https://www.duolingo.com/carpelanam

Latin for Duolingo: Basics, Lesson 1

Salvete omnes! (Hello everyone!)

If you are one of the many interested in learning the ancient and beautiful Latin language but sad because it's not on Duolingo yet, here is a starter lesson for you. I've been teaching Latin to middle-school kids for 15 years now and I would love to see it added as well. I took the basic questions from Lesson 1 of the Italian tree and adapted them.

You'll have to imagine the images, bell sounds and any clever technical things that I can't figure out how to put in. I should probably add the disclaimer that I'm not doing this for Duolingo, just as an interested member of the community, and I'm not taking a position on how or when Latin should be added. If there's enough interest I could follow this up with other "lessons" in the future.

girl = puella

woman = femina

boy = puer

man = homo, vir (either is acceptable; homo has a more universal usage (human) as opposed to vir (biologically male human).

puer = the boy, a boy (no article adjectives in Latin)

unus puer = one boy

una femina = one woman (introducing the adjective unus,a,um to mean one, modifying a masculine or feminine noun)

illa puella = that girl, THE girl (again, Latin doesn't have article adjectives but may use demonstrative adjectives/pronouns for a similar purpose, adding emphasis -- this could easily be reserved for a more advanced lesson, though)

ille homo = that man, the man

ille vir = that man

Sum femina = I am a woman/I am the woman/I am woman ("hear me roar!" later, maybe in imperatives).

Ego femina sum. = I am a woman/ I am the woman. (introducing subject pronoun Ego = I and the flexible word order of Latin sentences).

Vir sum = I am a man/I am the man.

Ego sum puer (Sum puer) (Puer sum). = I am a boy.

Puella sum. = I am a girl.

Ille homo sum. = I am that human being/ man.

Sum illa femina = I am that woman.

Sum una puella (Una puella sum) (Ego una puella sum) (Ego sum una puella) (Ego sum puella una). = I am one girl.

As you can see if you made it this far, Latin has an incredibly flexible word order within sentences. It makes up for this flexibility with a very rigid and absolute requirement for the correct grammatical endings for nouns and verbs, as becomes very obvious within the first few days of study. This is precisely why I think it would be a good fit for Duolingo; turning grammar-learning mistakes into a game automatically makes it fun and would be a fantastic resource to add to any learning situation.

Thanks for reading and... Habeatis bonam fortunam!

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March 25, 2015

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https://www.duolingo.com/DrScottDukowitz

I just checked http://incubator.duolingo.com/apply and saw that Klingon was a course available for anybody willing to contribute to it's development but not Latin...
Latin would be fascinating.

March 26, 2015

https://www.duolingo.com/hellhounddd

I can't believe they have Dothraki and no Latin.

March 26, 2015

https://www.duolingo.com/JamesCrave3

They have High-Valerian not Dothraki.

November 1, 2017

https://www.duolingo.com/Berto29441

...and not Latin! (I understand: it's difficult!)

August 2, 2018

https://www.duolingo.com/SPAZ-UNICORN

They have Dothraki?!

January 18, 2016

https://www.duolingo.com/Huli-jing

I still wonder how fictious languages can be on Duolingo but neither latin or ancient greek in any language... I find it simply fascinating.

August 1, 2018

https://www.duolingo.com/jordan-gillard

I know this comment is 5 months old, but I wonder if Duolingo gets an incentive from HBO to add Dothraki or something. It seems so weird that they would go through the trouble to add it but not latin.

January 24, 2019

https://www.duolingo.com/izaakrach

Nah I think it's an interest thing. Plus you have to have enough experts willing to put in the time. You should be happy to know however that Latin is now in the cooker! It just went in a few weeks ago with an estimated release of about a year from now. That could go faster if the single person working on the project gets help. I wish I could help but sadly I can only wait and hope for a speedy completion.


Update.. I just checked again and there are now 17 contributors so that's good. They haven't updated the estimated time of completion though.

January 25, 2019

https://www.duolingo.com/letterseeker

It would be great if Duolingo would include Latin, especially as it is the foundation of all Latin based languages. All of which are offered by Duolingo. And I believe they also offer Greek so why not Latin. I wish I knew How to start a petition requesting them to include Latin.

January 25, 2019

https://www.duolingo.com/nfawkes

They don’t have Romanian, Romansh, Ladin, Friulian, Faetar, Sicilian, Sardinian, Corsican, Provençal, Catalan, Asturian, or Galician, among other offshoots of Latin. :)

But Romance languages are well represented on Duolingo.

