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"Blue" isn't a translation of "Sultan Ahmet" at all. This is another example of different cultures assigning completely different names to the same landmark with neither side being very aware of what the other calls it. Another example is what our guidebooks call the "Sphinx of Giza" whereas the locals only know it as "Abu al-Hawl (Father of Terror)," for reasons I can only guess at. ;-)
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is it possible to say "Sultan Ahmet'in camisi"? is the "si" of camisi is a possesive suffix?
It is a possessive suffix but it isn't a possessive phrase. This mosque doesn't belong to Sultan Ahmet, it is just named after him. This is simply a noun compound :)
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does that mean that in any case when we mention the place's name we should use the possessive suffix with the place ?
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additional note, a mescit is a prayer room (I think it is also a mosque in Arabic)
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"mescit mosque مسجد" can be any place to pray for everyday use. while "cami جامع" is specially for the weekly gathering for Friday's prayer and any major religious events.
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OK, not in Turkish :) So I wanted to make it clear. mescits are for example in a shopping mall, in a company etc. A small room where people can pray if they want.
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yes it's true , but it pronounce as "d" at the end of the word , "mescıd" ( i mean in Arabic ) :)
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Definitely. It is also very common in Arabic to say "المسجد الجامع" that means "The collecting Mosque" or in Turkish just "Cami" which is derived from Arabic : Pronounced the same way [jamæ] . :)
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no, Hagia Sophia was once a church, then a mosque and now it is a museum. The blue mosque is a big and nice mosque next to it.
Why are we supposed to write "Blue Mosque" instead of "Sultan Ahmet's mosque" or "the mosque of Sultan Ahmet"? These corrections are very frustrating. Literal translations should be accepted as well, if they make sense.
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"Sultan Ahmet mosque" is already an accepted answer. "Sultan Ahmet's mosque" and "the mosque of Sultan Ahmet" simply sound wrong to me
When two nouns are together, the second one needs to have the third person possessive suffix.
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Why does the article about the Blue Mosque is named "Sultan Ahmed camii", without the S, in Wikipedia? Did i miss a detail in the grammar?
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this is an exceptional usage, only for a few Arabic- origined words like cami and bayi. You don't really have to learn it :) using "camisi" is now much more common than "camii"
I am guessing you mean to say "huge." This would not be a god translation for two reasons. 1) Things normally aren't "very huge" in English. Huge already implies that it is exceptionally large. 2) Huge is kocaman in Turkish.
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If I remember correctly, the small prayer rooms found in offices, many hotels, as well as truck stops and airports are "musalla," in Arabic, while a larger facility for a neighborhood a short walk from one's house is a "masjid," leaving "jami'at" (plural of "jami'ah") as the big places where a whole town or a section of a larger city goes for jumu'ah prayers (note the common root J-M-'A). However in Arabic at least, all these entities may be called "masjid" (pl masaajid), where people "jalasa" (bow down) before Allah. "Mosque" appears to be some European's mishearing of "masjid."
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It is crazy! How man who just learn Turkish and don't know about Istanbul can translate Sultan Ahmet to Blue Mosque??
That's how it's called in English. Turks do it too. Fontana di Trevi is a famous fountain in Rome, but we call it Aşk Çeşmesi. It's not even a translation. A totally different name.
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Just to add to that, Sultan Ahmet Mosque is also accepted by Duo :-)
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Again, "Sultan Ahmet Mosque" is also accepted. Nobody will be marked incorrect for not knowing this mosque goes by two names. But they may learn about it in the process :-)
