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- "Der Mann mag keine Gruppen."
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Guys take a look into this (I know, it's a 4 year comment, but people still having questions): https://resources.german.lsa.umich.edu/grammatik/nicht/
Duo isn't great when it comes to clear grammar rules.
Maybe the website has been edited since you posted this, but it clearly states now that "kein" is used to negate when the noun is not preceded by any article, as in "Gruppen". If the sentence said, "I do not like the groups", then it would be, "Ich mag die Gruppen nicht".
Duo said, "any" was incorrect, was "Er/Sie/ Es" wrong? "The man doesn't like "any" groups"
It's more correct, I would say. There's a difference between "does not like any groups" and "does not like groups".
If the verb is being negated here, shouldn't we say "Der Mann mag Gruppen nicht"?
When we say "Der Mann mag keine Gruppen" wouldn't be a better a translation if we put it as "The man doesn't like any groups"?
no, you just can't use "ein*" for plural (because it means "one" of course). You can have not (one or several).
"Frau" is interchangeable between "woman" and "wife" - can "Mann" also mean husband? - e.g. would "The husband does not like groups" <-- even though sentence is a little weird. Danke!
Yes, Mann can also mean husband. Usually you would have enough context to determine the appropriate translation. If there is no context I guess as a rule of thumb I'd suggest translating Mann with a possessive determiner to husband while a definite or indefinite article tends to be a man.
Yes, in spoken German. But apparently it is more correct to use der Ehemann in written German.
After listening to it several times in slo-mo, I consistently heard "koppen."
Listening to the forvo.com pronunciation, I hear "kruppen"
Thing is, I thought the German 'g' only changed from an English 'hard-g' to 'k' sound when at the end of a word (e.g., genug --> 'genuk', not 'kenuk')
Any guidance? Do I just need more ear-training?
I thought he said Gropen or Grotten. Neither sounded very polite to an English ear.
tip for pronunciation: use forvo.com, where native speakers record themselves saying words https://forvo.com/word/gruppen/#de
Can it also be "the man does not like groups"?
from where the "any" comes?
I have this question also - I got this wrong, but don't understand where the "any" comes from in the correction "the man does not like any group"
The crowd is better translated as die Menschenmasse or die Menschenmenge. IMO Gruppen would be interpreted as being in a context of group projects for school etc.
while goup(s) is the more precise/accurate translation of gruppe(n)... with menschenmasse/etc. a direct translation for crowd... however, i feel like for just contextual, cultural norm usage consensus, its much more common to hear U.S. english speakers to say crowd to refer to the thought of multiple people, even small amounts (why we say 2's company, 3's a crowd). "groups" sounds weird especially since it connotes a type OF something, and it isnt implicit just to refer to people. it could be groups of whatever. so while crowd isnt a literal translation, figuratively it SHOULD be correct as a possibility (only the english version). it sounds weird here to end w/ the word group bceause theres almost always either a more specific word in english for types or sizes of group (gang, swarm, grabble, pack, band, herd, school, gaggle, mob, lot, flock, gathering, collection, assembly, entourage, clique, pair, CROWD) or it is followed with "---OF [insert type specifier]" 'he doesn't like groups' isnt flawed... it just isnt what i hear people here say.
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Can Gruppen in German be understood as „music groups“. If yes, then the sentence makes more sense.
Can anyone explain why "The man doesn't like any groups" is incorrect? Bitte?
Put "The husband doesn't like groups." and was marked wrong. Their error or mine?
as far as i can tell, mann translates as husband only in the context of 'my man' mein Mann... so your error as the sentence uses Der Mann or the man. Of course it is the same with Frau... die Frau= the woman, meine Frau= my wife. der Mann= the man, mein Mann= my husband.
Because that isn't proper English. "The man" is singular, therefore you would use "doesn't" instead of "don't" (the third person singular form of "do" is "does")
A bit weird don't you think? Maybe you don't like crowds but why groups?
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One might not like groups due to the inherent hierarchical structure found within groups.
How should we recognize to make a negative sentence using nicht (negative verb) or kein/e (negative noun)?