May 5, 2019

https://www.duolingo.com/Jack_Boulet

They do have Romanian from English, but you're correct about the others. Although they MIGHT have a Sardinian course coming soon, or something. If you click on Add new Course and scroll down to where it says Contribute to a Course, you can find Sardinian listed there, I think.

May 7, 2019

https://www.duolingo.com/Berto29441

What do you mean by "fictious" ( fictitious) languages? All the living western languages have Latin inside (English some 70%).

August 2, 2018

https://www.duolingo.com/TevinJK

You know what they meant. stop being thick on purpose. They need Latin and ancient Greek. There's no excuse when they have fictional languages on here. by any language they arent refering to languages that have latin words in them. they mean for English speakers or for Spanish speakers. etc..

September 14, 2018

https://www.duolingo.com/Berto29441

...and "Qui habet aures audiendi, audiat!"

January 14, 2019

https://www.duolingo.com/Huli-jing

Valyrian or Klingon if I name them correctly, and yes, fictitious.

Else, English doesn't have (or only a very few amount) Latin inside, neither have the Romance languages, they are based on Latin or have been influenced by latin, which is different and doesn't make you able to speak or understand Latin.

August 4, 2018

https://www.duolingo.com/Chooch639215

I can't imagine what you're basing your comment on, but English vocabulary has a considerable amount of Latin (and Greek, and proto Germanic) in it. It comes either directly, or through Norman French. Not to mention that ProtoGerman absorbed some Latin because of trade, warfare and the Holy Roman Empire.

February 14, 2019

https://www.duolingo.com/Berto29441

You were speaking about these "languages"! I didn't understand. For "inside", it depends on what you understand for it. Surely you will not find cases and declinations (or the consecutio temporum)

August 5, 2018

https://www.duolingo.com/Huli-jing

Being a French native speaker but not knowing Latin at all, it's as difficult to understand Latin or Italian to me. What I would consider as "inside" is a 100% latin word, locution... like "et ceatera" or "curriculum vitae", for the rest I consider Latin to be a basis or an influence, like ancient Greek in a less extent.

August 5, 2018

https://www.duolingo.com/Berto29441

Vous trouverez ici quelques dizaines d'expressions latines utilisées en français: https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liste_de_locutions_latines

August 6, 2018

https://www.duolingo.com/CountErnstVolger

So, Latin is in the Incubator...

January 14, 2019

https://www.duolingo.com/Textbreaker

That’s great - will sign up for that. Such a beautiful language.

February 3, 2019

https://www.duolingo.com/letterseeker

Latin, would be fascinating and moreover it would increase their business because here in the EU it is a required language for students to learn. We need a petition, but how does one start an online petition. Unfortunately, I’m not compute savvy, at least not enough to start such a project. But that’s what’s needed.

January 25, 2019

https://www.duolingo.com/Eog1916

It is not a required language to learn!

January 25, 2019

https://www.duolingo.com/letterseeker

It is here in Bavaria, Germany!

January 25, 2019

https://www.duolingo.com/Berto29441

"required"... but is from LATIN requìrere = "seek to know, ask," from re-, = "repeatedly" and quaerere "ask for knowing" (different from "pétere", ask for having, from which the E. "petition"). All things very well known by people knowing English (required?), isn't it?

January 25, 2019

https://www.duolingo.com/ChrisTalja1

Which languages would you like to be added to the Duolingo Incubator in 2019?

www.strawpoll.me/16141213

February 19, 2019

https://www.duolingo.com/RandalOulton

That must be an older survey. Latin is already in the incubator....

February 19, 2019

https://www.duolingo.com/LaylaForrest

LATIN

April 18, 2019

https://www.duolingo.com/Aero02

Can't wait to learn it ! Such an interesting 'lingua'

Vir = Man / Virilité = Manhood (French)

Una = a, one (feminine) / same usage in Spanish

Ego = I / very similar meaning in English

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But the words order seems to be almost random.. Is there specific rules about it?

April 12, 2015

https://www.duolingo.com/RSvanKeure

Word order is very flexible in Latin, because of all the word endings, which specify how the words form a sentence. For example, "Thank you" is "gratias ago tibi", but the three words can be in any order. The main reason for any particular order is sometimes emphasis, like putting the most emphasized word first.

