. Por cierto, me he apuntado para ayudarles con el curso de chino, que ese sí lo domino bastante bien. Saludos!


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Hugo_ranech

    Yo sí hablo euskera (vasco) pero si duolingo no nos deja no podemos crear el curso. Llevamos 2 años con esto...


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/crush

    Ya son casi tres años, pero algún día tendrán que añadirlo. Parece que últimamente están más interesados en los idiomas asiáticos más populares, como el coreano, el japonés y el chino mandarín. A lo mejor tras publicar estos idiomas volverán a la península ibérica...


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/crush

    Bueno las instrucciones son para hacer la solicitud en la incubadora, si tu padre estaría dispuesto a ayudarnos en la creación del curso (aunque sólo sea una o dos horas a la semana) pues puede rellenar la solicitud y así tenemos a otro colaborador.

    Lo mejor que podemos hacer de momento es hacer correr la voz para que el equipo de Duolingo sepa que tenemos mucho interés en crear el curso y que hay muchas personas deseando aprenderlo. Gracias por el apoyo, Ioseba!


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Julia_DelaTorre

    ¡Hola! Acabo de ver este post ahora y eso que tiene dos años... ¿Han avanzado algo las cosas desde entonces?

    Desde luego, aquí teneis una futura alumna (cuando acabe el árbol de catalán), sí o sí!

    He visto el link del principio pero estaba en euskera asi que entiendo que es solo para futuros colaboradores. No hay algún sitio en el que las futuras alumnas podamos indicar a duolingo que hay un idioma que nos interesa?

    Un saludo y gracias por la iniciativa!


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Hugo_ranech

    Yo hablo euskera (vasco) y me encantaría poder ayudar a que el curso se cree pero Duolingo puede que no esté muy interesado en una lengua tan poco hablada.

    Bada, nik badakit euskeraz hitz egiten eta gustatuko litzaidake ikastaro honen sorkuntzan parte hartzea. Baina, dirudienez Duolingok ez dauka interes handirik gutxiegi hitz egiten den hizkuntzetan.


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Jesus849123

    Ánimo muchachos :) Ausardia mutilak!


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/crush

    Estamos formulando otra solicitud, si tienes interés en ayudar a corregir lo que se ha escrito hasta la fecha sería fenomenal. Un hombre lleva medio año escribiendo apuntes de gramática y organizando la primera mitad del árbol:
    https://drive.google.com/file/d/1mALUcXonuNhnv2X1MjERW8gFQiU2dLq0/view

    Faltan muchas cosas y muchas frases tienen errores, pero la estructura está ahí, aunque algunas partes tienen demasiadas lecciones.

    Bueno si tienes interés ponte en contacto! Podríamos discutirlo desde nuestro servidor Discord por ejemplo.


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Naroa225

    Eskerrik asko :-)


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/crush

    A lo mejor puedes mostrar tu apoyo votando aquí y tal vez a través de Twítter también. Seguimos intentándolo, aún no nos hemos rendido!


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/.stiR

    Euskara for English speakers would be great :)


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Arantza932968

    Personal de Duolingo, el Euskera es un idioma muy utilizado y necesario en el pais vasco, por favor dar una oportunidad a esta lengua.


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/crush

    Eskerrik asko zure hitzengatik, egun batean lortuko dugu!


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Basajuana

    Yes, I would love to see a Basque duolingo. Although I am not Basque myself, I have been operating a Basque website for 10 years where I review Batua literature for English learners. This does not mean that I am fluent. My grammar needs improvement and my experience with ikasten.net has had limited benefits. I have a good knowledge of Basque writers (including philosophy) and have done considerable translations for Google Translate's website(I always verify vocabulary with multiple sources). I would be happy to assist with the setup if requested.https://euskalliburuak.blogspot.com/


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Jesus849123

    Oso ondo, eskerrik asko eta animo :)


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Kholerikos

    I hope this happens


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Hugo_ranech

    En serio ¿Qué más necesita Duolingo? ¿Acaso pasa por alto todo el apoyo que recibe la idea para crear el curso?

    Benetan, Zer gehiago behar du Duolingok? Kurtsoa sortzeko ideiak jaso duen laguntza guztia ahaztu al du?


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Jesus849123

    Debemos considerar que Duolingo quiere crear el curso. Las personas que integran la comunidad son muy profesionales. Han creado muchos cursos y crearán mas. Alguna vez nos tocará.

    Oso ondo eskerrik asko eta animo :)


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/jedzieszjoanna

    I'd love to learn Basque via Duolingo! :)


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/fc0292

    I support that!!


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Jesus849123

    Nos hacen falta votos positivos, comentarios y lingotes gracias ;)

    We need positive feedback, comments and lingots thanks;)


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Elaine696469

    I would like to do Basque on Duolingo.


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Ionae1

    Que esté el Navajo en la incubadora y el Euskara no, es una vergüenza, y desacredita todas las excusas que han dado los admins de Duolingo.


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/MB7783

    ¿que excusan han dado?, estoy completamente seguro de que si en ves de euskera, pedimos chino japones o danes aprueban la solicitud de una vez


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Jesus849123

    La opinión de la jefa de la incubadora es "Actualmente tenemos un conjunto completo de cursos y no podremos agregar más a la fase de construcción en el futuro inmediato (¡aunque nos gustaría!). Sin embargo, nos aseguraremos de comunicarnos si esto cambia en cualquier momento." Dada el 30 mar. 2018 :)


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/ZionReichert04

    Wow, this is great! I certainly hope this happens! I totally support.


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/JackOLantern8

    OH MY GOSH! it has been a dream of mine to learn Basque and I think it is important for Duolingo to honor this Indo-European isolate and 'endangered' language! All for this


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Sonia344764

    Estuve buscando el curso en Euskera y he acabado aquí. Ojalá admitan pronto la solicitud y poder estudiarlo.


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/vahnah

    Queremos aprender euskera!!! ;) incubadora ya! ;D


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/torshavn00

    Would definitely be interested. Hopefully something comes out of this!


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/marizas7

    Por favor. Un curso de euskera pronto, aunque sea de inglés a euskera. Eskerrik asko!


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Thomas_Vigie

    I am Basque myself, but never really learnt the language, only the basics of it. You should definitely get it on Duolingo. You might be able to get help from the Basque Academy, located in Bilbao, Spain. There is also a French academy of Basque that I am sure will help you develop the course !


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Cypher922476

    Just putting my hand up as another person who'd love to learn Basque. It's at the top of my wishlist for Duo to implement.

    It's a fascinating language!


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/KDqPp5

    Basque would have been the first language I elected to learn using Duolingo if it had been available. Practice opportunities and study resources for English speakers are sparse at best. I feel like I need to learn French so that I can access resources to learn Euskara. I'm adding another voice to this same request.


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/SniperWolff90

    Oh please make it happen! It's such a hard language to learn


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/SanokYecad

    I would love to learn Basque in Duolingo! I hope Duolingo staff still considers creating it!


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/damiantorko

    Euskera! Euskera! Au - rre - ra!!


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/CroneWoman

    I am very much interested in learning the Basque language. I see that I am 4 years late in joining the conversation; is this still a thing you are working towards?


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Franki1993

    Definitivamente el menosprecio al Euskera es demencial , por favor se tiene que reactivar la reclamación al mas alto nivel !! Eskerrik asko !!


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/GiovanniGi9755

    Euskera all the way!!!!!!!!!!!!!


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/SirRelec

    Yes please Basque. Put me on the petition. Euskara is an important indigenous language of Europe.


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/dustinguerri

    I'm about to start a face-to-face Basque course in Barcelona and would love to see a Basque course in Duolingo, to support my learning.


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Daniel965076

    I would love to move to Bilbao for a while. So I am strongly supporting any Basque efforts here. Thanks for everything that happened here already. Please make it happen! :)


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/gregorio244571

    Wow, 4 years ago and they still haven’t introduced Euskera

    Shame


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/RickBradleyUSA

    I know. It is very frustrating for everyone involved. We have people who want to learn, people who want to contribute and even a draft course ready, but can't get it into the incubator. I have been looking at other platforms, but so far either not a good match or no replies. Best wishes rgb


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/beenaat_04

    Kaixo!! Ni Euskalduna naiz, nire ama-hizkuntza euskera da, eta prest nago ahal den guztia laguntzen euskera duolingon sartzeko.


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/AgustinCar9

    Kaixo,

    Metete en la incubadura y ofrecete para ayudar a crear el curso.

    Aquí explicamos como hacerlo: https://www.change.org/p/press-duolingo-com-curso-de-duolingo-en-euskera/u/24833087

    Agur


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Noem886425

    Ya se ha iniciado? Muchas gracias a los que os pegáis el currazo.


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/SergioUnzueta

    ¡Vamos! ¿Cómo voto? ¿Dónde me apunto?


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/KnowHun167895432

    I'm definitely interested in learning Basque/Euskara.


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/helenfiona1

    I would be interested


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Jesus849123

    El euskera no será el idioma más pequeño en Duolingo: el hawaiano, agregado el año pasado, solo lo hablan 18.610 personas, según los datos del censo estadounidense* pero los amantes del idioma esperan que la cantidad de hablantes aumente, como lo han hecho para galeses e irlandeses. .Gaélico, hawaiano y navajo han sido seleccionados después de muchos años de campaña, Criollo haitiano, Yiddish y finlandés todavía están en preparación. FUENTE * http://files.hawaii.gov/dbedt/census/acs/ACS2013/ACS2013_5_Year/Other_Files/Highlights_2009_13_acs_lang_spoke_home_hi.pdf


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Jesus849123

    Hola amigos :)

    Excelente idea, sería maravilloso tener un sistema para pagar voluntarios, ir a una plataforma de crowdfunding, donaciones, etc. ¿Cómo podría hacerse esto? Esto motivaría a voluntarios euskaldunes calificados y no sería una "exclavitud", gracias y deja tus opiniones, por favor ... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kw0nqYCwSRo


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/monicaatomas

    Basque is the next language I want to learn! I would learn it from English, Spanish, French, or Catalan (one can dream). Is this request still active?


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/superjujue

    Gora Euskadi on Duolingo!


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Maus344603

    We'd love to have Basque from Spanish as well!! Don't let this die please!


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/antonkano

    Estaría genial un curso de euskera, sería el primero en hacerlo que me encanta la cultura vasca. Un saludo.


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/AgustinCar9

    Estoy contigo, lleva mucho tiempo pendiente y Duolingo no lo crea, hay muchos voluntarios que se han ofrecido. CURSO DE EUKERA YA.


