So I guess gazeteleri is a combination of gazete + plural suffix + accusative suffix?
Maybe an obvious question, but do the suffixes always come in the same order? So as in this case it will always be +plural+acc? It makes sense so, like in English if we're creating a word (waste-less-ness?) the suffixes always come in the same order. Just curious.
Yes, you do as the second "the" makes the word "newspapers" into accusative case. The Turkish sentence is "köpekler gazeteleri okur". The -i at the end of "gazeteler" indicates accusative case.
Okay, thanks! I just went along with it as the exercises moved along, but I appreciate the confirmation. After working on it a bit I think I get it better now!
I'm glad to hear you understand it better. It takes a little while, doesn't it? :)
Can someone give more details about when to use plural and when not to? I also thought that this should be "kopekler gazete okur."
I think that "kopekler gazete okur" refers to reading newspapers in general (class, non-specific), whereas "kopekler gazeteleri okur" refers to readings a particular set of newspapers (a definite set).
Oh goodness. I'm not great with languages, but I'm going to keep working on this! Thanks.
Keep up the good work. :) It just takes work and time to become proficient with any language.
Question about the agreement between subject and verb. If the subject is plural (like in this case 'kopekler', doesn't have the verb have to be conjugated as plural ('okunLAR'or something in those lines) ? In previous exercises I had done that with "Onlar gazete okunlar", for instance
Adding 3rd person plural to verbs is usually done to actions taken by humans, it's optional and doesn't change the meaning. That's why you wouldn't do it on this sentence. However I don't think most people know or follow this rule. (Even I learnt it from another mod here!) So you could do it in this sentence and it wouldn't be a big glaring error.
I have a question.. When we form accusative at the end of the word, if the rule is to look at the last vowel in the word, do we look at the last vowel in the singular form of the word or in the plural? For example, gazeteleri, is this i on the end because of e in the last vowel of gazete or of the suffix ler? It maybe would not have sence, because it would then be only two suffixes for accusative if the word is plural, but I just want to clear that.. :)
You look at the final vowel in the word regardless of the root. Basically, it is -i because of -ler :)
They have been trained to read. We don't have to believe it, just be used to it. Wohohooo!