April 17, 2017

https://www.duolingo.com/Berto29441

What you wrote is very important: please enjoy a lingot. Often, the entire meaning is given only by the words' order. I would like to show this example: 1) Pater meus domi est" = my father is at home (plain form: more important word first: the father, 2) Meus pater domi est = My father (not yours) is at home, 3) Domi pater meus est" = My father is at home (as a reply for "where is your father?" or "it's not true that he is outside"), 4) Est pater meus domi = my father (no one else) is at home.

October 24, 2017

https://www.duolingo.com/meemsdutra

This was the most concise mini explanation and example of intent regarding order in latin. Berto, may you please enjoy a lingot! (And maybe consider teaming up with carpelanam, to bring these lessons live?)

August 16, 2018

https://www.duolingo.com/Berto29441

Thanks for the lingot! I am glad that my little note can clarify some Latin aspects. Latin is not an easy language, also for Italians. Time ago I proposed to consider, if not the language, a Latin sentence, able to make us think: perhaps a method to learn some Latin rules, but, more, some Latin thinking manner. Nothing followed. I could propose now, e.g. (again Latin...), a truth very often forgotten: "Nihil sine magno vita labore dedit mortalibus". Curious to know what does it mean?

August 16, 2018

https://www.duolingo.com/Berto29441

Very often I thought how an illiterate piscator (fisherman) could be able to understand what I do, but with a lot of exertion. It could be because of the particular rhythm given to the sentence or to the fact that all the vowels had two pronounces, short and long, with the length of the second double of the first one and - of course, because of the cases, that very often replaced the prepositions. Let's look at the sentence now: Nihil is the principal word, put in the first place, as I said: "Nothing", but can be a nominative or an accusative: a subject or a direct object. Sine means "without" and takes the ablative, magno, is the ablative of "magnus", great - E. magnificient (L. faciens = who makes), magnitude, magnify, magniloquence- (L. loquens = who speaks) - and, being an adj., we have to find a name in the same case: labore (from labor/laboris = labour, efford). Vita, with a short "a" is the nominative of life (with a long a - ā - is its ablative), so it should be the subject. Dedit is the present perfect of "dare" = give that takes the dative, so mortalibus is a dative (of another declination: L. has five declinations). If we put the sentence in "modern" sequence, we can write: Vita dedit nihil hominibus sine (eorum = their) magno labore: "Life gave nothing to mortals without their great effort. This was written by Oratius more than 2000 years ago, but it's still valid and poor who thinks that is possible to have and to be, "sine his magno labore!

August 16, 2018

https://www.duolingo.com/meemsdutra

With some low-level deduction, may I guess (no cheating)? Nihil= something near nihilist? absence of/ nothing, in conjunction with Vita= life Labore= lavoro= work motalibus= mortal/s p.? dedit= dato/dare? thus, to give? sine= (cloest i can think of right now) senza/su= with/out ?(doubtful) magno= magna? =great

SO: Nothing without great life work gives mortality.

How did I do?

August 16, 2018

https://www.duolingo.com/meemsdutra

Or Life works without great purpose, nothing gives mortality [this is the matrix]

Or maybe goog translate says it best: Life has given nothing to mortals without great

...great what?

August 16, 2018

https://www.duolingo.com/meemsdutra

Curious indeed, I jest, but did try first to figure it out. Don't judge too harshly please, this is basically my history with latin: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P0eVTeQi06c

August 16, 2018

https://www.duolingo.com/TevinJK

When people give lingot's like the way you just did it just reminds me of tip of the fedora.

September 14, 2018

https://www.duolingo.com/JacobBull1

The word order commonly taught, and the one that you'll finds most Latin writings in though is Subject / Object / Verb. e.g: I the man see

July 20, 2018

https://www.duolingo.com/AlbertoLeongomez

Salve, o Catherina, optima Latinitatis fautrix! Optimum consilium cepisti, cum linguam Latinam ad alias linguas in Duolingo praesentes addere decerneres, nam ut videtur, nonnulli sodales huius Interretialis loci eam pulcherrimam linguam discere volunt. Utinam mox et aulam Latinam virtualem hic habeamus. Interim, vale quam optime!

July 19, 2015

https://www.duolingo.com/suellen007

Yep! Would have said the same thing myself! (I wonder what it all means??)

November 30, 2018

https://www.duolingo.com/suellen007

Would definitely do Latin if it were offered! :))

December 9, 2018

https://www.duolingo.com/carpelanam

Benignus es! Tibi multas gratias ago.