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Dendera

    Mi apoyo total. Hace tiempo que comentamos con mi marido la necesidad de incluirlo en Duolingo. En cuanto esté empezaremos a estudiarlo. Gracias


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Alexandre76899

    I'll learn some basque anyway. Having it on Duolingo, along with Breton and Sorbian, would be great news :)


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Alsender3

    Kaixo denoi! Gure Discord zerbitzaria, The Language Café, hitzunak eta ikasleak bilatzen ditu! Gure zerbitzaria hizkuntza asko ditu praktikatzeko eta murgitzeko! https://discord.gg/AG4NMKJ


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/MariaaForns

    Fa un temps vaig començar a estudiar Euskera batua. Espero que estigui disponible a Duolingo properament! Hace un tiempo empecé Euskera batua. Espero que esté disponible próximamente en Duolingo! I started to learn Euskera batua some time ago. I hope it will be avaliable very soon!


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/MirenG2

    I'm waiting for this class to begin, I can't wait to learn euskara !!


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Jesus849123

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Du5EwVVe99Y&t=2s

    Kaixo:)

    Baiezko botoak eta iruzkinak behar ditugu Duolingo foroan, eskerrik asko;)

    https://forum.duolingo.com/comment/7674974

    Beno, Crush lankideak egin duen lehen iruzkinean, " ¡Vamos, empecemos ya!" Esaldiarekin amaitzen da iruzkina: iruzkin horren azpian "355" zenbaki bat dago, triangelutxo bat gora begira duena "^" eman behar diozu, eta ikusiko duzu "356" bihurtzen dela ...

    Horrela egin dezakezu gustuko dituzun iruzkin guzti-guztiekin. Hori baiezko boto "^" bat da, ikastaroa onartzeko zenbat eta boto positibo gehiago hobe.

    Aukera bikaina litzateke, Duolingo Euskara Ikastaro bat, mesedez lagundu, eskerrik asko :-)


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Jesus849123

    Kaixo, Llevamos mucho tiempo( casi 5 años) pidiendo el curso en Euskera para castellano hablantes a Duolingo y siguen si responder. Idiomas mas pequeños lo han conseguido por eso hemos recopilado los 2 pasos para hacerlo: 1- Si eres bilingue apúntate aquí: https://incubator.duolingo.com/apply En "¿A cuál curso quieres contribuir?" elige "Ingresa otro" y escribes Euskera y en "para hablantes de" elige Español 2- Entra en el foro https://forum.duolingo.com/comment/7674974 Vota el primer comentario y dale a Regalar lingote si tienes.Es mejor este foro que otros por ser el más numeroso.

    A ver si se dan por aludidos.


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Marigorri

    I would prefer to learn Basque from English because I speak English fluently. But I am studying Spanish so I might be able to learn Basque from Spanish as well. It only has to happen, that Duolingo course Basque.

    There must be older replies from me here. But like everybody else I am still waiting.


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/SebastianA823724

    Quiero que euskera esté en Duolingo, como descendiente y portador de un apellido vasco quiero que mi familia y el resto del mundo tenga acceso a este maravillos idioma


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Philemon369339

    Estoy aprendiendo el espanol para aprender el vasco


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Marigorri

    Yo también!


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Jesus849123

    Muy bien el español es muy bonito y muy útil. Una gran literatura como el Quijote o Cien años de soledad :)


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Jesus849123

    Suas bhòtaichean airson a ’chànan Basque Baiezko botoak euskararentzat / Votos positivos para el euskera / Votes positifs pour la langue basque / Up votes for the Basque language / Pozitivaj voĉdonoj por la eŭska lingvo https://imgur.com/a/bQJRhMJ


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/damiantorko

    Lanték UNHÚ retám EUSKÉRA ! <3


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Dominika523420

    So many years and still nothing. But I hope, that one day we will see Euskara course on duolingo!


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/CATcCAT

    As a native Catalan speaker I feel a lot of similarities with Basque Country. And I wanted always to speak a bit Basque.

    Duolingo should help this language because it must be more spoken.

    Firstly It should be a course for Spanish speakers and then in the future for English speakers.


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/JennePross

    I would add Basque immediately, it's fascinating!


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Marigorri

    I would be so happy if one day I would open Duolingo and find the Basque course finally happening. It is so ridiculous that there is a course for Klingon but not for Basque.


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Toisichear

    Now that Scottish Gaelic is on the site I'd love to see a Basque course too


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/JamelSheperson

    I know this topic is quite old but I began recently using Duolingo and I see it now for the first time. It's a wonderful idea to try to make a Basque course! If it is still a project, I indicate that I would be very happy to help. I guess the course would be in Spanish and it don't speak it well (because I live in northern Basque Country), but if I can help let me know. I speak Basque and French (very) well, and also English quite well and Spanish a little bit. Good luck !


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Readyforyou

    Hello everyone, it's been 5 years and I have seen that duolingo did not add any courses in Basque.

    It is quite disappointing news, so I have proposed to create a Basque language channel in Telegram, which is currently in the beginning phase but I am adding content every day. Currently, the translation is from Basque to Spanish as these are my mother tongues.

    I would like to know if you would be interested in entering the "Basque course" and if someone who knows Basque would be able to collaborate much better, since for one person it can be a great job.


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Marigorri

    I am not a regular Telegram user, and I am still learning Spanish. So this format would not be the one I prefer. Still, if Duolingo continues to refuse to add a Basque course, I might try it.


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Readyforyou

    I'm taking a telegram course in Euskera for now only EUSKERA-SPANISH, but I could do it Euskera-English (t.me/euskerazbizi)


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/IrisIruna

    I just joined and it's pretty nice. Still, telegram is not the best way to learn a language, so I hope they will notice us and start the course already.

    I'm really disappointed in Duolingo.


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Readyforyou

    Bueno al final telegram es una forma directa de aprender, ya que lo tienes en el movil y al final le echas un vistazo y si vuelves a verlo cada vez que entras al canal esas palabras que se usan,te sonaran y acabaras recordandolas y despues sabiendo el significado.

    La verdad que me hubiera gustado que duolingo como plataforma, nos hubiera dado un buen sitio donde crear contenido con mas gente interesada y de una manera mas rapida y eficaz,se puede decir que este canal que he creado es un "parche", para que si algun dia duolingo decide crear un lugar para aprender euskera, ya tengas una base,aunque sea solo sabiendo algunas palabras sueltas,ya que de esa manera se te hara mas comodo entender los ejercicios que te ponga la duolingo.

    Se que telegram no tiene los recursos graficos de duolingo, y eso puede hacer dificil ejemplificar una palabra, con una imagen,pero bueno, por ahora se puede decir que es lo que hay, y tengo que amoldarme a los emoticonos basicos que trae,pero bueno siempre intentare que se haga ameno el aprendizaje.

    Well, at the end, the telegram is a direct way to learn, since you have it in your mobile phone and at the end you take a look at it and if you see it again every time you enter the channel, those words that are used will ring and you will end up remembering them and then knowing the meaning.

    The truth is that I would have liked duolingo as a platform, would have given us a good place to create content with more people interested and a faster and more effective, you can say that this channel I created is a "patch", so that if someday duolingo decides to create a place to learn Basque, you already have a base, even if only knowing a few words, because that way you will be more comfortable to understand the exercises that you put the duolingo.

    I know that telegram does not have the graphic resources of duolingo, and that can make difficult to exemplify a word, with an image, but good, for now you can say that it is what there is, and I have to adapt myself to the basic emoticons that it brings, but good I will always try that the learning is made pleasant.


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/RickBradleyUSA

    I wish you all the best. I was part of a group that tried to make a skeleton course for duolingo - https://forum.duolingo.com/comment/26622081- but not much has been done in a long time and everyone finally just gave up.


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Readyforyou

    At the moment I only work in the channel, every day I try to put new topics and some explanations and some tricks to be able to pronounce it well, the advantage that has the Basque is that in the majority of words it is spoken as it is written, so in the end that type of things I can "skip them" what does that the content is more dynamic.

    I'll try to keep the channel running for a long time, although a little help from people who know Basque wouldn't hurt, to cover the time I can't spend on the channel, although as I take it seriously I'm almost all day long waiting to put it on.

    In fact, there is a person who wants to take the A1 out of Basque, so that also motivates me to "professionalize" and give it a usable approach so that people can take exams later.


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/RickBradleyUSA

    When I was working on the basque course I mentioned above, I found it really hard to follow the examples and guidelines for the European levels as a sentence that is A2 in German or Spanish or Italian would often involve much harder grammar structures in Basque, so I focused on trying to just introduce the different grammar elements slowly, with explanations. But in any case, best of luck.


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Readyforyou

    Thank you! I'll take a look at your work.


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Readyforyou

    I've seen some mistakes in the Basque part, but you've done a good job. I don't know if I can tell you what the mistakes are, because like you said, it's abandoned.


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/RickBradleyUSA

    I am sure there are mistakes, as I was far from fluent. If you want I could turn over the site and the material to you. The goal was to create a course that could let Basque go Beta if it every is added to Duolingo


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Readyforyou

    If you want, share the drive with me and I'll try to improve the Basque parts, to see if there is a "bad translation", so if you want you can put content in English and I in Basque.

    I say this, because I have a low level of English and that's why I haven't created the English-Basque course.

    Although I must say that in general you have done an excellent job.

    What happens, that duolingo does not have to send you a private message, right?


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/RickBradleyUSA

    Let me know if you got it. I deleted original so don't get a lot of spam.


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Marigorri

    I would prefer English since Spanish is a language I am still learning. But I would also have to install and start using Telegram. I might do so, if Duolingo continues to refuse to add a Basque course.


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Readyforyou

    Do not worry, for now, I'm starting to create the channel and put content, I imagine that when everything is well done and is suitable to share with more people, in this case in another language, I imagine that I will create a course of Euskera-English with the content previously done and would be translated into English and so only have to worry to solve any doubt if there is.


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Naroa225

    Eskerrik asko!


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Readyforyou

    Ez orregatik :)


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Elena244545

    o soy nula... no lo encuentro! shouldn't I just put the name of the course in the search box? I get 3 suggestions at a time but not this one! argitu mesedez


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Elena244545

    vaaale, que no habiais puesto el nombre tal cual. Ikusi arte, aurkitu zaitut


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Readyforyou

    La verdad que soy nuevo creando canales en telegram,vi el enlace y simplemente lo copie,imagino que esta hecho para acceder mediante un navegador web pero si en principio si se pone en la busqueda de telegram euskerazbizi,deberia salir. Como es normal he creado un grupo del canal para que se pueda hablar ya que en un canal solo puede "hablar" por asi decir el creador del canal y algun moderador, el grupo se llama Euskeraz? Zergatik ez? Telegram taldea,me lo podrias verificar haber si sale? De todos modos dentro del canal he puesto un enlace directo al grupo.


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Elena244545

    Found it! Shame you can't add/exchange questions though


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Readyforyou

    Si en el grupo puedes hacerlo.


