Why can you use "içer" instead of "içerler" here? Going by wiktionary conjugation tables - https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/i%C3%A7mek - it should be "içerler".
Is the table wrong, or can you always use the 3rd person singular form instead of the 3rd person plural form (possibly in formal / informal settings), or is it just a special thing for this verb?
You can use both. If you use "içerler" you can omit "onlar". If you really want to know the specifics, it is "içer" when they do the action together, and "içerler" when everybody does it on their own - but that's just a grammar rule nobody thinks about when they speak.
Cool! Can you use "içer" for other persons too, if you include the personal pronoun? Or does it only work for the 3rd person?
So if one were writing formally, one would use içer here because each person is (presumably) drinking from his own cup, no?
I read in another lesson, that icerler can be used only with humans. So we can't emphasize that, say, five cats do an action each on its own, can we?
this is in fact a grammatical detail that nobody cares about in practice
If the subject is there, you can say "içer" or "içerler". If it's not, you have to say "içerler" to make the subject known. Everything else is useless trivia even for native speakers.
Merhaba. "Siz yersiniz, siz içersiniz" - it's write? Or "sizler yersiz, sizler içersiz"? Tesşekkürler, hoşça kalın.
No you can not.
The rule is you can omit the subject but you can not omit the suffix. Exception: You can omit one of them (not both) for "Onlar"
Please can someone explain to me why it is " icer" and not "icerler" . I read the comments but I didn't undertand why
If you have a plural subject specifically stated, the -ler on the end of the verb is optional (you already know the sentence is plural because of the subject).
However, if you drop "onlar" you must include it to get the plural meaning into the sentence :)
So what about the reverse? Would it be correct to say "Onlar su içerler"?
The "l" is not audible - is this how you say it (with a silent or not stressed sound)
I hear it, and it sounds fine. it is there but maybe not so much stressed.
Is there progressive assimiliation from the <n> to the <l> of <onlar>? It sounds like it, and it also sounds like gemination results. Is this a quirk or an intended feature of the TTS? If intended, is it a general rule of the language?
I personally hear no such thing in the TTS, although it could be slightly present. There is no such rule in Turkish and this is definitely not true in spoken language. I wouldn't rely on the TTS too much to learn pronunciation. :)
onlar means they, there is nothing to describe about it, it is a word :)
Not that I heard something like this but maybe 'o' comes from 3rd person subject pronoun, -lar is plural suffix and 'n' is for linking them (?)
I'm hearing omar not onlar...is this the right pronunciation or I'm hearing it wrong?
Hey arkadashs, translate me "you(many) drink and eat". "Siz içersiniz ve yersiniz"? Thanks.
I think the answer you are looking for is "içersiniz," but I am not positive about what you were asking. :)
Because the verb always comes at the end of the sentence in written Turkish (spoken Turkish allows for some flexibility).
Why isn't ONLAR SUYU IÇER correct? The Accusative case should be used here!
It is correct but different meaning. "Onlar su içer" means "They drink water". "Onlar suyu içer" means "They drink the water".
I think we can simply just say .. u can deal with (onlar) as if it was (o) singular 3rd person pronoun ... meaning that u can say ( onlar içerler ) or u can say ( onlar içer ) .
So for this I accidently said I cant listen now but I can it was a misclick now its not giving me any listening stuff, any idea how to fix this?
RULES İN PRESENT TENSE INTURKİSH
We use ~r ~ar ~er ~ır ~ir in present tense with verbs.
Oku(mak): To read OKU~R He/she reads.
Aç(mak): To open AÇ~AR He opens.
Kes(mek): To cut KES~ER She cuts.
Kapat(mak) To close KAPAT~IR She closes.
Bil(mek) To know BİL~İR He knows.
I don't have the character set to do this correctly. It insists on the c with the bottom bit. I don't have it
So add the Turkish keyboard to your device's settings. How do you want to learn a language without being able to write in it?
I'm still not used to this order so i always end up ordering them in english same as turkish :'((