July 19, 2015

https://www.duolingo.com/prky
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Best wishes...I hope your efforts are rewarded by Duolingo, and they adopt your lessons for a "formal" Duolingo Latin course! Thanks for making these lessons available!

March 2, 2016

https://www.duolingo.com/Twilightwave

i wish latin was a course

December 1, 2016

https://www.duolingo.com/Beatles-Musician

Also not to forget my draft of several skills here :)

https://www.duolingo.com/comment/4524448

March 26, 2015

https://www.duolingo.com/carpelanam

Bene fecisti! You did a great job... thanks for sharing that link!

March 26, 2015

https://www.duolingo.com/MessiasFer6

thank's, Duolingo needs a latin course.

December 28, 2017

https://www.duolingo.com/Eey91

This is so nice, it is a shame that I'm so used to the amazing Duolingo way of teaching progresively that it is hard for me to try to do it from other resources when starting. I hope the course will be added in the near future.

March 26, 2015

[deactivated user]

    Whoa. Totally awesome.

    June 4, 2015

    https://www.duolingo.com/Mnica519525

    Hi, thank you for posting these lessons ! I would like to see some excercises in the end of them so that we could practice a little bit for ourselves. Would you recommend any Latin workbook from Amazon while waiting for Duolingo to add it? -Grateful and anxious about Latín from Buenos Aires!

    December 1, 2017

    https://www.duolingo.com/CountErnstVolger

    LATIN IS IN THE INCUBATOR!

    January 14, 2019

    https://www.duolingo.com/Berto29441

    This is a goooood news!

    January 14, 2019

    https://www.duolingo.com/palmiramar_

    And there is one colaborator accepted! I wish carpelanam should be accepted too

    January 14, 2019

    https://www.duolingo.com/ijoni

    Gratias tibi ago! Sed, hoc verba scriptoriis, Anglicus est, non legitur.

    March 25, 2015

    https://www.duolingo.com/crush

    This was really great! If you have the time/energy, please continue with more :)

    March 26, 2015

    https://www.duolingo.com/suesieb

    Thank you so much for doing this. Every time they do a survey for languages for the incubator, I vote for Latin. It's been 40+ years since I took Latin in high school. I can't say that I enjoyed studying Latin, but it helped with English, and my attempts at learning Spanish and French. And, I still remember some of the basics.

    April 11, 2015

    https://www.duolingo.com/LordLankin

    I love the idea, and hope it won't get buried! I need this in my life!

    January 13, 2018

    https://www.duolingo.com/meemsdutra

    I've been waiting and watching for years. Here's hoping your work gets the learning "live action" treatment. Thank you. Does anyone know if there might be another way to further show our support and desire for Latin on the platform?

    August 16, 2018

    https://www.duolingo.com/RodrigoMer278549

    we want latin!

    December 21, 2018

    https://www.duolingo.com/Faeryeye

    Yes, please keep posting. I took Latin years ago in school, and I so want to refresh what I learned. Here's several lingots in thanks!

    March 25, 2015

    https://www.duolingo.com/MauriceDun

    This was great, I've been learning latin on and off for a few months. I would be interested in more lessons.

    March 26, 2015

    https://www.duolingo.com/spangineer

    Thanks; very interesting!

    March 26, 2015

    https://www.duolingo.com/btalbert

    I was under the impression that Latin word order is flexible, but not quite as willy-nilly, loosey-goosey as you imply. In prose, there are few sentences that do not conform to Subject-Object-Verb, i.e., "The dog eats the man" = "Dog man eats" = Canis virum edit. Poetry word order can be a little (sometimes MUCH) more fluid, usually for some kind of rhetorical or poetic effect.

    April 8, 2015

    https://www.duolingo.com/nahuatl1939

    DOMINUS ANCILLAM AMAT is not the same as ANCILLA DOMINUM AMAT. Those of you who have studied LATIN ( as I did many years ago), know that,as with all languages with declentions, you MUST know grammar.. If you don´t know it, it will be very difficult to learn the language. ( same for German,Russian,Greek, etc ) In LATIN, since there are NO articles, it is the ENDING of the words which indicates their grammatical function in the sentence. My exemple is very simple. DOMINUS ANCILLAM AMAT means THE MASTER LOVES THE SERVANT... ANCILLA DOMINUM AMAT means THE SERVANT LOVES THE MASTER. ) i can change the position of the words in the sentence and the meaning remains exactly the same because, in Latin, it is NOT the position of the words in the sentence which indicates their function, IT IS THEIR ENDING. I wish - though my mother tongue is French, that DUO would start a LATIN course. I would take it with pleasure. I am still reading CAESAR's DE BELLO CIVILE, VIRGIL's ENEIDA, CICERON 's ORATIO IN CATILINAM...etc.