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Elena244545

    soy muy nula. podrias poner como mesedez? alli o aqui mil esker


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Readyforyou

    Se llama: Euskeraz? Zergatik ez? Telegram taldea.

    En el canal como te llamas? A si te lo paso directamente.


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Elena244545

    En el canal tengo babarruna de nombre publico. Eskerrik asko


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Bea707

    Hello, the app is Telegram or Telegram Messenger? Thank you!!


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Bea707

    Hello there! I just posted in ‘Educators’ a question about why they are ignoring our pleas to add Euskera here. I hope someone from Duolingo will answer (fingers crossed). Have a great weekend! Be safe!


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/spanishzacd

    Side note: I think its very cool how you replaced the possible "o" or "a" in the words where it wasn't definite like futurxs moderadorxs instead of futuros moderadores or futuras moderadoras haha.


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/xavi_fr

    I didn't realized this, though it was a typo :D


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Golden_Owl

    He leído algún comentario respecto a la fácil implementacion de un idioma como el Euskera en Duolingo.No pretendo desanimar a nadie pero una de las cosas más complicadas en el aprendizaje del vasco son los verbos.Y eso que ni siquiera se estudian en su totalidad en una escuela de Euskera(euskaltegi).En Euskera existen varios tratamientos,como el usted y el tú en español,pero con la peculiaridad de que en este idioma se diferencia entre masculino y femenino,es decir,si me dirijo a un hombre o a una mujer,y si éso fuera poco todos los auxiliares del verbo han de cambiarse en relacion al tratamiento,en español sólo se modifican las formas directas...por ejemplo:Usted ha hecho eso. /Tú haS hecho eso.Si hablo con esa misma persona y le digo....Ellos han hecho eso...aqui no modifico nada(le trate de usted o de tú ya que estoy hablando de otras personas). En vasco: Tú has hecho:zuk egin duzu(tratamiento neutro) Tú has hecho:hik egin duk(tratamiento informal masculino) Tú has hecho:hik egin dun(informal femenino) Ellos lo han hecho:haiek egin dute(tratamiento neutro) Ellos lo han hecho:haiek egin ditek(informal masculino) Ellos lo han hecho:haiek egin diten(informal femenino). Yo estaba:ni nengoen(neutro) Ni nengoan,nengonan(masc./fem) Yo lo ví:nik ikusi nuen. Nik Ikusi nian/niñan(masc./fem.) Que no cunda el pánico...sólo se enseñará el tratamiento neutro en Duolingo,o no se podrìa finalizar el curso ni en dos años :) Existe también unos sistemas llamados Nor-Nork y Nor-Nori-Nork que éstos sí que son necesario aprender y no me imagino cómo explicarlos en un sistema de estudio como Duolingo,pero bueno,supongo que la gente que realice el curso tendrá mucho tiempo para pensarlo.


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/crush

    Creo que si se abordan las cosas una por una no será tan complicado. Claro, intentar enseñarlo todo a la vez confundiría a cualquiera, pero todos los idiomas tienen sus puntos fáciles y puntos más complicados. Por ejemplo, en alemán, hay tres géneros (masculino, femenino, neutro) y sus formas cambian para cada género. En euskara, las terminaciones del caso nori no cambian según el género de la palabra (ya que no hay género gramatical), en alemán en cambio sí cambian.

    Para enseñar el Nor/Nor-Nork/Nor-Nori/Nor-Nori-Nork, se hace del mismo modo que lo hacen casi todos los cursos: uno por uno. Primero se empieza con el caso Nor (ni mutila naiz, zu neska zara, haiek gizonak dira, gu etortzen gara), después el Nor-Nork (niK baso bat esne dut, haiek arrosak ikusi ditut, zuk euskara ikasten duzu), y así hasta cubrir todos los tipos de verbos. Bueno, la mayoría. Y con claras explicaciones en cada unidad, por supuesto. También habría que tratar algunos verbos sintéticos (joan, ibili, izan, etc.), pero cada cosa en su momento. Es cierto que los verbos son la parte más complicada (también la más interesante) de euskara y habría que trabajar los verbos y tal vez las declinaciones (que realmente no son tan complicadas) más que lo demás, pero en mi opinión poder practicarlos diariamente aquí en Duolingo sería una manera muy eficaz además de divertido de aprender a manejarlos bien.

    Y mientras que las formas verbales parecen interminables, son muy pocos los verbos que tendrás que aprender a conjugar, ya que la mayoría usan los verbos auxiliares izan y/o ukan. Y en general, al menos con respecto al euskara batua, el idioma es bastante regular, aunque no sé si los varios dialectos mantienen esa regularidad o no.


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/PolyglotCiro

    The like up number 100!


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Little_Snail

    Ez dut nire euskara hobetzeko espero! Zehazki aditzak, kostatzen zaizkit pixkat, baina gogo askoekin nabil!


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Hugoar663

    Eso sería increíble... De hecho estoy prácticamente seguro de que si alguien sabe hablar vasco todas las demás lenguas les pareceran las más fáciles del mundo, además de que le vasco es la lengua más antigua hablada hoy en la península ibérica, Y probablemente una de las lenguas más antiguas del mundo todavía habladas hoy en día...


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Eduardo_Dinis

    No para decepcionarte pero aprender vasco no es tan dificil porque el vocabulario ha sido muy influenciado por idiomas romances (latin, mozarabe, castellano, gascon) aunque poca gente lo sepa. La parte complicada es la construccion gramatical, los verbos, etc pero incluso sin dominarlos perfectamente se puede comunicar con nativos. La dificultad del vasco es comparable al hungaro porque comparten un sistema de agregacion de preposiciones similar al vasco, en mi opinion. Existen idiomas mucho mas complejos y me refiero a idiomas asiaticos.


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Saimdusan

    Hablo catalán, castellano, serbio y polaco con fluidez. Hace casi un año empecé a estudiar vasco y húngaro y confirmo que la dificultad del vasco cuando ya sabes hablar algunas lenguas romances (sobre todo el castellano) es comparable a la dificultad del húngaro si sabes lenguas eslavas (el húngaro ha estado muy influenciado por el eslavo).


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/crush

    Unilang-ko Saim zara, ezta? Pozten naiz zu hemen ikusteaz :)

    Ez dut uste euskarazko hiztegia zati zailena denik, aditz formak buruz ikastea zailena da niretzat.


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Hugo_ranech

    Si, siento decirte que lo que has dicho de los verbos es verdad, son muy difíciles. De hecho has escrito "ez dut uste euskarazko hiztegia zati zailena dela" En vez de decir "dela" en este caso tienes que sustituirlo por "denik".


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/crush

    Hola Hugo_ranech, muchísimas gracias por la ayuda :)


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/schehrazade

    Mucho, mucho animo!!! A ver si pronto podemos ver el curso en Duolingo! Yo no tengo ni idea de euskera, pero si puedo echar una mano de alguna forma para que el curso llegue a ver la luz, aquí estoy!


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/crush

    De momento lo mejor que se puede hacer es ayudarnos a correr la voz para que más gente se interese :)


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/PintxitosT

    Arratsalde on! Orain dela gutxi app honen berri eduki nuen eta frogatu ondoren euskarazko bertsioa egiten lagundu nahiko nuke.

    Recientemente tuve conocimiento de esta app y tras probarla querría contribuir con la versión para aprendizaje del euskara. Aparte de profesor de euskara soy filólogo vasco así que espero ser de ayuda

    Ondo ibili!

    Agur!


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/PauBofill

    Kaixo! Has hecho la petición en la incubadora? Ahí se pide si quieres crear un curso. Creo que DL busca gente como tú para crear cursos así. Siendo profesor i filólogo creo que puedes ser de gran ayuda! Gero arte!


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/crush

    Sí, eres justo el tipo de persona que Duo busca para liderar un curso! Hay varias personas bilingües que se han ofrecido para crear el curso, pero creo que Duo está esperando que venga una persona como tú para dirigir el curso. Si ni lo has hecho ya, puedes enviar tu solicitud en la incubadora.

    Eskerrik asko zure interesagatik!


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/lGatinl

    Buenisimo! Podes ofrecerte para un curso en esta página para colaborar! Estaría bueno que busques mas colegas para poder armar el curso. mil gracias!


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/fenikso77

    Sería genial, llevo tiempo queriéndolo aprender. Empecé con Ikasten pero estoy acostumbrado ya a Duolingo y sería perfecto poder aprenderlo con esta plataforma. ¡Espero que se consiga montar el curso!


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/crush

    Pues que yo sepa por el momento no se tienen noticias, pero seguiremos animando al equipo de duolingo para que lo añadan a la incubadora :) JoanesPlaz y yo hemos empezado a organizar nuestro propio curso, algo un poco más divertido (al menos eso se espera), tengo muchas ideas sobre cómo hacerlo pero a lo mejor mejor seria dividirlo en dos cursos distintos.

    De todos modos gracias por los ánimos :)


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/xavi_fr

    Me gustaría ayudaros a conseguir entrar en la incubadora, ya tenéis un equipo de voluntarios formado?


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/crush

    Hay varias personas que han hecho solicitudes, todos bilingües, la mayoría castellano-euskara pero creo que hay al menos cinco personas todavía más o menos activas aquí, puede que haya más pero no se han puesto en contacto con nosotrxs:
    anebz
    JoanesPlaz
    TxopiTxopi
    AitorUgart1/Golden_Owl (parece que ha cambiado su nombre de usuario)
    Lamia91
    Eneko399999

    Estas dos personas puede que hayan enviado solicitudes, pero no estoy segurx:
    Mirelur (profesora de euskara nativa)
    PintxitosT (profesor y filólogo de euskara)

    Yo también estoy dispuestx a ayudar con la creación del curso, pero no he enviado una solicitud puesto que mi nivel de euskara todavía deja mucho que desear.

    I moltíssimes gràcies pel teu suport, Xavi!


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/PauBofill

    Sembla que de gent interessado en fer el curs ja n'hi ha uns quants. Ara quin seria el problema? Que hi hagi prou gent interessada en el curs? Pel que veig ja n'hi ha força...


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/JoanesPlaz

    Bai badirudi jendek interesa baduela, eta gustatuko litzaidake eztabaida mahai bat sortzea ikasteko interesa duten eta irakasteko prest gaudenon artean, ikastaroari forma pixka bat ematen hasteko... Hala ere, ez dakit zein den euskara oraindik inkubatzailean ez egoteko arrazoia, izan liteke kurtsoa sortu nahi duten pertsonak adituak izan behar izatea, edo Duolingon oso aktibo aritu... Ez dakit egia esan.

