Pronunciation of the "ragazza"
Hello all, I guess that the pronunciation of the word "la ragazza" in this lesson is incorrect, isn't it?
I agree that it is kinda bad. Anyways, In general, zz in Italian is pronounced tz, as in pizza.
I think the computer voice is just funky period. I had the same experience with Duolingo Spanish... The inflection, i.e. pitch and accent, sounds fine, but "zz" is coming through as "tt" for example and that's no matter what computer I use.
La pronuncia non è proprio perfetta, ma è molto simile alla pronuncia vera.
Si è simile, ma in Italia nessuno che parli un italiano corretto pronuncia la doppia z in quel modo (Yes, it's similar, but in Italy nobody pronounces the double z that way)
Yeah. I mean its not perfect but its close enough that it really doesnt matter.
I lived in Italy for three years and it is pronounced ra-ga-tsa. The "z" makes the "ts" sound and when you have double consents you drag the sound out. Italians speak with a a lot of mouth and tounge movement. Good luck.
There was one moment I thought the machine came from Venice. La ragazza with a pronunciation without the -t- sound.
sounds more like ragatta to me here, but the link in the discussion is clearly ragatza or ragasza (milan v. naples?). Could be my ear trying to adjust.
It doesn't sound incorrect to me. The zz in "ragazza" sounds like the ts in "cats" (or like a German Z if you happen to speak German).
It sounds like Regazza, which is making me spell it incorrectly pretty much every time without realising D:
Wataya, thanks for your comment. I'm not a native speaker either, but when listening to the word I hear only "raga" without "-zza"! Perhaps it's pronounced too sillent.
OK, I haven't encountered this version, yet. Maybe in your case there were some network issues or the like.
Yes, it's badly pronounced. The sample provided by wataya is dead on, though.
there is a great deal of regional variation in pronunciation of Italian. Most would say "ragatsa", but some pronounce "ragaza", and either would be understandable to most Italians.
I totally agree. It's as if she is lisping that z sound. Ragazza is the same sound as pizza - the same hard z sound.
Why are the pictures AND the translations given as choices after the English word (Level 1) is given? This is crazy. Of course I know that a picture of a woman is a woman. This can't be what the game is about!
I have been keeping a second tab open on google Translate for comparison sometimes hearing two voices saying the same word makes it a little clearer; also i generally noticed that their pronunciations were close in spanish so I presume it's the same for their other languages as well:
Thank you all. I have spoken basic Italian for years and when I heard the pronunciation of ragazza..., I thought .... what? have I been pronouncing this word wrong all these years. It is validating to see that other people questioned the pronunciation as well. I questioned a couple of other words also...but now I know that maybe I am not wrong..so... I plan to continue using this website and see if I can progress to advanced beginner or intermediate speaker.
I've been hearing "Raga"... But I guees the sound of zz in Italian is the same as zz in Pizza.. Pronounced as /"tz"/: /"Pitza"/ and /"Ragatza"/