    February 14, 2018

    https://www.duolingo.com/Berto29441

    You are perfectly right, but I would add that in Latin it's important also to have a look at the length of the vowels. This length (short, long, indicated - when indicated! - on the "a", for example, so: ă, ā ) can change the case, and so the meaning, and the pronounce. The beginning of the oration you cite (In Catilinam) is "Quo usque tandem abutere, Catilina, patientia nostra?". Now, patientia means patience and nostra means our... but it's not the subject of the sentence, it's an ablative, as in fact patientia should be written: "patientiā "... (The a is short in nominative and by the way, "abutere" is an alternative form for "abutēris", futur of abutor). (So the translation is " Till when, Catiline, will you abuse of our patience" (Abutor takes the ablative)?. This fact complicates not a little the translations!

    February 14, 2018

    https://www.duolingo.com/carpelanam

    You're right, the SOV word order is fairly conventional in Latin, with the glaring exception of poetry. But since English speakers are so conditioned to a specific word order and need to be trained repeatedly to observe the word endings rather than word order, most Latin teachers emphasize that difference by highlighting it. ❤❤❤❤❤-trapping a sentence by placing the direct object before the subject is the oldest trick in the Latin book, and most students fall for it repeatedly before wising up. It's a different way of thinking about sentence structure than we are used to.

    April 11, 2015

    https://www.duolingo.com/Eog1916

    Tús maith leath na hoibre!(ga) Bonum initium est dimidium laboris! (la)

    January 24, 2016

    https://www.duolingo.com/Liebert_

    Thanks a lot for sharing your knowledge with us. :)

    January 19, 2017

    https://www.duolingo.com/tylerdixon372

    Carpelanam why don't you try and contribute to a latin course on duolingo?

    January 23, 2017

    https://www.duolingo.com/AriannaJade

    You are wonderful! I've been trying to learn Latin since middle school and all I've had to use is Google Translate and songs by Enya and Magna Canta. Thank you so much for this!!

    April 28, 2017

    https://www.duolingo.com/Caleb83

    Yes, please add Latin! Duolingo

    December 30, 2018

    https://www.duolingo.com/m.tastic

    Nice :)

    March 25, 2015

    https://www.duolingo.com/carterf

    Okay, if it were up to me, I'd drop the pseudo-articles unus,-a,-um and ille,-la,-lud, considering they will never be found as articles in real Latin texts. If I remember correctly, their adaptation into articles by the Roman citizens outside the city was one of the reasons that it was called "Vulgar" Latin.

    March 25, 2015

    https://www.duolingo.com/carpelanam

    I agree, those qualifiers should probably be introduced later. That and many other decisions would be the call of the Latin team, if and when it is added to the incubator. But I'm a plebeian myself and have no problem with Vulgar Latin being offered to the masses. It was a common language for more than 2 millennia, and there are bound to be a lot of variations in usage over that time.

    March 26, 2015

    https://www.duolingo.com/blissperry

    I myself am very interested in learning Vulgar Latin, but I agree that it would be better to teach standard Classical Latin, that is, the language spoken around the Augustan Age. For most students, the goal of learning Latin is to read unabridged texts, and to do so, one needs a mastery of the Latin standard to the major authors such as Virgil, Ovid, and Catullus.

    March 26, 2015

    https://www.duolingo.com/DercioLichucha

    So what does this mean? That it's useless for me to learn this because it's not Classical Latin? Where then can I learn Classical Latin?

    July 28, 2015

    https://www.duolingo.com/carpelanam

    I am teaching standard Classical Latin in this (unofficial) course, adapted as close as I can get it to the Duolingo format. But like any teacher, I make choices in method that reflect my own training and style, and not everyone will agree with them. I do have confidence that you could learn Latin to the intermediate level with this course (presuming I am able to keep posting lessons regularly, or it eventually gets put into the incubator), though I don't think I would or could take it all the way to the advanced level of Virgil. For that, I would recommend a more traditional Latin course at university level, or the equivalent in independent study. Bonam fortunam!