    Si, parece que la gente está interesada, y me gustaría crear un grupo de debate entre los interesados en cursar el curso y los interesados en crearlo y enseñarlo, para así poder empezar a darle un poco de forma al asunto... Sin embargo, no se cual puede ser la razón para que el euskera no esté todavía en en incubador, puede ser que los creadores del curso tengan que ser expertos lingüisticos o ser muy activos en Duolingo... La verdad es que no sé...

    Moltes gràcies laguntzagatik!


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/txantxangorria

    Goazen lagunok!!! :D:D:D Bei Gure Hizkuntza! Aupa!


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/JoanesPlaz

    We have not received any messagge from DL yet, but we hope we'll soon be able to start building our course. Before starting it, I think we need to speak about how is this course going to be, we need to be in contact and we'll need both; people that is going to build the course (including me, hope so), but also, people that wants to learn or is learning Basque.

    Why people that's learning? It's another point of view, and it's the point of view of the people that is going to be learning Basque after building the course. So, all you, can help us building the course, showing us which aspects are the toughest ones to learn, or providing us some info we do not have.

    So, as said, it would be great just if you emailed me (not only the ones that are going to make the course, also people that is interested on the course) to provide ideas, point of views...

    Contact: joanes.plazaola@alumni.mondragon.edu


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/PauBofill

    Ni euskara ikasten dut, baina asko ez dakit oraindik, orduan gutxi egin ahalko naiz. Beharbada zerbaitan lagundu ahalko naiz. Maybe I could help in choosing which lessons would suit best for the course or something like this. I'm really looking forward to this course! Excuse my bad Euskara ;)


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/crush

    Nik ere euskara ikasten ari naiz. Neretzat aditzak parte zailena dira, asko daudelako. Kasuak ez dira oso zailak, baina nere aditz-taulak benetan luzeegiak dira!

    In the meantime, i'd love to work on a course outside of Duolingo as well, something a bit more interactive, perhaps an app of some sort or an audio course along the lines of the Language Transfer project. If you'd be interested in collaborating on something like that, please let me know!


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/mondschuppen

    I am currently using Colloquial Basque, and it's absolutely excellent since it comes with the free audio online on Blackwell Publishing's website for the Colloquial series. I also recently purchased the The Basque Language: A Practical Introduction, and the dictionary published by Nevada University press on Amazon secondhand, and I am absolutely hooked on the language. Let's hope that the course eventually comes in either English or Castilian!


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/crush

    "The Basque Language" is a great resource, i've added all the vocab from the book on Memrise in case you're interested. It's not complete by any means, but it covers a whole lot and is much more thorough than Colloquial Basque. I also recommend checking out the free online Ikasten course.


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/gizonaingeru

    Aingeru tambien lo desea, desde Euskadi


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/crush

    Kaixo, Aingeru! Euskalduna zara? Ikastaroarekin lagundu nahi baduzu eskaera bat bidali dezakezu inkubagailuan.

    Gracias por el apoyo :)


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/user_one

    Aquí otro futuro alumno y aunque mi nivel de euskera es muy bajo, contad conmigo si puedo ayudar de alguna forma para que el curso salga adelante.


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/crush

    Si puedes correr la voz para que más gente se interese, eso ya ayudaría un montón! Gracias por el apoyo, ojalá tengas la oportunidad de estudiar el euskara aquí muy pronto :)


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Eneko399999

    Kaixo denoi! Euskarazko ikastaroa sortzen lagundu nahi dut. Orain dela bi aste bidali nien eskaera formala, baina ez dut erantzunik jaso.


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/crush

    Mila esker! Denok zain gaude, oraingoz ez daukagu berririk. Berriren bat ematen badigute, esango dizut :)


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/JordiFaxon

    i'm currently learning basque and i would LOVE to try it out for a spin on duolingo


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/crush

    How are you studying? I'm currently working on a few things/tools for studying Basque in the meantime.

    Eta euskara, gustatzen zaizu?


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/JordiFaxon

    I'm using a memrise course, and 2 books: Iniciación al Euskera by ASSiMiL and Bakarka Euskera a Distancia


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/crush

    Ah, cool. The Assimil book is ok, if a bit hard. Unfortunately it's much shorter than other Assimil books and leaves out way too much important grammar. I've heard great things about the Bakarka course (assuming you're talking about the course by Juan Antonio Letamendia) but haven't used it myself. The book "The Basque Language: A Practical Introduction" is also really great, i enjoyed going through it. I still use it today as a sort of reference book as it's got a nice reference section at the end. And of course, the Ikasten.net course is a great (and free) resource.


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/crush

    Ez horregatik, espero dut zuri gustatzea, oso pozten nau besteek euskara ikasteak.


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/EmmaIriondo

    Basque is a great language that deserves to be learned rather than crushed between the popularity of Spanish and French


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/crush

    Of course it does :)


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/mondschuppen

    I am absolutely dying for this course to be in production. Alan R. King's courses are superb, but I'm craving the interaction that Duolingo's interface provides.


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/crush

    Definitely, a lot of people are waiting for this course :)


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Marigorri

    Is this still alive? Is someone still trying to make a Euskara course happen? I tried to learn Basque from a book, and from a Basque friend in Xiberoa (Soule, south of France) when I was there, between 2000 and 2004. It sort of stopped when I couldn't travel there any more. I was there in 2010 for only three days and now I just returned from a 5 day visit with a fresh desire (and some books) to learn Basque again. I know hardly more than a few words and phrases. It would be wonderful if there would be a Basque course on Duolingo, because Duolingo makes it so much easier to continue learning than just a book where I can't hear how it should sound and where there is no interaction.


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/crush

    Yeah, we're still pushing for it (and have been for a while). We haven't heard anything from the Duo staff in a long time, though. You should check out the free Ikasten.net course. If you're looking for any other materials to study Basque outside of Duolingo, i'd be happy to point you to some of my favorite resources.


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Marigorri

    I think I found the Ikasten.net course yesterday and what I have seen is much like the first book I bought 13 years ago (I never got past the 4th or 5th chapter back then). When I visited this summer there seemed to be many more books on Basque than there were back then. So I have some paper books to study from, but if you can point me to anything you think works well to study from that would be welcome. Just don't let it keep you from creating the Duolingo course because the great thing about Duolingo is that it helps you to learn the way you learned as a child, which seems to be working very well for me.


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/crush

    Right now we're just waiting for news from the Duolingo staff, there's not much we can do apart from continue pushing and promoting Basque on the forums and wait. One of the best books i know of is "The Basque Language: A Practical Introduction" by Alan R. King. It covers a ton of information and if you take your time with it it'll give you much more than a "practical introduction". The Assimil course is alright, as well, it's just too short to really be useful beyond the very basics. You can also search out Gorka's guide (in Spanish or English) which can be downloaded for free. It's pretty comprehensive but will still require a bit of work on your part to learn the material inside since a lot of it gets thrown at you at once in the later lessons.


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Marigorri

    OK, this is a reply to your more recent message, but that one doesn't have a reply button. Too many replies, I guess.

    Thank you for the anseo-link, that was indeed the course I worked with 10+ years ago. The Gorka course has a link to a course for Souletin Basque which makes me very happy because my love for Basque started there and it's where our Basque friends live. I haven't checked it out yet (I need to check out a lot now :) ) but it will help to get a grip on that local variety which I understand is rather different from the rest.

    I am Dutch, English is for me almost as easy as Dutch, I have had French in school and I manage to make myself understood when in France but it needs improvement. Spanish I started learning several times, I started again on Duolingo and am making progress now but it's not at the level of my French yet. So for learning Basque learning it from English is easiest, from French also works, from Spanish it would be hard (I'd probably be learning Spanish as well as Basque if I tried that).

    Thank you for all your answers to my questions :)


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Marigorri

    Wow, thanks. The Alan King book looks good, although I can't look inside on amazon. I didn't know there is an Assimil book for Basque. And Gorka, would that be Gorka Aulestia? I googled and found a dictionary and two books on Basque poetry, but not a guide to download. I found my old prints and book that I used before: I used a free course on anseo.free.fr but it doesn't seem to work any more (I get a 'forbidden' message now). The book I used is "Bakarka, methode d'apprentissage individuel de la langue Basque" by J.A. Letamendia. Obviously, that's in French. Looking at what I have it might be a good idea to simply start there, although English is easier for me to study from than French. But I want to improve my French anyway ;)

    By the way, and not really connected with my earlier question: have you ever heard the idea that Basque and Armenian might be related. My sister is rather fluent in Armenian and from the little I know of Basque I think the idea merely came up because they are both very old languages with no connection to the languages around them, we haven't found any proof yet. But Armenian is even less known in most of the world than Basque is, although it is spoken all over Armenia of course.


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/crush

    Gorka's course is available here:
    www.aprendereuskera.com/

    You can click on the "Course of Basque" link on the upper right for an English version if you'd prefer that. I started modernizing the English version of the course a bit (and fixing the grammar and adding some more explanations here and there) but ran into some issues with LibreOffice (it kept freezing every 20-30 minutes) and stopped about 6 lessons in. I could pass it on to you and if you find it useful i could continue working on it.

    The Assimil course is from a French/Spanish base. Le Basque unifié (initiation)/Iniciación al euskara.

    The Bakarka course is supposed to be very good as well, though i've never used it. It's also got a Spanish base, if Spanish is easier for you.

    Is this the online Basque course you were talking about?
    https://web.archive.org/web/20090203053206/http://anseo.free.fr/basque.html


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Marigorri

    And I started with the Gorka course. I'll probably be working on different courses alongside of each other as long as they cover similar subjects. Mila esker. (interesting: http://www1.euskadi.net/morris/ translates esker as thankfulness and ezker as left, but in Gorka (and some other places) mila ezker spelled with a 'z'.)


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/crush

    Gorka's course has a few spelling mistakes here and there (including in the Spanish). It should be eSker, but you'll often see it misspelled as ezker on forums online. And yeah, eZker(ra) is "left". I'll upload the English copy of the first few lessons i've got when i get the chance :)

    EDIT: Here it is. I could continue with the rest of the lessons if you find it useful :)


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Marigorri

    Obviously your translation is in much better English :) I think you combined the Spanish and the English version when you made it? At least in the first lesson, I didn't get through all of it. You put a lot of work in there, you must enjoy doing it! (Well I gues, if you want to make a Duolingo course, it must be something you enjoy doing.) I'll be working from these now, it may take me some time to work through all of 173 pages ;)


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/crush

    Ah, i missed your comment, yeah, i was combining the old English version and the updated Spanish version and added some explanations here and there where i thought it was necessary/useful. I'd love to finish it at some point, perhaps make it into some sort of mobile app as well.


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/E.K.Owaki

    For want of anything else to offer this project, have some lingots and my support.


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/crush

    Thanks for the support and for stopping by :)


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Readyforyou

    Ni prest nago laguntzeko,baina esan behar dut duela 2-3 urte ez dudala jendearekin hitz egiten,nik nagoen lekuan bakarrik gaztelera dakitelako,hau da bakarrik eskoletan erabiltzen dute.


