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"Se" usage really needs its own lessons

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I have spent the last few days, reading information from the user MissSpell's highly informative response at the following link: https://www.duolingo.com/comment/1037166

In that link (scroll down to see her comment), MissSpell provides a plethora of links to a better understanding of the Spanish use of "se." I'm at level 15 right now, and only have like 3 or 4 lessons until completion of my Spanish tree. Up until now, I've gotten all kinds of se's out of nowhere, that I just assumed I would, at some point, understand their usage.

However, without specifically learning about the "Impersonal, Passive, and Accidental" usages of "se," I do not see how I could learn how they are appropriately used in Spanish sentences, as a native English speaker.

So basically, overall, I'm asking for a full, probably 10 component lesson-circle on the usage of "se" - including its use with reflexives verbs, and its use in Impersonal, Passive, and "Accidental" type sentences.

3 years ago

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https://www.duolingo.com/vcel10
vcel10
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The same thing can be said for si, que and ya

3 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/yungjim
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Extra lessons for those would be great.

3 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Carldean21

These could be lessons opened up with lingots in between some of the check points. Duo should do this for sure.

3 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Lofty_Vagary
Lofty_Vagary
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Ya means already, but can be moved around in sentence a lot, and is still unclear to me where is supposed to go, so I can agree on that.

Sí means yes, while si without the accent means "if," but the confusion for this and "que," I think also means more lessons should be made. Basically, I agree. Really am thankful for this completely free program thus far though - I switched to this from Rosetta Stone.

3 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/vcel10
vcel10
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Look at the many example sentences of those three words in SpanishDict.com It is so much more than just yes/if, already, that, which.

@Olimo (a moderator) posted this reply to the post Advanced Duolingo Courses?

I don't think this is going to happen soon. Duolingo aims at teaching more languages for free and in a casual way. It is too hard a mission to teach that many languages at a really advanced level. This would require different kinds of tasks like advanced grammar exercises, writing and speaking tasks corrected by fluent or native speakers. There are other sites which specialize on that.

3 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/mandyturtle

just wanted to point out there are more meanings than already for ya. ya me voy- I'm going now. ya lo hice- I already did it. ya no fumo- I no longer smoke.

3 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/WackyJack

It's time for a bit of tree expansion, methinks. Time to sprinkle some fertilizer on the ol' roots.

3 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Talca
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Yeah, baby. Broken record: I have requested for two years a branch on "Verbs that behave like gustar" i.e. Indirect object + verb + subject.

3 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Denfisksson

Se ve que no es sencillo ;P

An extra unit for its usage wouldn't harm anybody.

3 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Nadya222
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"Se ve que no es sencillo".... y se sabe que tienes razón!

3 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/CattleRustler

Studying topics like Object Pronouns and Reflexive Verbs will start to clarify the mysterious "se".

3 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/AnaArias19
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This is probably a good summary of the uses of "se" in Spanish: http://www.materialesdelengua.org/LENGUA/morfologia/se/se.htm As a Spanish-speaker I must say that it is difficult for me to explain how and why it is used, and you might even find local differences in use. Hope it helps.

3 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Cruise2525

When you use "me" in front of a verb, if refers to myself. "Te" refers to yourself. "Se" refers to himself, herself, or oneself. The others are the plurals. This is what I was taught for both Spanish and French. In French, "se" can also mean with each other.

3 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/AnaArias19
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It's basically that. But "se" is also the form that "le" (to him) takes before "lo/la", as in "se lo dije" (=I told him/her/them), and it is also used in a very common type of passive called "pasiva refleja" : "se dice que..." So, if you decide to get into it, this is probably one of the most difficult aspects of Spanish, at least in comparison with English.

3 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/tomigaoka

10 component lesson is not enough to understand how "se" is used. You have to study this through formal classes and keep on reading news articles and go out there converse with natives and observe them how they use it.

duolingo + formal classes + converse = Success!

I said this because its one of the most flexible word in Spanish, so many uses that until now i get confuse from time to time why and where to use it. It may also depends on the verb.

3 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/MissSpell
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I wholeheartedly agree! (I might be biased) Se should have its own skill with at least 10 lessons. I have to add, Calamitouslntent, it's reassuring that I'm not the only one who finds this word to be so insurmountable.

3 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/wynrich
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I'd love to see "se" exercises put together for a lesson. In the meantime, here's a nice video about the many uses of "se": https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-BKpNVyERHs

3 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/MissSpell
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I like how professor Jason differentiates between the passive se and impersonal se.

3 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/amanbond007

truely

3 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/TerryHMay

This site has some good lessons on the use of que in Spanish sentence structure, hacer as indication of a past event, and much more. Good learning folks. http://www.studyspanish.com/

3 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/DCIvanhoe
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They really need to hammer por/para differences, and usage of reflexive verbs in various forms, such as the infinitive.

3 years ago