    July 28, 2015

    https://www.duolingo.com/prky
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    I would be interested in Latin because I have long been interested in Gregorian chant, and studying the middle ages. For example, I would like to read the text of the Bayeux Tapestry.

    February 3, 2019

    https://www.duolingo.com/Berto29441

    For prky: Do you mean "Eadward(us) Rex. Ubi Harold dux Anglorum et sui milites equitant ad Bosham. Ecclesia. Hic Harold mare navigavit et velis vento plenis venit in terram Widonis comitis…" ?

    February 3, 2019

    https://www.duolingo.com/HikaRoto

    thank you so much for this course i will use it and enjoy it, thank you so much :)

    May 29, 2017

    https://www.duolingo.com/Berto29441

    Unus" is almost always a numeral: unus de magistratibus; unum et viginti annos (Cicero) or its meaning is "just one": uno verbo (with only one word),e pluribus unum (from many, one only)

    March 1, 2016

    https://www.duolingo.com/lolucl

    woman is actually mulier, -eris, not femina, -ae...

    March 26, 2015

    https://www.duolingo.com/carpelanam

    Both are acceptable for "woman," even if mulier was used more commonly in classical times... but femina has the advantage of being a 1st declension noun and therefore easier to tackle in the first lesson. For a fascinating, but NSFW scholarly discussion of the Indo-European roots of femina see this link: http://www.europaic.com/Etymology%20of%20L.%20femina%20and%20L.%20fellare.htm

    March 28, 2015

    https://www.duolingo.com/cherub721

    Thank you! Just from this short lesson I feel like I learned a lot... lately I've been learning more about indo-european languages and now I'm getting why Russian, like Latin, doesn't have articles but has "this" and "that" (apparently every language does, but not all have definite and indefinite articles), but I can clearly see how these developed into uno, una, un, il, and la as articles... very cool.

    BTW, does your username mean "seize wool"?

    April 11, 2015

    https://www.duolingo.com/Eog1916

    I think that Hans Ørberg’s 'Lingua Latina per se illustrata' is the best series of textbooks etc for learning Latin via the Natural Method. Students first learn grammar and vocabulary intuitively through extended contextual reading and an innovative system of marginal notes. It is the only textbook currently available that gives students the opportunity to learn Latin without resorting to translation, but allows them to think in the language. It is also the most popular text for teachers, at both the secondary and collegiate levels, who wish to incorporate conversational skills into their classroom practice.

    I hope Duolingo will follow Ørberg’s example!

    January 24, 2016

    https://www.duolingo.com/The_Fluffy1

    I just started latin this year, and I'm very happy that there is Latin on Duolingo :)

    October 23, 2017

    https://www.duolingo.com/Lukethe1st1

    Very cool! Love it! May this language find its way into official lessons on Duolingo! Keep fighting boys! Deus vult!

    November 30, 2018

    https://www.duolingo.com/Zaccarius

    Thank you! As an Italian teacher-to be, I totally support your efforts! Let's hope Duolingo could help us with Latin too!!

    December 9, 2018

    https://www.duolingo.com/Tasha889944

    I'd love to learn Latin I'm all into the greek and Roman stuff It will be amazing to learn Latin to lean vow the Roman's spoke

    December 29, 2018

    https://www.duolingo.com/RandalOulton

    I've just realized there are two seemingly similar Latin courses on Memrise based on these postings.

    1) https://www.memrise.com/course/748509/latin-for-duolingo/ by CarpeLanam 2) https://www.memrise.com/course/906792/carpelanams-duolingo-latin-sentences/ by zsocipuszmak

    I had initially found (2) and so have been working through that for the past 2 months.

    How do the two memrise courses relate, if at all?

    January 10, 2019

    https://www.duolingo.com/zsocipuszmak

    CarpeLanam's own Memrise course (1) focuses on the vocabulary used in the example sentences, and the one I created (2) contains the sentences themselves. (The lessons are always first posted here in the Duolingo forum by CarpeLanam, I just copy them into the Memrise course and add some alternative word order solutions, so that we can actively practice them in a Duolingo-like manner there.)

    January 10, 2019

    https://www.duolingo.com/RandalOulton

    Thanks, soci! I think I will stick with (2) full sentences. Cheers!

    January 14, 2019

    https://www.duolingo.com/junemacock

    Fascinating. Hope Duolingo decides to go ahead with Latin. A great help with other popular languages

    January 16, 2019

    https://www.duolingo.com/pabos95

    Hey it's that pronunciation of latin is not known?