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/crush

    Milesker, ez da problema! Eskaera bidali al duzu?


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Readyforyou

    Bai,atzo bidali nien eskaera,baina ere egin nuen duela bi aste eta ez dut izan berririk egingo duten ala ez


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/JoanesPlaz

    Lasai... Denbora dexente gabiltza erantzunaren zain... Ikusiko dugu entzunen bat jasotzen dugun... Animo!


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Readyforyou

    Nik ez dudana ulertzen da, geuk haien lana egiten badiegu zergatik ez dute geure eskaera onartzen?


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/JoanesPlaz

    Segur aski jende faltagatik ez da izango. Nik ikusi dudanaren arabera espainol hiztunentzat baino ingeles hiztunentzat sortzen dira ikastaro gehiago, eta eskaera egin dugunon artean Duolingon oso konstanteak ez garenak izango gara gehienak, beraz horri ere garrantzia emango dio Duolingok.

    Hala ere, Euskara irakasteko interneten dagoen ikastaro garrantzitsuenetako bat izatea ohore bat izan beharko litzateke Duolingorentzako, hizkuntza arloan Euskarak duen fama edukita...


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Jesus849123

    Hola, conozco algún profesor y filólogo Euskaldun le voy a proponer si quiere colaborar :)


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/crush

    Muchísimas gracias, si alguien se anima a colaborar por favor háznoslo saber! Intento mantener actualizada una lista de gente que ha enviado solicitudes a la incubadora :)


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Jesus849123

    Por supuesto :) ;) Ikusi arte. Agur!


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Jesus849123

    ¡Sigo intentándolo! I keep trying! :)


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Leralite

    I'd love to see Basque added to Duolingo. Too bad i don't speak it, otherwise i'd love to help. Best of luck!


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Jesus849123

    Me he comunicado con un técnico de Euskera del ayuntamiento de Arrasate y otro de Zarautz, espero contestación...


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Jesus849123

    El curso de Euskara de DL es gratis, a alguién le ha costado 48.231 euros al año :) aunqué no lo pagó de su bolsillo :) http://www.elmundo.es/elmundo/2012/02/16/paisvasco/1329388320.html


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/crush

    ¡Es una noticia maravillosa! Si hubiera una organización que se interesara, sería mucho más fácil convencer a Duolingo para que lo añadan a la incubadora. Mantennos avisadxs si tienes más noticias!


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Jesus849123

    ¿Cuántos colaboradores os salen en total?


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Jesus849123

    Hola segundo punto : Si hay gente que quiere colaborar, ¿Cómo les hacemos más atractiva, o cómo vendemos mejor a Duolingo, para qué entren a colaborar?


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Jesus849123

    María hablando euskera - Maria speaking Basque [Autodidakta] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LCRsgxWhldI


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Jesus849123

    Hola chicos, me he puesto en contacto con hiru.eus y me han agradecido la sugerencia y me ofrecen un curso de euskera online gratuito, que ya conociamos, osea, no dicen nada de la colaboración. Quizás no me hayan entendido o no tengan tiempo... yo les pedía colaboración, se agradece que te reporten a un curso gratis, pero eso no era lo que demandabamos. Como ejemplo os mando email enviado y contestación...


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Jesus849123

    Cada vez se van interesando más por el curso de DL esperemos que colaboren :)


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Jesus849123

    Y la contestación de ellos fué: Kaixo Jesús,

    Gracias por enviarnos tu sugerencia.

    Comentarte que en hiru.eus ponemos a disposición de cualquier persona que quiera aprender euskera (y disponga de equipo compatible y conexión a Internet), un curso de euskera online gratuito. Para acceder, solo es necesario crearse una cuenta de usuario en hiru.eus y rellenar un breve formulario. El formulario pide número de DNI pero es posible introducir el número de identificación nacional que corresponda a la persona. Es posible comenzar desde cero y alcanzar un nivel avanzado. Además, no hay fecha de inicio ni de fin, por lo que es posible estudiar a cualquier ritmo.

    Para cualquier otra consulta, no dudes en escribirnos. Atentamente,

    www.hiru.eus


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/crush

    Muchísimas gracias por tu esfuerzo, me alegra ver que hay un poco de vida en estas discusiones de nuevo, ojalá podamos convencer al equipo de Duolingo!


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Jesus849123

    I'll keep on trying :)


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Jesus849123

    Primer colaborador : El Servicio Municipal de Euskera De Bergara, Bergarako el responsable quiere colaborar con nosotros se llama "Estepan". le voy a mandar los links de DUO y de la incubadora. Que contento estoy :) ;)


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Jesus849123

    Gracias a todos :)


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/crush

    De momento creo que somos 11 (que se han puesto en contacto conmigo, al menos), posiblemente dos más pero no confirmaron si habían enviado la solicitud o no.


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Imagein

    Eskald dunat donat Basque!


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Jesus849123

    Localizar a este chico en el facebook por fa él nos puede ayudar :)
    Jose Miguel Ramirez Giraldo se llama mirar que bueno es, yo no tengo facebook

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y4B5rwVp6o8


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Jesus849123

    Localizado, buen muchacho :)


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Jesus849123

    A mi me salen 11 que había + 2 = 13 y seguimos buscando más colaboradores :)


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Jesus849123

    Euskaldun berri autodidakta Jose Miguel Ramirez Giraldo

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5TKPhTSkH88 :)


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Jesus849123

    Gracias a todos los que colaboran con nosotros de forma altruista, tenéis un mérito increible. :)


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/gruamaire

    I am from Ireland, and have no interest in learning Basque, but I wish luck to all my Basque comrades. Your people have stood the test of time and I hope you can keep your culture alive.


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Jesus849123

    Thanks, ( Eskerrik asko ) gruamaire :)


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/andres_orduna

    I'm in! Count with me! Please, make Basque real in Duolingo!


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Jesus849123

    Gracias, estoy pensando algo... he contactado con gente para que nos ayudasen, algunas veces el impedimento es que no tienen tiempo, o que no es remunerado, obvio. Se me ha ocurrido que podríamos reclutar a gente de asociaciones de jubilados o mayores.... ya que estos ya tienen su pensión y podrían si quieren dedicarnos tiempo y así se sentirían útiles ayudando aunque siempre han sido útiles nuestros mayores.... aceptamos ideas sobre esto.....


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/crush

    Creo que lo más importante es que sientan pasión por el idioma, por suerte así es el caso euskaldun askorekin. Aunque no se comprometan a crear el curso, creo que cualquier publicidad/artículo que ayude a hacer correr la voz que estamos intentando crear este curso es bueno. Si sale un poco más de estos foros a lo mejor podremos convencer al equipo de Duolingo que sí hay una verdadera demanda por el curso.


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Readyforyou

    Bueno parece que cuando vas a empezar el curso no puedes dejar el idioma como no especificado asi que podemos coger el sitio de español.


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Readyforyou

    Ya de paso podemos promocionarlo con esta cancion jaja (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IlC5lRAp35E).


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Readyforyou

    Bueno no estoy seguro pero creo que no se puede personalizar para ponerlo en euskera,aunque puede que en una opcion se pueda pero se necesita tener alumnos.


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Jesus849123

    De momento apunta a dos Andres Ortuna y a mí y si podemos utilizar el de español :-) Eskerrik infinitua :-) yo te traigo a mas pero te aviso no vas a dar abasto... hay mucha demanda....:-)


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Readyforyou

    Espera jesus que he preguntado por el tema en el foro de profesores (no soy profesor pero si que he estudiado toda mi vida en euskera) y parece ser que no me han entendido bien pero me han dado largas de que no se puede cambiar el curso,aun asi se lo he dicho mas simple haber si me pueden dar alguna respuesta mas convincente. Ya lo posteo por aqui sobre lo que me han dicho pero como sabras estos de duolingo no dejan que toqueteemos sus cursos jaja. Aun asi no corras mucho la voz hasta que se consiga que luego nos viene una avalancha de solicitudes jaja.


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Jesus849123

    jajaja vaya tela, desde la peli de los ocho apellidos, se apunta gente hasta de le los sitios mas insospechados....


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Readyforyou

    jajaja ya te digo,yo todavia estoy bastante sorprendido,pensaba que a poca gente le interesaria,pero bueno me parece bastante bien.


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Readyforyou

    Yo ya te digo estoy pensando en que si nos dicen que no se puede,pues igual hago un post para enseñar euskera,porque si nos estaremos asi unos meses y nadie podra aprender hasta que a duolingo le de por ponerlo. Eso si nos por donde empezaria lo de coger por cada tema de duolingo me parece bastante basico pero bueno me podeis ir ideas sobre como quereis aprender.


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Jesus849123

    Desde la ciudad del campeón Miguel Induraín nos ayudan amigos, rellenando solicitud en la incubadora en el insituto IESO Pedro de Atarrabia, :)


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Jesus849123

    Ya tenemos recursos Joanes preparó material https://www.duolingo.com/comment/13783730 :)


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/eGabox

    Hola, muy buena iniciativa el proponer este Nuevo Curso de Euskara para ampliar más los idiomas que podemos aprender con Duolingo, espero den pronta aceptación al Curso y puedan trabajar en ello sin problema para que luego todos puedan sumarse y aprender dicho idioma, saludos.


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Jesus849123

    Esperemos mi amigo :)


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/kevinultra

    Yes, I'd like a Basque course on Duolingo! Zorte on :)


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/ManuAlvarado22

    ¡Muchas gracias por esta iniciativa! Actualmente siento que me sería imposible aprender un nuevo idioma sin duolingo (Debido a las dificultades para viajar). Por lo que no he intentado aprender nada sobre el euskera, que de hecho me intimida muchísimo. Espero que se logre este propósito. Además, se que no solo hay hispanohablante interesados en aprender esta lengua, sino que recientemente vi un video sobre una chica (creo que hablante nativa de inglés) que ha estado aprendiendo el idioma por su cuenta. De la misma forma, hay un políglota (más bien entusiasta de las lenguas) que obtuvo un nivel C1 otorgado por la academia del euskera, y lo aprendió desde su tierra natal. Sería maravilloso contactar con el, estoy seguro de que aceptaría colaborar con el curso. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iwclXZSjR1o&t=224s


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/crush

    Gracias por tu interés! Jesus849123 recientemente se ha puesto en contacto con varias organizaciones y algunas han expresado interés en colaborar con nosotrxs para crear el curso, así que esperamos que así podremos dar un poco más de presión a Duolingo para que lo añadan.

