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"Yargıcın kedisi var ama avukatın yok."
Translation:The judge has a cat but not the lawyer.
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The English translation kinda makes me laugh. It can be taken as "The judge owns a cat, but does not own the lawyer." If you wanted to say that in Turkish, would avukatın turn into avukatı?
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I think so. I also think you can take this sentence to mean "the judge has a cat but you do not have a lawyer", although I imagine that interpretation would be very unusual absent the "senin".
"Yargıcın kedisi var ama avukatın yok." Translation: The judge has a cat but not the lawyer.
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"The judge has a cat but the lawyer does not." Başka doğru İngilizce cevap.
Posessive endings.
Yargıç - Judge
Yargıcın - Judge's
Avukat - Lawyer
Avukatın - Lawyer's
Doesn't this also mean, "the judge has a cat, but you don't have a lawyer"?!
Not so much. First of all, yargıcı can't be director, it's "judge." For the rest of it, I think it's a trick of English more than anything.
In English, "There is" can mean something exists ("var" in Turkish). Like, there is a cat in the house - Evde bir kedi var.
Or, it can mean you're showing somebody something ("o" or "orada" or something like that). Like, look, there is a cat!
Var can never mean you are SHOWING something directly in the second sense. It just means you're talking about something's existing in the first sense, or somebody HAS something. So you could be super pedantic in your translation and say "The judge's cat exists but the lawyer's does not". (That's a dreadful translation. Don't do that.) What you're REALLY saying is, the judge has a cat but the lawyer does not.
But when you say "there is the director's cat" it sounds like you're SHOWING where something specific is, and var just doesn't do that. That would be more like "yöneticinin kedisi orada!" (the director's cat is there!) or just "o yöneticinin kedisi!" or just "yöneticinin kedisi!"
Impossible :) "The lawyer has not" doesn't make sense (or at least hasn't since probably the late 19th century). You must include an object for the verb "to have" when it means "to possess" and you must include either "do" (American English) or use the form "have got" (British English) when you negate it.
In ny opinion, the translation should be "The judge has a cat but the lawyer doesn't." That would be clear and it would test the intended objective: whether you understand the sentence, rather than letting you (me :-) get tricked into blindly following the Turkish sentence structure and forgetting proper English :-D
To indicate "There is..." you'd have to use "Orada/Şurada" so "There is the judge's cat" would be "Yargıcın kedisi orada" and so on.
yargıç-ın-ın would mean "of your/His/Her judge"
So the sentence would be "Your/His/Her judge has a cat but not the lawyer."
Ok i understand that "Yargıcın kedisi" is a "Belirtili tamlaması" , but why do we add the "-ın" suffix to "avukatın" ?
I put "The judge has cats but the lawyer doesn't." Is this not acceptable because "kedisi" is not plural? I thought that this could also imply plurality.
Exactly. It can only be interpreted as plural when it is a direct object (which it is not in Turkish in this sentence). You would have to say "kedileri" here to get the plural meaning.
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Could somebody explain the "yargıc+ın" and "kedi+si" structure please? I was puzzled by an explanation bellow that says
Yargıç - Judge Yargıcın - Judge's (possessive)
Yargıç means Judge. But when you have to say Judge's cat you say Yargıcın kedisi. Read more on genitive case in turkish or consult the tips and notes on the Duolingo website.
This kind of structure always has the definite articles. What about referring to a judge in general? "A judge has..." aside from the context, or am I missing some tips earlier.
Ceviri hatalı. "Yargıcın kedisi var ama avukatı yok" anlamı veriyor bu çeviri
I see the word cadi being used a lot. Is there a difference between cadi and yargiç
No we can't say that way. To make 3rd person genitive case in Turkish, you add the suffix "-in" or "-nin" to the possessor and the suffix "-i" or "-si" to the possessee. (The mentioned suffixes follow 4-way vowel harmony)
The way I see it is: The judge has a cat but the lawyer does not have a cat
Interesting! Could it be "kedisini"? Let's see what a native has to say.
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Is the letter v in turkish pronounced just like in English? In the slow audio recording, 'avukatin' sounds like 'ah-ooh-katin'.