    April 8, 2015

    https://www.duolingo.com/Berto29441

    Latin lasted around 2000 years... Of course the pronunciation changed throughout the centuries. Today we distinguish the pronunciation of the first centuries (e.g. C = always to K) from the "Catholic Latin". So from "Caesar", derived in the North of Europe "Kaiser" and "Czar" and in the Latins countries "César" and "Cesare"

    January 19, 2017

    https://www.duolingo.com/RSvanKeure

    Good summary. We often call the "Catholic Latin" pronunciation "Ecclesiastical Latin" pronunciation, or Italian pronunciation. This is generally used when singing Latin. Even so, there are variations from one country to another--in the United States people often don't trill the "r" sound.

    And then there's the English pronunciation, often used in science, including the names of constellations: Ursa Major, Canis Minor. The British universities used the English pronunciation for a long time, evolving as the pronunciation of English itself changed, such as with the Great Vowel Shift (e.g., "ah" to "ay") before the time of Shakespeare.

    April 17, 2017

    https://www.duolingo.com/AwkwardCactus

    I took about 5 years of latin (4 in HS, one year in middle school) I don't remember much, but I do remember those endings were the hardest. They would just throw words around "randomly" and translating it was always bleh. It would be fun to study it again though :)

    April 11, 2015

    https://www.duolingo.com/lastnote

    I've always think puella is nice and cute sounding word. I never thought it was Latin until now. The Anime title Puella Magi Madoka Magica makes a lot of sense now as it means Magical Girl Madoka Magica.

    October 9, 2015

    https://www.duolingo.com/CaeciliusEst

    The cutest Latin word I've ever seen is 'pipio/pipiare/pipiavi/pipiatus' and it means 'to chirp.' I found it first in Catullus's work and it's just so adorable.

    May 25, 2017

    https://www.duolingo.com/Berto29441

    I agree. This is in the 3rd Carmen of Catullus, that employs the less common "pipilare", instead of "pipiare":

    "Lugete o Veneres Cupidinesque et quantum est hominum venustiorum. passer mortuus est meae puellae. passer deliciae meae puellae. quem plus illa oculis suis amabat. nam mellitus erat suamque norat ipsam tam bene quam puella matrem. nec sese a gremio illius movebat sed circumsiliens modo huc modo illuc ad solam dominam usque pipilabat..."

    May 26, 2017

    https://www.duolingo.com/AvaFerengue4
    November 4, 2015

    https://www.duolingo.com/carpelanam

    I still am learning my way around Memrise, but I did revise the first lesson a bit. I hope it makes it easier. Vir and homo are used interchangeably, but vir has more of a definitely masculine meaning, whereas homo means man in the sense of human being.

    November 6, 2015

    https://www.duolingo.com/RSvanKeure

    Might be good to use just one word, like "vir", so that people don't get confused about the two different meanings.

    April 17, 2017

    https://www.duolingo.com/OscarCante3

    ola

    December 15, 2016

    https://www.duolingo.com/Csz_Ralf

    when will we get into pronunciation?

    January 12, 2017

    https://www.duolingo.com/AriannaJade

    The pronunciation for Latin is pretty much exactly the same as Italian, as the latter came directly from the former. When in doubt, try looking up the word on any dictionary or translator site that has pronunciation help.

    April 28, 2017

    https://www.duolingo.com/CaspiaTaschia

    is the pronoun 'ego' in ancient Latin as well as modern?

    November 8, 2017

    https://www.duolingo.com/Berto29441

    Surely: Ego, for I, comes from the old Greek εγώ (ego) and today survives also in the modern languages (in English, e.g., in egoism, egocentric, egotism, egomania...)

    November 8, 2017

    https://www.duolingo.com/d89kr

    I think there is a mistake on Memrise. You have “bracchium”. Shouldn’t it be “brachium”?

    November 21, 2017

    https://www.duolingo.com/carpelanam

    Is this in the "corpus humanum" lesson? I find "bracchium" is considered more correct than "brachium" in the sources I checked. I listed the -cc- version in the Memrise course, but the other should be an acceptable alternate, although it is not visible.