    Y ya nos hemos puesto en contacto con el políglota del vídeo :)


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Jesus849123

    Bueno entre todos hacemos lo que podemos, hay que confiar, y la gente es muy agradecida y generosa. A todos los niveles jamás me imaginaba que iba a tener tan gran acogida :)

    Hay un gran interés entre los que queremos aprender y los que quieren enseñar. :)


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/gorrasta

    Egunon; Izena eman berri dut euskara kurtsoan laguntzeko, baina hemen irakurri dudanagatik, euskal filologoak edo euskara irakasleak behar dira, ezta? Ez dakit zenbat denbora edukiko nukeen, baina ahal bezain bat laguntzeko prest nago :) Ezagutzen dudan euskal filologo bati aipatu diot ea kolaboratu nahiko lukeen, baina ez dit erantzun. Nahiko lanpetuta ibiltzen da...

    Buenos días, Acabo de rellenar la solicitud para ayudar en el curso de euskara, pero por lo que he leído aquí, se necesitan filólogxs vascxs o profesorxs de euskara, ¿no? No sé cuánto tiempo tendría, pero estoy dispuestx a ayudar todo lo que pueda :) Se lo he comentado a unx filólogx vascx a ver si le gustaría colaborar, pero no me ha respondido. Suele andar bastante atareadx...


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Jesus849123

    Gracias nineu007, mejor dicho infinitas gracias por colaborar. La verdad, es que siendo bilingües y apasionados, vale. Si son filologos mejor obvio, pero ya tenemos varios filologos. en el proyecto. Estamos muy contentos por la gran acogida de este curso.


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Jesus849123

    Sí los de la incubadora se ponen en contacto contigo, si sales candidato :)


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/gorrasta

    (Eskerrikasko harreragatik! :) ) Ba gaitz erdi, lagunak ezin duela esan dit eta :) Nik ahal bezain bat lagundu nahi nuke; oso proiektu polita iruditzen zait. Eta euskarari lagunduko diolakoan nago, euskaldundu nahi dutenei plataforma erakargarri bat eskaintzen dielako :) Nola jakingo nuke ea proiektua martxan jarri den? Email bat bidaliko digute? Ondo ibili!

    (¡Gracias por la bienvenida! :) ) Pues menos mal, porque mi amigx me ha dicho que no puede :) Yo quisiera ayudar todo lo posible; me parece un proyecto muy bonito. Y creo que le ayudará al euskera, porque ofrece una plataforma atractiva a lxs que quieren euskaldunizarse :) ¿Cómo sabría si el proyecto se ha puesto en marcha? ¿Nos enviarán un email? ¡Un saludo!


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/crush

    Bai, prest daudenean kurtsoa egiten hasteko, gurekin jarriko dira harremanetan :)

    Sí, cuando estén listxs para empezar el curso, se pondrán en contacto con nosotrxs.


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Jesus849123

    Por cierto , nineu007 ¿Cómo supístes de nosotros? ;)


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/gorrasta

    Estudio Estudios Ingleses, y en una asignatura sobre las TIC nos hablaron de DL. Miré si había algo sobre el euskera por curiosidad y encontré esta discusión :)


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/crush

    Por cierto, ¿qué son las "TIC"?


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/gorrasta

    +crush Barkatu, orain arte ez naiz konturatu galdera hau egin zenidanik... :/

    Gracias Jesus por responder; no me había dado cuenta... :/


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/crush

    Ah, nolanahi ere, eskerrik asko erantzuteagatik :)


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Camilo-A2

    I would love to see Basque and other minoritary languages here. The Spanish speaking world has many such minoritary languages that need more L2 speakers.

    A mi también me encantaría ver eusquera y otros lenguajes minoritarios de Hispanoamérica acá.


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/crush

    Milesker :) Estamos haciendo lo que se pueda para que se realice el curso.


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Jesus849123

    Me gustaría ponerme en contacto con la gente de duolingo, con los empleados la mejor manera es decirles que queremos que nos dejen hacer el curso por estas vias @duolingo o facebook


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/crush

    Quieres decir por Twitter? La verdad es que no lo uso, creó una cuenta hace unos años para pedir que lo añadan, pero ahora parece que la han suspendido.

    Ah, la encontré justo ahora, mi nombre de usuario es crush_eu :)


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/crush

    Acabo de encontrar este sitio:
    http://www.unrelatoparacadarato.com/es/aprender-euskera-cuentos

    No sé si publicarán más cuentos, pero los dos que hay tienen una traducción al castellano y una grabación para que puedas también escuchar el cuento.


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/yildum

    Pues a mí me gustaría aprenderlo. Me encanta ver los idiomas, tan sólo por el gustazo de conocer nuevas palabras, y modos en que se organizan los mismos. Así que encantada. Saludos.


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/melisseche

    I want to learn Basque!!


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/crush

    If you want any help looking for resources to learn it, i'd be happy to share my favorites with you. I made a list of various resources here.


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Zevlag13

    Suerte con el curso! Por cierto, ¿el curso de vasco sería para hablantes de español o de inglés?


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/crush

    Lo más probable es que sea para hablantes de castellano, más tarde podríamos hacer un segundo curso para hablantes de inglés :)


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/SimoneDeVita

    I am waiting for this course


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/crush

    As am i, my friend, as am i. :)


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/beijoimplicado

    Learning Basque would be so, so cool! Having lived in Spain, I have always been fascinated by the Basque language. Despite being spoken in a country with such a long history of cultural (and lingual) mixing, Basque is not related to any other language on the planet! Crazy!!


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Ondotarro

    ¡Excelente! Ojalá lo tengan listo pronto.


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/crush

    Gracias, seguimos esperando, pero algún día será! Milesker zure elkartasunagatik :)


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Readyforyou

    Lo he vuelto a pedir haber si esta vez hacen algo que despues de dos años esperando yo creo que ya es hora


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/crush

    Eskerrik asko, Readyforyou!


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Jesus849123

    Bai ziur asko :)


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Hugo_ranech

    Nik euskeraz hitz egiten dut baita ere. Hizkuntza honetako ikastaroa sortzeko ideia izan nuen zuk bezala, beraz, "duolingori galdetu nion" ea posible bazen. Ez nuen ezer jaso haien partez, ez dut uste ideia gustoko duten/zuten.

    Yo también hablo euskera. Tuve la misma idea que tú al querer crear un curso de euskera, así que, le "pregunté a duolingo" a ver si era posible. No recibí nada por parte de duolingo, no creo que les haya gustado/les guste la idea.


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Jesus849123

    Sí les gusta la idea, creeme tú rellena la solicitud de la incubadora :)


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Hugo_ranech

    Bai, egin dut jada. Berriro Si, ya lo he hecho. Otra vez


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/crush

    Mila esker, Hugo_ranech! No es que no les guste, es simplemente que por lo general no se ponen en contacto hasta que ya hayan decidido crear el curso. Yo creo que tenemos suficientes voluntarixs, pero habrá muchos idiomas con una situación similar a la nuestra, así que sólo podemos esperar nuestro turno...

    Pero gracias por rellenar la solicitud, cuantxs más voluntarixs somos mejor!


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Hugo_ranech

    Itzaron dezagun apur bat, besterik ez.


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/crush

    Urte batzuetaz ja itxaron dugu, baina itxaropena izatea behar dugu! Egunen batean ikastaroa ikusiko dugu, seguru :)


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Hugo_ranech

    Jo ta ke ikastaroa sortu arte!!!


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/DerGoldmann

    Congrats @crush on becoming a contributor to the Chinese for English speakers course! Now that you are part of the incubator community, do you have any word on whether a Basque course is in the works?


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Readyforyou

    I was send a petition to duolingo so,we need to wait.


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/crush

    Thanks DerGoldmann! I've checked and at least for now haven't seen any indications that there's anything in the works for Basque, but if i find anything out i'll let everyone know!


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/BastilleCreole

    ¡Apoyo la causa para hablantes de español!


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/crush

    Mila esker, BastilleCreole!


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Srvper

    Muchos queriendo aprender y varios dispuestos a colaborar para hacer realidad el curso. ¿Habrá que hacer una serie épica con dragones para que lo tomen en cuenta?


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Hugo_ranech

    En realidad es como tú has dicho. Somos muchos dispuestos a crear el curso. Además hay muchas personas tanto angloparlantes como hispanoparlantes que están deseando aprender o bien que están interesados en el idioma. Lo único que nos haría falta es la aprobación de duolingo, nada más.


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/crush

    Esperemos que por fin lo añadan a la incubadora! A lo mejor este año no, pero tal vez en el 2018.


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Vikqueen

    I may be spending half a year in the Basque Country next year and I would be so happy if I could learn this language to speak to some of the locals.


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/crush

    Try picking up the book "The Basque Language" by Alan R. King. There are also a few places online to learn it for free, the biggest/most complete place is probably ikasten.net. And if you've got any questions, feel free to ask!


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/67Jeronimo

    Thank you for the suggestion. I am going to the Basque Country this summer and so I put this book on my Christmas list.


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/crush

    Did you end up getting it? :)


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Hugo_ranech

    Wait a second, entonces el euskera no es tu lengua materna?


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/crush

    Ez, oraindik ikasten ari naiz.


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Goofdoggo

    And Bagoaz app, too. It is very useful to learn Basque.


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Marigorri

    Don't worry, in Spanish Basque Country everybody will speak Spanish and in French Basque Country they will speak French. Many hardly speak Basque themselves. Those that do of course are very pleased when you speak Basque even if it's just a few words!


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Simon_Lindberg

    Yes! This would be awesome!


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/RandomUserGr

    Hello, can somebody translate the following phrase in Basque for me please? Thank you in advance :)

    "Athletic, please sign me up. I'm a Basque in my soul".


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Hugo_ranech

    Athletic, mezedez, inskriba nazazu. Euskalduna baita nire bihotza.


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/AdrinOruet

    I'd like totake partin this course's creation. I sent a request some months ago,but I'm not receiving any reply. Could anyone explain me how does this exactly work?


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/crush

    We're not going to receive any feedback until Duolingo decides to actually create the course. In the meantime, however, we've begun creating the outline for a course and started filling in the grammar notes and sentences and could use some advanced/native speakers to help check things over. We've been discussing it a bit in our Discord group.

    Lagundu nahi baduzu taldean sar zaitezke gurekin ikastaroari buruz hitz egiteko, gero ikastaroa kaleratuko dugu hemen Duolingon :)


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/ibonelopez

    nire laguntza behar baduzue hemen nago!


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Jesus849123

    keep going! Hang in there! ;)


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/crush

    Kaixo! Gure Discordeko taldetik pasatu nahi baduzu beharbada hor ikastaroari buruz hitz egin dezakegu, hemen mezuak aurkitzea nahiko zaila da eta. Mila esker zure interesagatik!


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/KhuChunSiang

    Euskera independent, a new and independent nation!Everyone born to be free.


