"İstanbul Türkiye'nin kuzey batısında."
Translation:Istanbul is in the northwest of Turkey.
In the west vs. in the west OF something:
Batı = west
Batıda = in the west (locative)
Batısı = the west (of something) (possessed ending)
Batısında = in the west (of something) (possessed ending + locative)
Türkiye'nin batısı = the west of Turkey
Turkiye'nin batısında = in the west of Turkey
Wait, wait. It is very confusing. The suffix -sı is added because it is possessed by Turkey or because it is a compound word? I've read before that in Turkish, the second word in a compound word must be added the 3rd person possessive suffix. I've found many of it such as "web sayfası". Web: web, sayfa: page, -sı 3rd person possessive suffix.
Please help meeee. Lütfen.
In fact both.
Türkiye(Turkey)-nin(genitive,corresponds 'of') batı(west)-s(buffer letter)-ı(third singular person possessive)
'northwest of Turkey' technically means that said norhwest(direction) belongs to Turkey. And Turkey corresponds to third singular person among person pronouns.
Ben(I)-im(genitive) ev(house)-im(first person singular poss)
Sen(you)-in(genitive) ev(house)-in(second person singular poss)
O(he/she/it)-n(buffer letter)-un(genitive) ev(house)-i(third person sin poss)
Kadın(woman)-ın(genitive) ev(house)-i(third person sin poss)
NOTE: I am not sure about if the parts i stated as 'buffer letters' are buffer letters. These things are debated.
With "in" or "to" and direction you need an article, because English grammar requires the article with the directional noun. If you skip the article, the direction is considered an attribute (don't know exactly which grammatical category it is, but definitely not a noun, more something like an adjective), thus changing the meaning.
Are you sure it was a small 'i'? Not a capital 'I' with a dot? Unlike the standard latin alphabet, which only has one 'i', where only the lowercase one has a dot, the Turkish alphabet has the 'long i' with dot, and the short 'I' without a dot, both in upper- and lowercase variants each.
what is "main lessons"? Turkish is a heavily agglutinating language, we cannot build sentences without suffixes to teach you the stem of the words before adding them suffixes. But we do try to teach suffixes first with some words you learned in the previous skills so that you learn the suffix and recognize the suffix when you see on other words. Otherwise the whole course would be just teaching words, without using them in a sentence
What I mean is that is the strengthen skills there are reference to a lot of directions "North, Northest etc as well as other voacb" and none of the very necessary and vital vocabulary were covered in the 6 "locative" main lessons blocks, which is ok. There are clearly uniform changes being made to the directions and other words though that are following some grammatical rules that I would not have thought to make or have not seen explained; like when, why and how to use batısında versus batında etc. I will collect each example as I experience it. It is like the strengthen skills is a completely different course, much more advanced, than the 6 locative lessons. It is great, there are more complex sentences with complex sentence structures. What i am saying is that in the previous tree branches, like possessive, I could finish all of the lessons, then do strengthen skills and feel like I had grasped and was mastering the topic. With Locative, Questions and numbers I feel like I have barely been given the tools in the lessons to navigate successfully in the strengthen skills.
Along these same lines, the other languages give the learner a "Words" tab which lists all of the words the student has learned at that point in his/her studies. It is very helpful as a reference. Will we see something like that for this language? Without any ability to reference a list of words and their varying declensions through the cases, I am having to get by on rote memorization, especially since, at the moment, I am not using many, if any, external sources to teach me this language. Duolingo , and the helpful posts from those instrumental for building its program for learning Turkish, are my only teachers at the moment.
That said, I, like multlingt, have been selecting the posts that reveal some mysteries for me, but it is rather a random way to learn a language and it would be nice to have a larger reference that one could access at any time.
The word list available for the other languages is a good start, but I can think of some other ways that might be even better (and ones I haven't seen in the other languages). For example, every once in a while, when I get something wrong, duolingo will pop up a brief note about why I got it wrong. It is helpful, but what would be even more helpful is if duolingo gave the student the option to return to the precise learning block of instruction and then gave the student the option of getting some drills that address the specific mistake/error the student is making. How great would that be!
For example, let's say a student is in the "Locative" section and makes a mistake with the use of the genitive case. Unless that student goes to the comments and someone has made a similar mistake and has asked a question that elicits an informative answer, the student may or may not know what mistake was made, why, and most especially, fully realize that he/she might be weak in a particular area of language development and is in need of some remedial training on it.
Along these same lines, if duolingo could ever write this program so that it gave students stats on what type of mistakes they are making and why (maybe on a separate tab like the one for "Words" in the other languages), with options to work more on specific areas, the ability to learn a language would not only be tailored to the individual, it would substantially increase the rate at which a student learns a language.
All suggestions aside, kudos to all of you who are responsible for creating this program and continue to address the questions students have. I am certain many people have put a lot of hard work into it and I don't mean to discount any of it by making some suggestions. I'm just trying to be helpful and help you make this the best program it can possibly be for all of us.
thanks for these, however, everything you suggested, including the word tab, are only up to the Duolingo developers and the course contributors/moderators have no influence on them. So you can/should post these elsewhere (e.g. general discussion as a suggestion)
We did provide a list of words and people already created a memrise course with it though
if there are words you haven't seen while "learning" but you see them only in "strengthening" - this is not something we have any influence on and it should be posted in troubleshooting (if you see batısında in learning batıda in strengthening is OK of course. I mean completely novel).
and as you learned possessives, you need to be able to combine it with locative. "batısında" simple means "on its west" , it is not a very different/novel construction