    November 21, 2017

    https://www.duolingo.com/Berto29441

    Both forms exist, but it's the second used mostly: "brachio scutum manu emittere (Caesar); "brachia collo dare" (to hug) (Virgilius); "brachia saltantis" (Ovidius) "levi brachia agere" (to do superficially)(Cicero). It was the G. βραχίων

    November 22, 2017

    https://www.duolingo.com/danryan0

    Thanks for the Latin course in Memrise.Really enjoying it.

    June 6, 2018

    https://www.duolingo.com/ike8961

    Wow latin is ez

    January 16, 2018

    https://www.duolingo.com/Deficere2

    I'm a composer. I'd like to be able to write in Latin for choir, haha

    June 6, 2018

    https://www.duolingo.com/Emil394438

    I agree! I would definitely learn it.

    June 14, 2018

    https://www.duolingo.com/Djanggo1

    Thank you!

    July 26, 2018

    https://www.duolingo.com/izaakrach

    Usually the problem with starting a new course is the lack of people willing to do it. I assume one of you has already volunteered right?

    July 28, 2018

    https://www.duolingo.com/TylerHandt

    Gratias vobis conservis

    September 11, 2018

    https://www.duolingo.com/Gjvillegas25

    If we were to add Latin, which pronunciation would we use? Classical or Ecclesiastical? I personally prefer Ecclesiastical but understand that both have their advantages and disadvantages.

    November 11, 2018

    https://www.duolingo.com/carpelanam

    I think this is not as big a decision as all that. Essentially, the pronunciation is the accent that the computer-generated voice will have. We recognize and adapt to variations in regional accent in our native languages without much trouble, and spoken Latin picks up the regional accent of wherever its speakers are from. The biggest differences in pronunciation between Classical and Ecclesiastical are the sounds for V, AE, C-before-I/E. No one is a native speaker of Latin, but the Classical pronunciation comes closest to the ancient sounds, we think. So it should probably be chosen. I still prefer the Ecclesiastical because of my background in choral singing; I just think it is beautiful. But when speaking Latin my own pronunciation is a mash-up of Classical, Ecclesiastical, and Anglicized. I just hope we get to the point on Duolingo where this becomes a real question! At the moment, I can only offer written, non-interactive lessons.

    November 12, 2018

    https://www.duolingo.com/V2Gx4

    There is somebody who knows Latin? Can you make Latin language course for duolingo community? Because a lot of people want to learn this ancient language. Teaching people is the greatest good.

    December 31, 2018

    https://www.duolingo.com/FedoraGod

    Does the ll in Latin make the same sound as ll (eyye) in Spanish?

    January 25, 2019

    https://www.duolingo.com/Berto29441

    Do you mean the double "elle" ? If yes it was pronounced as two "elle" (e.g.: il - le/ il-la/il-lud = this, from which the I. definitive article il, la, lo, li, and consequently the F. ones)

    January 25, 2019

    https://www.duolingo.com/prky
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    "illa" and "ille". Do you pronounce these with a "y" as in French, or or "L" as in English?

    February 3, 2019

    https://www.duolingo.com/Berto29441

    As in the English "làborum" (which is L.), but with a double "l": "il - le", "il -la", "il - lud" (for the neuter)

    February 3, 2019

    https://www.duolingo.com/RandalOulton

    I found this piece really interesting; it certainly supports the Duolingo style approach to Latin that CarpeLanam takes:

    https://eidolon.pub/why-students-of-color-dont-take-latin-4ddee3144934

    February 28, 2019

    https://www.duolingo.com/Sandy_bell1

    I study Latin in school and still remember some.

    March 9, 2019

    https://www.duolingo.com/SarahZhang777

    From 2019 and I think Latin is still not available for English speakers...smh

    April 6, 2019

    https://www.duolingo.com/Eog1916

    Thanks..but I think that lingua Latina per sé Illustrate is the way forward in learning languages!

    December 31, 2018

    https://www.duolingo.com/V2Gx4

    exactly yes but there is no pronounciation of all this sentence and words. How can we solve this issue?

    January 1, 2019

    https://www.duolingo.com/RandalOulton

    I've studied 9 languages in my time at all educational levels. I'm rocking the Duolingo method now. They just need to bring to the app the same way to click and get the grammatical structure understanding, and discussion, as you can get with the web version (it doesn't even need to be in the app, even just a link that opens up a web browser on the iPad....)

    January 16, 2019

    https://www.duolingo.com/Elena_Connolly13

    Woowoohalabalo

    November 30, 2018

    https://www.duolingo.com/Elena_Connolly13

    Woowoohalaboloo

    November 30, 2018
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