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Jesus849123

    Kaixo :)

    Estoy pensando, que quizás sería bueno para los que seaís de Euskadi o Navarra, organizar allí un evento en Duolingo events, para conocerse en plan KDD, en un sitio, o en un local y allí hablar sobre el curso, su desarrollo, su difusión.

    Duolingo events es algo muy nuevo...

    No se si se podrán crear eventos en idiomas que no están todavía en Duolingo... sería cuestión de probar , rellenando un escueto formulario

    https://events.duolingo.com/

    https://events.duolingo.com/host/

    Agur bero bat :)


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/LauraDeBenito7

    Kaixo, necesito aprender Euskera quiero aprender Euskera. Gora Duolingo aupa!!!!!!


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Ondotarro

    Si lo van a abrir, que lo abran en Español. ¿Por qué? Porque hay sobrado préstamo lingüístico del Euskera al Español y viceversa, inclusive.

    Abajo he leído peticiones de abrirlo en idioma inglés, puesto que no leen o saben Español. No obstante, ¿acaso no cuentan ya con el recurso para aprender Español desde inglés?

    Francamente, dudo que se aprehenda la esencia léxica del Euskara desde el inglés, a pesar de contar este último con vocablos latinos y griegos. En fin, es sólo una observación.


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/crush

    No creo que el euskera sea más difícil para hablantes del inglés, la mejor razón para hacer el curso desde el castellano es que sería mucho más fácil encontrar gente calificada para crearlo pues la mayoría de los euskaldunak en el hegoalde son bilingües. Creo que nuestra mejor esperanza es hacerlo desde el castellano, pero estaría contentx sea cual sea el idioma, con tal de tener el euskera en la incubadora ;)


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Ondotarro

    En cualquiera de los dos me da igual, pero ¡que lo abran ya! :D


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Jesus849123

    Eso esperamos, mi amigo :)

    Gracias a : Iñaki Martínez de Luna, Garbiñe Iztueta Goizueta, Kike Amonarriz, Mikel Irizar, Richard Bradley , Oskar de Goitia, Jon Sarasua, Jesús Ángel Sánchez, Beterri Elkarteak , Euskarabila Basauriko Euskaldunon Elkartea, Servicio de Euskera de Alava, Centro Vasco Eusko Alkartasuna de S. Paulo. ( Brasil), Elisabet Etxegaray ( Argentina), Osasungoa euskalduntzeko erakundea, María Cecilia Cenóz Bargardi (Argentina), Centro basko azuleño gure txokoa ( Argentina), Olatz Olaso Garitano , Gure Txoko Basque Club Sydney (Australia), Bruselako Euskal Etxea ( Bélgica ), Centro Vasco de València, euskaltzaleok Euskal Etxea, Juanan Compañón "Konpa", Asunción-eko Euskal Etxea ( Paraguay), Anne Marie Chiramberro (USA), Centro Vasco-Euskal Etxea Asociación Civil ( México ), Jule Goikoetxea, Euskal Etxea de Comodoro Rivadavia, ( Argentina ) ,Centro Basko Euzko Etxea (Argentina ), Oihaneder Euskararen Etxea, El servicio de Euskera Servicio de Euskera del Valle de Aranguren, El Servicio de Euskera del Ayuntamiento de Barañáin, Servicio de Euskera de Elorrio, Servicio Municipal de Euskera de Etxebarri , Servicio de Euskera del Ayuntamiento de Berriozar, Servicio Municipal de Euskera de Legazpi , Servicio de Euskera Municipal de Sestao ( Bizkaia ), Unión Baska "Euzko Alkartasuna" ( Argentina ), Patxi Saez Beloki, del Servicio de Euskera municipal de Azpeitia , José Juan Beristain, Departamento de Euskera del Ayuntamiento de Oiartzun, Servicio de Euskera municipal de Esteribar ( Navarra ), Servicio de Euskera del Ayuntamiento de Cendea de Olza , Servicio de Euskera municipal de Orio, Servicio de Euskera municipal de Zumarraga, Servicio municipal de Euskera de Eskoriatza (Gipuzkoa), Servicio de Euskera municipal de Ondarroa, , Servicio de Euskera municipal de Maruri-Jatabe, Ayto. Zigoitia, Bob Herrschaf / Basque Book Reviews for English speakers blog ( USA ), Servicio de Euskara de Berrioplano/Berriobeiti, Maite Darceles, Estibalitz Ezkerra Vegas, Jon Arretxe, Ikastolen Elkartea, Etxalarko Kultur Etxea, Xabier Irujo ( Venezuela - USA ), Servicio de Euskera municipal de Bermeo, Yolanda Olasagarre, Juan José Álvarez Rubio, Gorka Espiau, Joseba Zulaika ( EH-USA ), Adrián Orueta Ayuela, Miren Basurto, Andoni Barreña, Nafarroako Iparraldeko Euskara Mankomunitatea, Ander Bolibar Zabala, Daniela Rios ( Chile -Txile ) Miren Basurto ( EIBZ ) Yolanda Olasagarre ( EIBZ ), Ana Alberro Goñi, Michael Nock ( AEB-USA-CHINA), Martin Lizeaga Rika (AEB-USA ) Miren Basurto ( EIBZ ) Yolanda Olasagarre ( EIBZ ), Ana Alberro, Eduardo Aldasoro Lecea, Mariano García Martín, Exequiel Trujillo ( Chile -Txile ), Huntza , El Instituto Vasco Etxepare, Servicio de Euskera de Ortuella, Germán Alberto Dousdebés Chía ,Kepa ODRIOZOLA, Maria de los angeles caballero valdes, Raquel Diaz, Felicitas Andermann, Jasone Zubillaga Ugarte, AMAYA GARCIA, Mariaje Izco Rezusta, Alberto Pérez Martínez, Francisco Javier Sánchez Iglesias, M. IRATXE ALBA, Agus Carazo, pere garcia, Laura Ventura, JoLynn Wright, Núria Segismundo, Kristel Enriquez, Melisa Gonzalbo, María Soledad Ciganda Argain, Maria begoña tisera echeverria, Loli Alonso Beorlegui, Adefesio Bfjsis, Eduardo Igea,
    Ivan Stkill,
    Heledd ap Gwynfor, Wikitongues y muchos más que se me han olvidado, (disculpadme) por el apoyo prestado :) ;)


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/AgustinCar9

    Seguimos igual. Sin curso.


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/gorka.sill

    con tanto apoyo, y la existencia de gente dispuesta a trabajar en la realizacion del curso, crees que puede ser que duolingo no de via libre por razones politicas?


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/ElijahOliv

    de que vale tanto apoyo si va a cumplir 3 años o más y hasta ahora nada de euskera.... y duolingo ni siquiera ha contestado si será posible o no.... empezó a perder esperanzas de que un dia tenga euskera en duolingo


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/crush

    Hay varios idiomas con campañas de varios años, como el finés. No sé qué más podemos hacer aparte de seguir mostrando nuestro apoyo al euskera y haciéndoles ver que hay un gran interés por el euskera.


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/67Jeronimo

    También me pregunté por el ángulo político, aunque parece que la misma consideración se aplicaría al catalán, no?


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/AgustinCar9

    ¿Iniciamos una campaña? Se puede empezar una recogida de firmas (change.org), fijar un hastag como: #DuolingoEuskera Todos los que firmen podrian seguir las noticias que se vayan publicando y le dariamos relevancia. Si lo publicamos en varias redes sociales.... la cosa esta hecha. Alguna imagen de Duolingo con la Ikurriña.... ¿Como lo veis?


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/gorka.sill

    es cierto, aunque yo entiendo que el catalan es mas facil de estructurar en un curso, y tiene mas hablantes.


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/LongHenry

    Remember you need to have lots of upvotes on the request before they will consider adding it. About 800-1000 upvotes will go a long way to convincing the admins.


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/crush

    A few months ago (or maybe late last year?) we had around 4-500 votes, it's easy enough to spam votes that i don't think it really matters that much. Especially when you see how many comments in support there are here. I imagine we aren't the only language that got hit by some negative vote spam attack (or Duolingo just reset the votes for older topics).


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/SADOTFELIP

    Me parece buena idea, cuenta conmigo


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/SADOTFELIP

    Seem me a good idea, count on me.


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Sartre34

    Hey, I really hope it happens. I want to learn Basque since a very long time and this would be a great opportunity.

    Che, posta que espero que esto ocurra. Quiero aprender vasco desde hace bastante y ésta sería una gran oportunidad.


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/JamesBarry588568

    Yess please, I am new to this site and Basque would be very helpful as I am moving there next year. Even just to get the basic vocab and grammar down would be excellent


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Basajuana

    As Jesus and others have suggested, try ikasten.net...it''s really more Spanish-Basque, so try to keep up with your Spanish. I had some problems just signing in recently, but that was resolved. It's not as user friendly as Duolingo, but hopefully, you'll get your wish.


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/cameron.toms

    I have been using the free course on hiru.eus (which is actually very good) but would definitely like to see Basque on Duolingo!


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Bea707

    I would love to have Euskera here in Duolingo. Please consider adding this language. Thank you!


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/KamyrnMich

    I am Basque but I don't know the language or much about the culture.


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Jesus849123

    RT to show your support for my New Campaign for #Basque #Euskera #Euskara to be added to @Duolingo RT para mostrar tu apoyo a mi Nueva Campaña para que se añada el euskera en Duolingo :) https://twitter.com/Jesu849123/status/1045027683493662720


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/ZoeC.Kirk

    I’ve tried learning Basque, but had a little trouble wrapping my head around the phonetics. Maybe something akin to the portion of your Russian course in which you learn a word starting with every letter of the alphabet would be helpful in that regard?


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/GulliverBM

    The Welsh language developping team had built a Facebook group so they could contact more people into applying for the course creation on Incubator. Perhaps it may help you folks to find more Basque natives in order to make this a reality.

    Basque is a fascinating language, and I sincerely hope you people achieve what you are looking for. Creating a Facebook group to unite future learners and possible contributors to the course might help a lot, I think.


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/MariaLuiza642263

    Eu adoraria estudar basco noDuolingo


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/StephenMorgan0

    I've actually been thinking about also starting to learn Basque on Duolingo, but hadn't researched it yet. I'm shocked to find out it's not available. They should definitely include it!


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/eduardo648379

    Lagundu nahi nuke! Nire ama euskara da (Bilbon jaio zen) horregatik, laguntza ohore bat izango litzateke


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/LeylaEcce

    How much lingots must I give to make Basque happen in duolingo?


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Nines7804

    De esto ya hace más de 3 años Por qué no se crea el curso?


