It's THE lemon? Is it the last lemon on earth or something?
Translation is about taking in the sentence as a whole, and making sense of it. Getting docked because I hear the EVERY SINGLE TIME as "it is a lemon" is starting to really, really REALLY get on my nerves.
First no one, ever, in the history of the whole world, has ever said "It's THE lemon." Ever.
Oh, and while I'm at it, the speed tests are ridiculous. Am I trying to learn Spanish, or am I taking a typing class?!?
First off: That was an amazing rant. No seriously, no sarcasm here. I loved it. I mean, I totally feel the same way, but I take it with humour, I guess.
The horse eats bread? I'm pretty sure that would kill it. The girls eat sugar? Diabetes my friends, diabetes.
But I think what they are trying for here is to just get you used to using your vocabulary which, in the beginning, is very limited. So you have to combine the few words we know in bizarre combinations. And second, I think they're trying to get us to tell the difference between un and el/la, which later is undoubtedly very important, but right now is just absurd.
Totally agree about the speed tests. If they want to test on speed, give a multiple choice.
All that being said...I still have NO idea if limon = lime or if limon = lemon. Its too confusing, and seems unimportant but I cook and there is a big difference...
We aim to please. Thank you for taking in the spirit it was written too.
I hear what you are saying, but I think they should give us sentences where it actually matters. I agree on the speed tests- is how fast I can coax the right accent out of my keyboard a test of my language abilities?
What's worse is it trains you to blow through as fast as you can- so when you do make a mistake, you don't have time to read the correction. Nor does it review your mistakes with you in the end, which would be super helpful.
I am getting a lot more out of this, though, then I did out of a couple of classes (I got an A in both) though. They just have some rough edges to fix up.
Plus, I can't bring myself to move on until I get every chapter done perfectly, so I am the source of a lot of my own frustration.
When you are starting out what they teach you doesn't really have to be important. They are trying to teach you the two most important things to start, vocabulary and grammar. As you go along you will probably, hopefully supplement your Duolingo lessons by reading, listening to, and watching things in Spanish. You will pick up a lot of things naturally as you go just like you did with English.
I find the exercises where you translate the webpages to be the "relevant" translations, so I view these beginning ones as just humorous.
Later on though, you do get to start doing more translation, and they keep bringing in old vocab. Which is troublesome for me, because I'm on/off with the practice due to schedule issues, so I can't get a steady flow going. But yea, I'm still retaining more than my two spanish classes in high school (got As and Bs lol).
I have a friend like you, lol, where its all got to be perfect. Me, as long as I passed its good 'nuff, because I know they're going to keep using those words in the coming exercises, and I already have a grip on the grammar and conjugation of 'ar' verbs (I guess I did retain something). Although I will say my 'good nuff' attitude doesn't always serve me well...
I also loved the ranting :-) And I also wondered about the "the" but down are some nice examples for that. Maybe people at Duo can use them to fix the edges.
But nothing about horses eating bread, the neighbour horses do that on a regular basis and it even isn't fresh... Yesterday I felt killed by Duo, that was much worse. So much death, I shouldn't have started the English course, I think it's good enough for easy talking.
Captain a-month-after-its-relevant here. The difference between lemon and lime just depends on where you are. Some places "limon" is lemon, and "limon verde" is lime. Some places, like Peru, use "Lima" to reference a small lime similar to key limes, but not ALL limes. And then other times limon means both. My Peruvian mom always used a "limon" to cook. Those were limes. If she ever asked for a limon and I handed her a lemon she would have been outraged that I would even suggest it.
Lima is a specific kind of lime, like a key lime. It's quite small and super tart. At least that's the case in Peru. It really just depends on where you are. I think it's safe in any country to say "limon" for lemon and "limon verde" for lime to avoid any confusion. It really is interchangeable in a lot of Latin American countries. Furthermore, sometimes "lima" is in reference to lemons! Limas dulces. http://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lima_(fruta) Mire en el parte de "variedades".
The auto voice does make it hard sometimes, but I find slowing it down helps distinguish if its el or un etc... As for why its "the" lemon: El Limon = The Lemon Un Limon = A lemon Saying it is "the lemon" is a little absurd though, but I guess for simple beginner sentences you have to throw away some sense (the girls eat sugar...really?)
1) "It's the lemon" is not an absurd sentence. "Which fruit has gone bad in the bowl?" "What is making this soup so sour?" "What is making the cuts on my hand burn?" etc etc etc
2) English distinguishes between "lemons" and "limes" but Spanish does not. My Spanish speaking ex-boyfriend was never able to understand the differences between limes and lemon and used "limón" interchangeably to refer to either citrus fruit. In his mind they're different colored versions of the same fruit, and having two separate words would be a bit like referring to a Granny Smith and a Honeycrisp as two separate forms of fruit.
Adolfo Granados:As I know, At the north side of South America the lemon (limón) is a little round acid fruit generaly used green for adds taste to salads an fish. Lime (lima) is bigger than lemon and is as big as an orange fruit. La expresión "Es el limon" can be used in differents ways in Spanish, por ejemplo:Es el limón una fruta ácida que no solo es usada para darle mas sabor a diferentes platos sino para fines medicinales.No ocurre lo mismo con "la lima" que es de mayor tamaño,no es tan ácida y tiene diferentes funciones.