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/RickBradleyUSA

    Lo siento, mi español no es muy bueno, pero hemos creado un borrador de curso. Sorry my Spanish isn't very good, but we have created a draft course. It needs work, but would be a basis for a course, if Duolingo would ever let Basque into the incubator. https://forum.duolingo.com/comment/26622081 https://drive.google.com/open?id=1mALUcXonuNhnv2X1MjERW8gFQiU2dLq0


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Delorme.

    Imanol, our idol !


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Basauri1

    I hope this is still a possibility!! My name derives from the Basque region in Spain and some of my family members speak it. Would love to take some courses!


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Jesus849123

    Myra Awodey y Luis von Ahn son favorables a los cursos de Euskera, si no está todavía será por algún motivo técnico.

    Myra Awodey and Luis von Ahn are favorable to the courses of Euskera, if it is not yet it will be for some technical reason.


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/AgustinCar9

    Mas de 200 firmas en apenas 5 dias para que Duolingo habra el curso de Euskera. Ayudemos entre todos a extender esta petición atraves de nuestras redes sociales: https://www.change.org/p/press-duolingo-com-curso-de-duolingo-en-euskera

    Lortuko dugu


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/sernateresa

    I am supporting this 100%! Basque needs to be added as soon as possible! I mean, we have Catalan. It is time for Basque to be added. How exciting that this is being considered!


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Enrique75691

    Claro que si. Aurrera


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/odeigorri

    Goazen ba, danon artean gitxi gitxika lortuko dogu. Ni prest nago laguntzeko.


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/crush

    Primeran! Eskaera bat jada bidali duzu?


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Foblin

    ¡Sería genial que hubiera un curso de euskera en Duolingo! / Basque on Duolingo! That'd be read!


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/JesusFi

    I'd love an Euskera course on Duolingo!!


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/JackRiddle7

    Are there still efforts in place for Basque?


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Euskera11

    AUPAAAAAAAAAAAAAA


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Euskera11

    I WILL GIVE ALL MY LINGOTS TO THIS


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/LeylaEcce

    I'm gonna give my lingots to this too


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Max_Matthews

    lo requiera mas votas para les aceptarlo a curso > it needs more upvotes to be considered


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Foblin

    I don't think so. Probably it only needs more volunteers to create the course.


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/RickBradleyUSA

    There have been a lot of volunteers and we have a draft course, (it needs work but could serve as a strawman for a course, see link to letter at the top of this discussion) it just seems that Duolingo doesn't think Basque is all that important.


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Foblin

    Yes, you're right. I wasn't aware of that. Thanks! That's saaad, by the way. :(


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/AmazeBalls8

    i would be quite excited to learn a Vasconic langauge


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Mafaldaenlondres

    Como puedo votar por el curso?


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Jesus849123

    Hola Mafaldaenlondres, bienvenida :) Bueno en el primer comentario que ha realizado el compañero Crush, el comentario finaliza con "Vamos, ¡empecemos ya!": Debajo de este comentario hay un numerito "199" con un triangulito hacia arriba "^" debes de darle ahí y verás que se convierte en 200 por ejemplo. Así puedes hacer con todos y cada uno de los comentarios que te gusten. Esto es un voto positivo a más votos positivos mejor para aceptar el curso.


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/MB7783

    Apoyo por completo el curso de Vasco para hablantes de español ("Vaco" es de hecho el nombre de ese idioma en español, Euskera es el nombre en el propio idioma), otra cosa: Escribe bien joder, esas "X" en los plurales da mucho que pensar sobre las traducciones que podrían tener las oraciones si este curso se realizara (que no dudo que se vaya a realizar en algún momento), pero bueno entiendes mi punto, si quisiéramos hablar de forma "inclusiva" aprendamos asturiano y listo, problema resuelto


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Andolin1

    Que nos oigan de una vez!


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Jesus849123

    Kaixo:) arrakasta handia izan genuen gure aurreko argitalpenarekin, Duolingo foroaren argitalpenean 'Up Vote' baiezko botoak sustatuz. 400 boto lor baditzakegu, orduan euskarak aukera ona du inkubagailuaren programan onartua izateko. Mesedez, lagundu, eskerrik asko:)

    https://forum.duolingo.com/comment/7674974


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Goofdoggo

    Soy peruano pero soy de orígenes catalanes por parte de padre (por lo tanto estudio catalán y vivo en España), pero soy de orígenes vascos y navarros por parte de madre, y me haría una gran ilusión aprender vasco con duolingo, ya que es muy útil. He probado con la aplicación Bagoaz y no me resulta muy efectiva. Que se haga lo antes posible. Animatu mutilak!!!!!!!!!!!!!


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/DDN750175

    As soon as it is available, i ll start learning it.


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Nooodlez

    I would most definitely learn basque! I know very little and would love to learn more


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/GLawsonDuck

    A este momento , aprendo Español solo para mejor comprende los materiales de Euskera en Español!


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Jesus849123

    Muy bien el español es una lengua maravillosa :)


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Basajuana

    Arranopola! Hizkunta horiek guztiekin beste burua hazi beharko duzu! Gora euskara! Viva español y Valladolid!


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/android.alex

    +1 hope to learn Euskara (Basque) at Duolingo from Spanish or English speakers! Thanks a lot! Nire euskara maila basikoa da, ikasle naiz. Mila esker!


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Stacie698488

    Let’s make Euskara happen!!


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/GoodMatthew19

    Estoy de acuerdo de que un curso de euskera en Duolingo sería una idea muy buena. Este idioma no es hablado por muchas personas en el mundo, pero valería la pena aprender. También la cultura euskera ha contribuido mucho a las culturas de España y Francia. Espero que los administradores de Duolingo consideren seriosamente crear un curso de Basque, para hablantes de español, francés, y/o inglés.


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/bonbayel

    Yes, I'd love to try Basque!


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/AnjaliDevi5

    Yo voto para Euskara para hispanohablantes.


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/MauryaArora2006

    Let's Learn Basque language! I will be there for you;)


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/IrisIruna

    Espero que salga adelante. Tuve cuenta hace tiempo y la borré, y me volví a hacer solo para ver si habían puesto ya euskera... A ver si nos escuchan, o si alguien conoce alguna forma de hacer presión.


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/AlexChapma202780

    i smash that add button so fast


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/GoodMatthew19

    Basque is an intriguing language connected to a very intriguing culture. Although surrounded by the Spanish and the French, Basque people have a distinct identity that cannot be ignored.


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Elena244545

    He probado el Discord server y ha caducado o algo


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Jesus849123

    Gracias a tod@s, por lograr que esto siga vivo. ☺


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/lechiffre42

    I would love to learn Basque. Let's see this happen.


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Readyforyou

    Mother of mine, how many languages do you have left to learn in duolingo?


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/AlanCampot

    I found this topic hoping someone had proposed it already. Any official word on this?


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Readyforyou

    They haven't said or done anything yet


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/IrisIruna

    Buenas! Hi! Kaixo!

    Until Duolingo says anything about euskara in the app, the people from Clozemaster have already got it into their app. It's not as great as Duolingo, but at least it's something...

    Mientras los de Duolingo ni nos contestan sobre añadir euskera, la gente de Clozemaster ya lo han añadido a su aplicación. No es tan genial como Duolingo, pero al menos es algo...

    https://www.clozemaster.com/languages/learn-basque-online


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/LindaParki3

    Barcelona is my favourite city in Europe! I would love the chance to learn some Basque - our best visits have been away from the tourist spots and living & eating as the locals do, I would definitely learn before our next trip. (I also love "different" languages, have learned so much from learning Japanese and British Sign Language.)


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Bea707

    I hate to disappoint you LindaParki3 but if you love Barcelona try to learn Catalan instead :)


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/adinahc

    Yes please!!!


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/BrendaGtz

    Good suggestion! I want to learn Euskara! I have Basque ancestry and I think it would be a good experience to go there and learn a bit of Basque before I visit there. Beautiful language and culture~ ^^


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/ale87_

    Hola a todo el mundo! Lo primero, gracias a crush y a toda persona que haya colaborado desde que esto empezó!

    Llevo años queriendo aprender euskera y me he decidido a que deje de ser una intención. Ya me faltan horas en el día y no sé cómo voy a hacerlo, pero aunque sea muy poco a poco, quiero ponerme a ello. Tengo una base muy muy mínima de un año que viví en Vitoria-Gasteiz, así que espero que eso me haga un poco más fácil el comienzo... aunque sea un poquito de nada!

    Ante la ausencia de respuesta de la parte de duolingo por el momento, he ido haciéndome una "chuletilla" con las diferentes webs, métodos, etc. que he ido encontrando (mayormente aquí). Algunos ya los he ojeado un poco, y otros simplemente en la lista, pero bueno, los comparto aquí por si sirve a alguien tenerlos recopilados, o por si tenéis una opinión sobre ellos. No creo que use todos, aunque no está mal tenerlos a mano. La experiencia me ha demostrado que limitarse a un único método puede ser negativo, pero tener 300 también: no sabes por cuál seguir, y terminas abandonando agobiado (al menos, a mí me ha pasado).

    Ikasten.net - curso online.

    https://drive.google.com/file/d/1mALUcXonuNhnv2X1MjERW8gFQiU2dLq0/view - Si he entendido bien, es un borrador de lo que podría ser el curso duolingo, y por lo tanto tiene algunos fallos, no? https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1GZQ48pCqc1xqi_l-KL1c4wEuwkoG-Tw0K_ZVkwpNYgk/edit#gid=0 - listado de gramática en orden de dificultad, una pequeña guía de progresión, no?

    https://discord.com/invite/eUVkNEq - discord de este grupo. Me meteré a ver qué se cuece!

    http://www.aprendereuskera.com/ - web con muchos links y curso en sí mismo. Eso sí, el curso lo he encontrado en inglés y francés, pero no en castellano, no lo hay o es que no lo encuentro? No me suponen un problema ni el inglés ni el francés, pero me resulta más sencillo desde mi lengua materna.

    aek. Veo que tiene sección autoaprendizaje, pero lo veo más enfocado al presencial :( (que pongo carita triste pero oye, genial para el que pueda!)

    https://sorginatxirulina.eus/es/cuentos/ - en castellano, euskera, y con audio. Bien!

    "The Basque Language" by Alan R. King. - no lo conozco pero he visto que es bastante recomendado, a ver si le puedo echar un ojo.

    Y luego conozco también BAKARKA y otro método que me pasaron en Vitoria pero cuyo nombre no recuerdo así que... a ver si desempolvando cajas lo encuentro (aunque me temo que está en mi casa familiar, así que no lo veré hasta dentro de un año ^^U).

    Y por último, echaré un ojo a eso de clozemaster que han compartido hace unos días.

    Alguna otra web, app, etc. a la que debiera echar un ojo?

    En fin, que eso, a ver si consigo ponerme en serio y seguir motivado y voy avanzando. Y por favor, señores de Duolingo, hágannos caso!! jaja

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